Thanks!!!

hmm.. i need some advises,questions are listed below,
1.If i take twining programme,should i do Clinical years in malaysia or overseas?
2.If i graduate from any University listed in MMC recognition,only malaysia medical university,can i do my postgraduate overseas?
e.g IMU

hi, the 2nd question is a very typical thought most spm students will have.

theoretically you can definitely take up postgrad overseas, but it's very hard in reality.

you need to understand in order to do clinical postgrad, you should be licensed to practice in the country 1st, which generally will be full of obstacles if you are talking abt the 1st world countries.

If you managed to get the licence to practice, only then you will compete with other local applicants for post grad training, which is another hurdle.

life is not easy in medicine

i decided to pursue MBBS/MD locally or twining then only go overseas to do postgraduate.

after that, come back to this country to work

it is not what YOU decide that matters.........

it is the respective countries' policy of whether your qualification is recognised, that matters........

I got 9As and B+ for BM. Am i on the right track to do medicine? Also is SPM still important to go into IMU(or any uni) if i take my A-lvls?

go for it..........

spm is useless for imu, they will not bother to look at it..........you need a proper pre-u........

however for some places, they will gladly take you in with spm, if you got the dough........they may throw some 'foundation' course in for a few months to make it look less blatant........russia is well known for this........

Thx for the positive comment. I will work hard for it.

You can try USMLE. Its the fastest way for local grad to work abroad.

what about question 1?

Can anyone tell me more about MSU's MBBS ? Preferably MSU students ?
Is the MBBS program new there or what ?

Trying to compare with AIMST , CUCMS , MSU , and UCSI since all of them are about 200-300k.

Thanks.

I believe.. I am the only one studying MBBS in MSU (India) in this sub-forum.

There are two MBBS program in MSU.
One being fully conducted in India (collaboration program) and the other one being conducted in Shah Alam (latest program).

As stated in the 1st page, it will cost RM450,000 for the Indian program (latest fee) and RM300,000 for the Malaysian program.
I have mentioned a little about MSU's MBBS program (India) in the first page.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 18 2010, 11:58 PM

Hmm , can I know your personal opinion ; as in with RM450k you could go for a "more" reputable university like IMU , or maybe MMMC. But why prefer MSU ?

that is more expensive than monash msia/imu-local/mmmc....

but may not be qualified enough to get in these 'reputable' med schools.......

MARA, the current sponsor for my MBBS studies, wants to sponsor me in MSU (India).
If I reject that offer, then it will be stupid of me to do so and then it would be my lost.

Besides, I already did my BSc.Biomedicine (hons) in MSU (Shah Alam) under JPA scholarship and I am familiar with the workings of my university.

So.. why not?

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Added on March 19, 2010, 4:55 pmThat is the latest fee by MSU for the Indian MBBS program.
It reflect the increase in fees by MS Ramaiah Medical College (MSU collaborate), which is now around USD120,000.

If you assume that studying medicine full-time abroad in India is cheap. Think again. See the fee structure for MBBS program in Kasturba Medical College (Manipal):

http://www.manipal.edu/InternationalStuden...erGraduate.aspx

...and limeuu, please don't come to a conclusion so fast as to weather a person is qualified to join the local medical IPTS or not without first knowing his/her academic results.

In MSU (India) campus now, JPA and MARA sponsored students make-up the majority of the students studying here and they are certainly not academically unqualified to do MBBS.

To tell you the truth...


This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 23 2010, 11:03 PM

as i understand, even if u're to complete ur whole degree (MBBS/MD) overseas.. it doesn't mean u're allowed to practice in that country or other countries although the programme is internationally recognized. again, it'll go back to the countries's pre-requisites n limitations...

for students interested in doing their postgraduate upon completion of the programme, UK offers this programme called The Foundation Programme, of which its a 2 years programme. however, if i'm not mistaken (mind me if i'm wrong).. there is its limitations into the programme. Applicants must be a graduate from a recognize EU medical faculty n etc...

fy1 and fy2 are the equivalents of the housemanship in msia......in fact, they started the 2 year housemanship first, and msia followed recently.........

that has NOTHING to do with postgraduate training........

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Added on March 22, 2010, 7:21 pmi said 'may'........i make no presumption or conclusion on any individuals, unless of course their spm/pre-u results are revealed........

getting into ipts med schools is easy, especially the newer ones.......the hardest to get in are monash and imu-pms, but even so, there are lots of people who failed to get direct entry into uk/oz who easily got into monash and imu.........so they are also 'easy' relatively.....

and being some scholars in the msian context does not necessarily mean good students.......it may surprise people to learn that the failures in the infamous eos2 and 3 of imu are mostly scholars..........

point is, and that's the fact i have always highlighted, msia does NOT select the best of it's youths, it's manpower, to become doctors........in direct contrast to the oecd countries.......


This post has been edited by limeuu: Mar 22 2010, 07:21 PM

Hey , i heard that UCSI is offering medicine . its MD not MBBS . Can i know what are the differences between these two. And is ucsi even recognized? i dont see its name under the MMC list :|

Hey guys, I actually asked about the Medicine course in Taylor's to the Dean for my sister who is currently doing SAM.Since I already got the information just decided to share it with you guys that might be interested ^^

it's pretty much the same MINIMUM qualifications required as imu's........except that the minimum is no longer enough for entry in imu..........although it may still be for taylors.........

what is surprising is, taking AAA in a-levels as equivalent to ter90 in sam......based on relative performances by equivalent students in the 2 system, it is estimated that AAA equals a ter of 94-95.........

which is why students with a-levels have an advantage over those with sam/ausmat for entry into aussie med schools......they will consider those with AAA, but those with ter<97 can pretty much say goodbye to any chance of entry........those no-hopers who are on the band 94-97, if they have taken a-levels and got AAA at least will still be considered.........

for taylors, the reverse may now be true.......if st georges accepts ter90, it means they accept ABB or AAB equivalent, but demand straight AAA from a-levels.........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Mar 23 2010, 11:50 PM