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post Mar 8 2011, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 8 2011, 10:53 PM)
Does it affect if I ate rice for lunch? Maybe stronger effect laugh.gif

I've seen power cord tuning by laying power cables on pieces of wooden blocks. And these wooden blocks or tuning products, cost a bomb. If think you can feel the difference, be prepared for huge financial expenses. laugh.gif
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Resonance, i still on searching the theories of that.
This one you should believe it, no need to get the products, those are making business, a tissue roll or anything that can space up will do.

You should try it on interconnect and speaker cable, easier to hear the difference. At 1st i was thought it was a troll like you, laugh at those audiophiles on maximum placebo, until i found out myself, i took back my words.
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post Mar 9 2011, 01:18 AM

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Interesting....faraday cage is use to block rfi efficiently.

but why i enter a building, i get low to no signal on my phone. The building just on concrete wall, no faraday cage there.
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post Mar 9 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 9 2011, 06:35 AM)
What is inside the concrete wall? tongue.gif
But no earth yet right? hmm.gif
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post Mar 9 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Mar 9 2011, 08:47 AM)
they extend towards the ground. It is grounded.

All buildings must have ground anyway.

EDIT: Also, do read this for further info laugh.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_(electromagnetism)
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Hmm...thanks for the info.


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QUOTE(kww @ Mar 9 2011, 12:09 PM)
That is attenuation, wiki for it and you will know why the phone signal drop.
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There is some article about mass damping by using sand bag, but it work more on CD player where you have vibration. I personally didn't try it yet but looking at the different beans fill-up the amp or power inlet really  blink.gif

People say cable is voodoo, I think this is more voodoo. But if you can hear it why not?
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Those damping are working but the theory still can't find it. I'm still finding what makes that ASI resonator so special too...little heavy bowl, cost like mad, had good effects.

Cable is not voodoo at all, if it is, why the people designing coaxial, cat5e cables so on? It is main to reduce signal loss in the cable.

Theres great info to look on.



This one also tells that tells that lying the cable on wooden block is not a troll.



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post Mar 9 2011, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Mar 9 2011, 04:18 PM)
We do so because it's a different story for high speed signals.

AF is only 20-20000KHz. High speed signals do not apply to audio frequencies. AF and RF can be thought of separate entities. They handle differently.

EDIT: Here's something easy to digest: http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...cable-resonance

Do the math and you'll realize how irrelevant resonance is when it comes to AF.

Also, try not reading up sources from cable commercial vendors. Whether you like it or not, people who are trying to sell you products will always be biased. Read up sources from engineering sources instead, they have real experts who deal with much difficult applications.
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Engineers will make a cables that suitable for AF, same as make a suitable cables for RF because theres no ideal cable we can do.

I still read up the commercial cable vendors sources, because all of them finds their own way to solve problem. But i don't like to read reviews, because too much of wrong fancy description.

Sometime have to be flexible too, although the scope can't tells difference, but ear keep finding difference no matter what mood. sweat.gif
I quite like finding all the truth of these anyway.


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post Mar 9 2011, 05:26 PM

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Hmm....so you will conclude that all exotic cables vendors are on strong placebo, sharing placebo and doing thier business only?
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post Mar 9 2011, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Mar 9 2011, 05:36 PM)
Yes.

I suppose for a free market, there is nothing wrong with selling placebos. I do not go against the will of demand and supply. But blurring the lines between fantasy and scientific fact should be discouraged as it impedes the understanding of science itself.
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IMO i'd like to try finding out the scientific fact that did the placebo.
But who knows in the math we forgotten to put the numbers in the equation to get the placebo.
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post Mar 9 2011, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Mar 9 2011, 06:31 PM)
If your search is to attain placebo, then all the power to you. wink.gif

You could try reading some books about hypnotism. Maybe free upgrades are on the way biggrin.gif
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But my now the placebo i wanted are not free sad.gif

Anyway, what makes you so anti those commercial cables?
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post Mar 10 2011, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 10 2011, 09:03 AM)
I didn't say it's a trolling fact. Lol. I have tried tuning feet and sticker-like (wall tuner?) product. I did feel the difference. While my 'feel' could be a placebo, I'm certainly to say that the product is well marketed to affect the listener's perception.
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Because some people being impress the product and straight purchase it, and they got chopped badly. Another is they try to make it look high end, with great paint and finishing then being taxed, resulted very expensive.

IMO this is not placebo, because subjective stuff sometimes unmeasurable or it is measurable but not a proper method to measure.

Placebo effects are the one that believe next year the earth will doomed after watching 2012. laugh.gif

 

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