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Life Sciences [List] Private Medical Universities in Malaysia, *MD / MBBS / MBBChBAO (Update-17/11/14)*

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SUSOptiplex330
post Feb 11 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 11 2014, 02:54 PM)
politics....otherwise, the uni will have collapsed long ago from no enrolment....

it is one of many means of shifting taxpayers money into private pockets...
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So how's PUGSOM's quality? Is the name John Hopkin for show or for real?

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 03:11 PM)
That's more like it. I find it very hard to believe UK university will accept medical student with only 2 As in A-Level or STPM. Not unless you are a Saudi prince or with great political connection or something usual.
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RCSI in Ireland has LOADS of saudi and middle eastern students...
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RCSI in Ireland has LOADS of saudi and middle eastern students...
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Even PMC now has loads of bumis(the non performing ones or those that drop out of UK).
Could be some ownership connections.

Some years back, Malaysians bought ownership control of Ohio University to produce US graduates!
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RCSI in Ireland has LOADS of saudi and middle eastern students...
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Entered with pre-U's 2 As?

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Some years back, Malaysians bought ownership control of Ohio University to produce US graduates!
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When come to ingenuity, Malaysian one of the best. LOL.

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 03:54 PM)
Entered with pre-U's 2 As?
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I was told it's not as strict or stringent with its entry requirements.
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sorry for the inconvenience,im finding mbbs course, i had choose few university which are cucms, mahsa ,lincoln. may i know which one is the best?

I wanna ask whether taiwan is a good place to study medicine?
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sorry for the inconvenience,im finding mbbs course, i had choose few university which are cucms, mahsa ,lincoln. may i know which one is the best?

I wanna ask whether taiwan is a good place to study medicine?
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CUCMS is ok

Taiwan also good in quality and cheaper fee, but only few universities is recognized
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cucms had been disciplined by mmc for over enrolment, and their registration is currently provisional....i see this is intransigence.....and NOT a good indication of a good high standard med school....obviously money is more important....

mahsa also has problems....lincoln is just buying a de-recognised ukraine programme....

if taiwan is in the crosshair, a recognised med school there will be 10 times better than new msian ipts.....go....
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Taiwan med needs 7 years. I think 1st year being a 'general' year. My friend who did dentistry there had a year of general science subjects, with some others like PE (yes, physical activities), and music. The sad thing is that msia don't recognize most of the certs from taiwan.

Who told you that cucms is 'ok'? The word 'ok' seems misleading. There were many issues with the uni. I remembered back 6 years ago, even the more well established unis had troubles keeping good lecturers. Let alone the new ones. I'm not sure of the situation now. But you get the idea. I would say stay away from CUCMS? MAHSA is a maybe. Lincoln I have no idea about really. Too many 'new' med schools.

Just stick with the old ones tongue.gif monash, IMU. Or get out of the country to have a taste if you can afford it, financially and academically.
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i wanna ask one question about medic ED. Are the agent of medic Ed trustworthy? i maybe choose to go indonesia.. is the place good to study medicine?
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never use agents....why do you need agents?....



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never use agents....why do you need agents?....
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i though need agent to help u apply university?
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why?... you cannot read?.....cannot talk?...cannot fill forms?....
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 03:17 PM)
So how's PUGSOM's quality? Is the name John Hopkin for show or for real?
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90% of the PUGSOM professors are directly from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (JHSOM). Different professors with different specialties fly in all the way from Baltimore to teach each different modules/subjects. These professors have years of experience in teaching and are top scientist-physicians. Their dedication and enthusiasm towards teaching is another thing that shouldn't be overlooked. They give clear explanations on their lectures and forever welcome the students to raise any sort of questions, in class or via email, as there are no such thing as stupid question in medicine. They will reply your emails even if you email them during the weekends.

Another thing to note is that PUGSOM students use the same teaching materials as the ones being used by Hopkins students. So yes, as you might have guessed, they are following the exact syllabus used by JHSOM. I would say that the Genes to Society curriculum is a revolutionary break through in medical education. It emphasizes on treating the patient as an individual and not the disease. A lot of clinical correlations are embedded in the lectures so that students are aware of the clinical significance even just studying from the materials. Clinical exposure is as early the 1st week at school!

How well are the PUGSOM students doing? Just pay a visit to HKL and you shall see what's so special about them. smile.gif The inaugural class is going into their final year soon. It's time to review the skepticism. wink.gif
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Btw, just to clear things up, there are TWO med schools and ONE school of occupational therapy under Perdana University.

The two med schools are:-
Perdana University Graduate School of Medicine (PUGSOM) in collaboration with Johns Hopkins
Perdana University - Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland (PU-RCSI)

This post has been edited by cakes&cream: Apr 15 2014, 10:27 PM
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May i ask about University gadjah mada(UGM) and University sumatera utara . which one is better? Are they using english when teaching?
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May i ask about University gadjah mada(UGM) and University sumatera utara . which one is better? Are they using english when teaching?
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you are thinking of studying in a country where almost nobody speaks english, and you ask if their courses are conducted in english?.....

and if they do, what does that fact, that they teach in english in a country where almost nobody speaks english tell you about the uni/programme?.....
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QUOTE(cakes&cream @ Apr 15 2014, 10:19 PM)
90% of the PUGSOM professors are directly from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (JHSOM). Different professors with different specialties fly in all the way from Baltimore to teach each different modules/subjects. These professors have years of experience in teaching and are top scientist-physicians. Their dedication and enthusiasm towards teaching is another thing that shouldn't be overlooked. They give clear explanations on their lectures and forever welcome the students to raise any sort of questions, in class or via email, as there are no such thing as stupid question in medicine. They will reply your emails even if you email them during the weekends.

Another thing to note is that PUGSOM students use the same teaching materials as the ones being used by Hopkins students. So yes, as you might have guessed, they are following the exact syllabus used by JHSOM. I would say that the Genes to Society curriculum is a revolutionary break through in medical education. It emphasizes on treating the patient as an individual and not the disease. A lot of clinical correlations are embedded in the lectures so that students are aware of the clinical significance even just studying from the materials. Clinical exposure is as early the 1st week at school!

How well are the PUGSOM students doing? Just pay a visit to HKL and you shall see what's so special about them. smile.gif The inaugural class is going into their final year soon. It's time to review the skepticism.  wink.gif
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I have met one of the lecturers teaching general medicine while I was doing my placement in HKL last year. And I do agree, he was really passionate in teaching, very nice and very knowledgeable. I think the only issue was the barrier of language and communication between patients. The students that I met were really smart, pretty much better than most of the interns there at the time when being put on the spot to answer some questions.

I've only seen a part of the whole course, but I'm happy enough to have a chance to engage with the handful and see how things are like.
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QUOTE(cakes&cream @ Apr 15 2014, 10:19 PM)
90% of the PUGSOM professors are directly from Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (JHSOM). Different professors with different specialties fly in all the way from Baltimore to teach each different modules/subjects. These professors have years of experience in teaching and are top scientist-physicians. Their dedication and enthusiasm towards teaching is another thing that shouldn't be overlooked. They give clear explanations on their lectures and forever welcome the students to raise any sort of questions, in class or via email, as there are no such thing as stupid question in medicine. They will reply your emails even if you email them during the weekends.

Another thing to note is that PUGSOM students use the same teaching materials as the ones being used by Hopkins students. So yes, as you might have guessed, they are following the exact syllabus used by JHSOM. I would say that the Genes to Society curriculum is a revolutionary break through in medical education. It emphasizes on treating the patient as an individual and not the disease. A lot of clinical correlations are embedded in the lectures so that students are aware of the clinical significance even just studying from the materials. Clinical exposure is as early the 1st week at school!

How well are the PUGSOM students doing? Just pay a visit to HKL and you shall see what's so special about them. smile.gif The inaugural class is going into their final year soon. It's time to review the skepticism.  wink.gif
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No doubt about the quality of JHSOM and their teaching methods.

Yeah, you can have the best teachers but if most of the students are not up to the level desired, the expectations and the products is questionable.

I agree that meritocracy do play a part in the recruitment of esp foreign students but the same cannot be said of locals in compliance of local policies and sponsored students.

I would also ask why would locals who have achieved brilliant results want to study in a local university when the gomen is ever willing to provide them with full resources to enable them to achieve their objective in good overseas universities.

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