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wgy589
post Feb 8 2009, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(zoe2001 @ Feb 7 2009, 10:34 PM)
WHere can i get info on the jpa-sponsored graduate entry for medicine?
What about the requirements and procedure for graduates to apply for medicine in local universities?
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For graduate entry medical course the best choice would be Aust medskols,eg Melbourne, Sydney..., Duke-NUS in spore, and Cornell in Qatar.

I dun think jpa will sponsor ur graduate medical course. if u r having financial constraints, do consider Duke-NUS, cos they r providing lots of financial aids, but competition to get admitted is quite fierce I heard.
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post Feb 23 2009, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 23 2009, 07:52 PM)
IMU only recognized if you get to UK or others which recognized by SMC in your twinning year. So it actually kinda recognized by SMC.
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post Feb 19 2010, 02:51 PM

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"is recognised", not "is recognise"

sure it's recognised. read the previous posts abt similar issues.


Added on February 19, 2010, 2:54 pmhaha, they have repeated so many times to the extent that i can almost regurgitate what they have said word by word to you, but this will only encourage spoon feeding.



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post Feb 21 2010, 02:20 PM

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you should consider joining political parties...
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post Mar 13 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(joscmh90 @ Mar 13 2010, 12:13 AM)
Also , something to add on if you think doctors earn big bucks you are totally wrong.
The basic pay of fresh graduates of doctor is only RM2000 with only additional RM80 every year.
Comparing with the amount of time and money you spent on the course ; do some calculations ^^.

However , if that's really your interest. I wish you best of luck, it'll be tough so do some research.
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Are you sure it's only RM 2K?
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post Mar 13 2010, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(joscmh90 @ Mar 13 2010, 12:30 AM)
It's around that sum of money 2k+ , if you wanna know confirm ask the doctors =).
Coz I've already asked.
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I'm not studying in Msia, but i heard someone mentioned here in lowyat previously that there was an increment of HO pay to 4/5K or so, can anyone clarify this? Thanks!
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post Mar 13 2010, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 13 2010, 01:53 AM)
there are a bit of allowances, so once added in, and minus the tax and epf, expect to take home 3+ to 4+k, depending on how many calls you have to do..........


Added on March 13, 2010, 2:01 am

having said what i did, one really should NOT be allowed to enter med school from spm..........so the pre-u is probably more important.......and yes, there is indeed still opportunity to redeem oneself.........
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post Mar 13 2010, 01:40 PM

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hi, the 2nd question is a very typical thought most spm students will have.

theoretically you can definitely take up postgrad overseas, but it's very hard in reality.

you need to understand in order to do clinical postgrad, you should be licensed to practice in the country 1st, which generally will be full of obstacles if you are talking abt the 1st world countries.

If you managed to get the licence to practice, only then you will compete with other local applicants for post grad training, which is another hurdle.

life is not easy in medicine
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post May 4 2010, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(kirii @ May 4 2010, 10:01 PM)
How about Monash,Newcastle,Nottingham and many other foreign U which has a campus in Malaysia?
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only medskols with their clinical years done in the country of origin are recognised, like IMU-PMS route, but not penang medical college-RCSI/UCD, Monash, UKM, and Newcastle. Things might change though.
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post May 24 2010, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(epplegaara @ May 24 2010, 02:08 PM)
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It may sound very good that u graduated from an UK medical school, but it reality you are treated as a Malaysian graduate in most circumstances.
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post Oct 21 2010, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(jylne @ Oct 21 2010, 04:01 PM)
Well, I have doubts.

Can we, undergraduates, actually skip the housemanship and go overseas to do postgraduates?
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if your friend is desperate in doing so, he can consider US. US allows u to start residency (postgrad) without any prior work experience. technically residency in spore is also possible but Kasturba/Manipal is not recognised there.

Hope it helps. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 30 2010, 07:47 PM

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apparently the source you posted was from the Msian side.
Johns hopkins only mentioned most probably it will assist in the medskol but nothing is finalised yet.
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post Oct 30 2010, 08:12 PM

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which hosp is it affiliated with?
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post Dec 13 2010, 03:44 PM

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Public hospitals lose more specialists
http://www.sgmaritime.com/SingleNews.aspx?...rec_code=676184

This article is from Singapore, but the figures quoted should be similar without conversion.(S$=RM)

it says
"In the public sector, consultants earn between $12,000 and $60,000 a month, based on their seniority and specialty."

"A highly successful specialist in private practice can make up to 10 times what he was drawing in the public sector. These top doctors earn more than $1 million a year, with some reputed to rake in more than $5 million."

So i think it's really a matter of your commitment. if you are willing to work hard, the experience and skills you carry along with you will earn you big fortune. smile.gif

(there might be a lot of junior doctors nowadays, but the number of specialists is unlikely to increase tremendously)
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post Dec 13 2010, 05:17 PM

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post Dec 19 2010, 01:42 PM

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it will appear more appealing if the MD degree is conferred by Johns Hopkins itself. From the article it sounds to me that Perdana University is just another new private medical school in Malaysia, mabbe more high profile than say like Taylor's or TARC.

I think those with 1st degree should seriously consider Cornell-Qatar, Duke-NUS or even Australian Medical Schools. At least these are more well established, government initiative and the original medical schools are involved in conferring the degree.
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post Dec 23 2010, 12:50 PM

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it's not recognised in sg, and i guess that's why cckkpr was not sure what they are doing there, mabbe some research work or in pharmaceutical industry. (but some said that un recognised degrees will be considered for medical practice on a case by case basis, not sure thou)

as long as you MD is in WHO list, you can take usmle and apply for US residency.

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post Dec 23 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Dec 23 2010, 01:00 PM)
smc have taken people from unrecognised unis in as doctors many times before, on a person to person basis........eg, long before they recognised um and ukm 3 years ago, they have taken in graduates from um even in the late 70's.....so theoretically, a usci graduate can gain registration and work as a doctor in spore.........

as for usmle, ucsi is listed in the imed directory and thus students are allowed to sit for usmle to gain recognition to work in the us........

note that most of the new ipts med schools are not in the list.........


Added on December 23, 2010, 1:04 pm
they use ecfmg to determine eligibility, and ecfmg uses the imed list, as managed by faimer..........

https://imed.faimer.org/results.asp?country...=Asia&psize=100
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post Dec 24 2010, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Dec 23 2010, 05:22 PM)
Nah, I reckon they've shortage of lecturers too, and will try to import lecturers from other countries. Ppl tend to think that UCSI has a long establishment compared to the new IPTS, and they'll go 'this uni should be better', and there we have it. Still, RM600 for application fee is just way too much, just my opinion.
Well, I reckon the quality of the students depend partially on the uni, but also on the students themselves. So if they were to work hard, then surely they'll get much more out of it.

just wondering for those seniors, clinical outweighs preclinical? or are they equally important in terms of being a doctor in the future.
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hi clinical subjects are important for patient care, but are mostly learnt in pieces. pre clinical subjects help you to link up the pieces.

for example, in clinicals you will learn abdomen physical examination, which includes checking for palmar erythema in the hands, loss of axillary hair in the armpit, spider naevi and gynaecomastia in the chest, testicular atrophy in the genitalia, you learn all these in pieces but in pathology you know that liver is important to inactivate the estrogens and thus, insufficiency of the hepatocytes in chronic liver disease will cause accumulation of estrogen in the body causing all the signs mentioned.

so in this example as long as you mastered all the steps in abdomen physical examination it shouldn't be a problem for you to diagnose chronic liver disease. basic science helps you to link up the steps together and makes learning easier and more enjoyable. nod.gif


Added on December 24, 2010, 1:46 pm
QUOTE(mivec3gs @ Dec 23 2010, 05:21 PM)
is there a direct link i can refer to ?  biggrin.gif
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hi i guess you can refer to the reply by limeuu. nod.gif

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post Jan 10 2011, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 10 2011, 11:31 AM)
the exam does not solve the other set of problems......ie, the quality of local graduates, both ipta and ipts.....

there is also fear about the transparent conduct of the exam, lest it become another version of the clp for lawyers, which is designed to block and 'engineer' who gets admitted to the bar.....(see the court case a couple of years ago)....

and finally, the logistic difficulty of conducting such an exam for 3000+ new graduates from overseas, if there is a clinical component......

a simpler way of enduring quality is simply to tighten who gets admitted into medical schools......but the mohe/moh have painted themselves into a corner, by allowing too many private schools, and recognising too many foreign med schools.......pathways they have little or no control over.....

in any case, the feeling amongst the profession is, the gov in general is not concerned about quality......they just want the numbers filled.....after all decision makers don't use gov hospitals anyway.....
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