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 Folding Bicycle like...........Dahon?, Any Idea..??? Please contribute.. Thx

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7giap
post Aug 9 2013, 04:12 AM

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any suggestion for entry lvl folding bike around 1k? many thanks!

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post Aug 9 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(7giap @ Aug 9 2013, 04:12 AM)
any suggestion for entry lvl folding bike around 1k? many thanks!
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Tambah another 300 bucks and get the Tern C7 thumbup.gif You won't regret it.
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post Aug 9 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Aug 8 2013, 04:56 PM)
Seems colour of dahon getting more and more Erm funky? Doesn't look good to me.

Btw, if I up my budget to rm2000, shoukd I get a Tern D8 or Dahon Speed 8? Is Dahon speed P8 spec have been change? Do the bike still come woth Schwable Big Apple? What have been change for new P8?

Almost all my fren recommended Speed P8.
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Dude,

If you have RM800 (RM2.8K) more to spare (can wait till the sale-season for better discounts), I would recommend you the Tern Link P9 (Now, made in Thailand).

This is a better ride. Handles really well and its all you need for leisure rides and can be rigged for bikepacking and touring..

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The Tern Link P9

As for the Dahon Speed P8, well, I must say that the quality has gone to the dogs! You get inferior components and some cheapass tires instead of the original Schwalbe Big Apple. If you can find any "old" Speed P8 (manufactured from 2008 - 2011), that would be the bike to go for!

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My 2008 Speed P8, rigged for touring..

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Tern Link P9 and 2011 Dahon Speed P8

What amazes me is the fact that Tern consistently improves their products..

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Tern's Link D7i with Shimano Nexus 7, 7-speed internal hub gear..

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Dahon Jetstream P8 & Tern Link D7i

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post Aug 9 2013, 10:03 PM

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Sam,

Very nice indeed for link P9. In fact I tested
P9 and found it superb. Just that rm2.8k is over killing. My initial budget is rm1.5k.

If I couldn't find 2011 Speed 8 perharps I should just get Tern D8. Where and how much is the cheapest D8 available? Is GW, Rodalink or Van Urban a good place to get Terns?
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post Aug 9 2013, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Aug 8 2013, 05:25 PM)
The new Dr.Hon Speed P8 has it's specs changed. Schwalbe Big Apples are not the original tires now, the brake levers are plastic (both the levers and the v-brakes needs to be changed!). the seat post pump is not given now, the shifters are not SRAM anymore but the cheap looking green colored Dahon shifter, there's no rear carrier, the seats are not Biologics anymore. Other than that, it's the same  tongue.gif
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That much changes???!! Very bad indeed! Still can find speed 8 2011 anywhere?
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post Aug 9 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Aug 9 2013, 10:03 PM)
Sam,

Very nice indeed for link P9. In fact I tested
P9 and found it superb. Just that rm2.8k is over killing. My initial budget is rm1.5k.

If I couldn't find 2011 Speed 8 perharps I should just get Tern D8. Where and how much is the cheapest D8 available? Is GW, Rodalink or Van Urban a good place to get Terns?
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IIRC there is a Red 2012 Speed P8 in Rodalink Bangsar. Last bike in the shop..

If I were you, I wait for a while till I can meet my budget quota and get the Link P9... Hhahaha!

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post Aug 10 2013, 12:38 AM

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Checking the Link P9 specs on Tern's website. It is almost similar components to the Verge P18 except for the transmission, RD and FD and Crank. The other difference is the P9's tyres with Schwalbe Marathon supreme vs the P18's Kojaks. Wa, P9 is slightly lighter than P18, I guess due to the extra smaller gear in the crank.

I almost bought this P9 when one of the shops had changed the standard Kinetix wheelset to 20" Wheelsport wheelset and priced the bike at RM4,000. This made it lighter and faster.

With the standard wheels it was about RM2,900 before discount.

If I couldn't get the P18, I would have got this bike as I could not wait till next for the new stock to arrive. Just itching to ride all over Klang valley.

One more thing about these Terns is the Physis handlepost. Not all Terns have this. But with the Physis design, when pedalling I can pull hard on the handlebar to provide a much higher degree of acceleration power than if I were just depend on my legs alone. So on some bikes the handlebars will sort of give way and seem like its going to break if you pull too hard. This feature is important as this is available on bigger road bikes that allows you to use both your legs and body / arms strength to propel forward. ... means you can keep up with bigger road bikes as well as reach your destination faster with less effort. smile.gif

Since I started riding in early June, I have lost 2 kg... I still have to lose another 2 kg so that my tummy does not show so much smile.gif



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post Aug 10 2013, 12:56 AM

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On this second day of Hari Raya, I went on a early morning ride from PJ.

At about 8am, I left Paramount and took the road toward University Hospital going down towards the Federal Highway. I suspected that there would be very light traffic and I was right. I took the bike lane along Federal Highway and no more than 2 motorbikes overtook me on the narrow bike lane, turned out at Jalan Pantai baru - Jln Bangsar - Jln Travers - Tun Sambanthan - Jln Stadium.

I then cruised all the way to Jalan Imbi and Jalan Inai, explored the back roads a bit and then headed towards Jalan Bukit Bintang. It was about 9am and there were quite a lot of tourists walking along this ever busy road. But it was nice that there is not much traffic about. No heavy bus fumes to fight off. And the early morning air was still cooling.

Then rode slowly past Jalan Pudu back towards Petaling Street area. Nice to ride slow and easy to take in the sights of street pedlars.

After that, took the way back to PJ via Universiti Malaya and completed a round trip back to Paramount of about 33 km.

Tired but happy. The surprising thing was that I spent almost about 2 hours on the saddle but still did not feel any soreness. Guess the designers know what they are doing.. ( Italian made Selle Royal gel saddles )

Will try another route tomorrow.

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post Aug 10 2013, 03:31 PM

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Can I know where can I get the ready stock for verge p18? Thanks
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post Aug 10 2013, 06:36 PM

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Me newbie to foldie... Was eyeing the Tern Link UNO for quite a while. I like the single speed drive train and the coaster brakes. Can't seem to find a link UNO with the optional v brake mount. Shop recommended me to put C calipers. Don't know if that is advisable. Not using it for touring but mere city riding - light urban riding. You guys thing the link UNO is a good buy?
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post Aug 10 2013, 10:22 PM

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I am now paying about RM100 per month for the gym facilities in which I find hard to stick to a regular gym schedule, end up I seldom go. And this means I find it hard to lose any weight sad.gif

But with a folding bike that is always in my car, its like I can do a workout anytime that I am free.

With a gym, I will have plan my time and convenience, make my way there which means facing the traffic conditions, and if I can workout for 1 hour, after that pay for parking, and then getting out to face more traffic.

All in all, having a foldable bike in my car is like having my own personal gym equipment with me all the time .. smile.gif I don't have to pay for parking, I don't have to travel to the gym or face traffic jams, I get more workout because the scenery is never the same.

In a gym, after a while everything is very very boring.
If you workout on the treadmill for 1 hour, you face the same machine for 1 hour ... very boring and uninteresting.

Whereas, if you were to cycle outdoors for 1 hour, with the changing scenery, you will feel more refreshed and energetic after 1 hour in addition to getting the exercise.


As my gym subscription is coming to an end in a few months more, I have been called up to renew for another 42 months for about RM4,000. But I don't think I will. The RM4,000 has gone into the Tern Verge P18, plus accessories and the results are showing now with the definite weight loss. ... *wide grin* ..

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post Aug 11 2013, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Aug 10 2013, 12:38 AM)
Checking the Link P9 specs on Tern's website.  It is almost similar components to the Verge P18 except for the transmission, RD and FD and Crank.  The other difference is the P9's tyres with Schwalbe Marathon supreme vs the P18's Kojaks.    Wa, P9 is slightly lighter than P18, I guess due to the extra smaller gear in the crank.

I almost bought this P9 when one of the shops had changed the standard Kinetix wheelset to 20" Wheelsport wheelset and priced the bike at RM4,000.  This made it lighter and faster.

With the standard wheels it was about RM2,900 before discount.

If I couldn't get the P18, I would have got this bike as I could not wait till next for the new stock to arrive.  Just itching to ride all over Klang valley.

One more thing about these Terns is the Physis handlepost.  Not all Terns have this.  But with the Physis design, when pedalling I can pull hard on the handlebar to provide a much higher degree of acceleration power than if I were just depend on my legs alone.  So on some bikes the handlebars will sort of give way and seem like its going to break if you pull too hard.  This feature is important as this is available on bigger road bikes that allows you to use both your legs and body / arms strength to propel forward.  ... means you can keep up with bigger road bikes as well as reach your destination faster with less effort.  smile.gif

Since I started riding in early June, I have lost 2 kg...  I still have to lose another 2 kg so that my tummy does not show so much  smile.gif
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A lot of Singaporeans have heavily modified their Link P9. With so much money spent, its just better to put the money on a Verge X10. Its all there in a neat package.

Agreed on the physis handlebar. I am using the latest physis 3D with the VRO syntace steering system.. Very firm and solid in terms of handling..

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With my colleague Kevin, who is also The Star cycling team's captain..

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The captain leading the way..

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At the end of a 10km hill course in Hulu Langat..

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My bike with the Physis 3D and VRO syntace steering system..

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post Aug 11 2013, 10:10 PM

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GUYZ, can i know what model of this 2 ?? Is it Speed P8 ??

QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 8 2013, 03:14 PM)

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This is visc p18 right ?

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I'm thinking to get Dash P18... need some advice here ... tongue.gif

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post Aug 12 2013, 09:19 AM

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The top bike is a Dahon Vitesse P18 (no longer in production), bottom two are the Visc P18s..

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post Aug 12 2013, 11:25 AM

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if compare Visc P18 with tern p18... which one better ? hehe
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can anyone share with me the pros n cons of a Brompton and Birdy ?
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if compare Visc P18 with tern p18... which one better ? hehe


How deep is your pocket?

There are QC issues with the Visc P18, components are inferior. Some cyclists have broken their rear derailleur climbing Genting Sempah, so, Le Run had issued them with new and improved RDs. Apart from the 'garang' look, the Visc is one of those bikes you can either admire or ignore.

Tern P18? Which one la? You mean Verge P18 ka? This is a best-seller and to be honest, great value for money because of its award-winning frame design.


QUOTE(surfsmurf @ Aug 12 2013, 11:45 AM)
can anyone share with me the pros n cons of a Brompton and Birdy ?
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Brompton, folds very compact. Very pleasing aesthetics. But very mahal and some of its crucial components and parts are made from plastic. Not as tough as other brand's folding bikes. But people who cycle them would say its a classy ride..

Birdy, hahah! Nice bike to ride, got full suspension, entry level bike is around RM3.7K, the best of the lot is around RM6.9K, some heavily modded models can chalk up as much as RM13K. Folding really sucks, heavy and all the joints are old school.

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This one belongs to Fei Lee from GW Cycles, agent for Pacific Cycle bikes including Birdy, IF and Reach.. Take note of the color-plus front and rear suspension upgrade, control tech carbon rims and that limited-edition goose poop green colour..

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post Aug 12 2013, 02:36 PM

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should I consider bike Friday ?
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post Aug 12 2013, 02:49 PM

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I tried to source for Dahon Speed 8 and seems that all new model. Component are really bad. Not like those 2011 model anymore. Their gear all paste with Dahon sticker. Yucks!

So I think I will not consider any Dahon for now. Anyway, between this two Tern, which one will u go for? Tern C7 or Tern D8.

Is it worth the extra RM500 for the D8 with extra 1 speed cand trolley rack joint? Other than that, I think the spec is pretty much standard as in C7.
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Aug 12 2013, 02:49 PM)
I tried to source for Dahon Speed 8 and seems that all new model. Component are really bad. Not like those 2011 model anymore. Their gear all paste with Dahon sticker. Yucks!

So I think I will not consider any Dahon for now. Anyway, between this two Tern, which one will u go for? Tern C7 or Tern D8.

Is it worth the extra RM500 for the D8 with extra 1 speed cand trolley rack joint? Other than that, I think the spec is pretty much standard as in C7.
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8sp, u can upg to 9,10sp easily

7sp, to upgrade 8,9,10 u need to change hub or wheelset

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