I want to ask if there any possibilities that HR doesn't allow you to use your balance annual leave to reduce notice period of resignation?
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Resignation Handbook, Revamp in progress 240614
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May 25 2015, 05:26 PM
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I want to ask if there any possibilities that HR doesn't allow you to use your balance annual leave to reduce notice period of resignation?
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May 26 2015, 11:28 AM
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are there such thing that my employer choose to reject/don't accept my resignation letter? if yes, what can i do?
reason for rejection is due to insufficient of staff |
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May 26 2015, 02:26 PM
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May 26 2015, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ May 26 2015, 11:28 AM) are there such thing that my employer choose to reject/don't accept my resignation letter? if yes, what can i do? the way i look at ur case, it is due to u being so important to the company, the excuse given is so secondary reason for rejection is due to insufficient of staff |
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May 26 2015, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(imahappyklown @ Apr 2 2015, 05:32 PM) Hi, I would like some advice regarding my wife's current predicament. 'she's going to a competitors' company', should the company feel so, if yes based on what? it sounds a bit personal riteShe has just sent in her resignation letter to her employer, which at first they refuse to accept. Eventually they come out and say that because she's going to a competitors company, she has to pay them 1 month salary and serve her notice period. In which case she has to work a month or free. Is it possible for them to do so? Even under the circumstance that it is stated in her offer letter, would it stand in court? She said the company is notorious for suing ex-employees over resigning, so we'd like to atleast know what we'll be facing. Thanks in advance. P.S. As mentioned previously in the 1st post, I believe she is covered under the Emploment Act (<Rm2500), so does that mean the contract is void? |
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May 26 2015, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Apr 2 2015, 07:13 PM) First of all, stay calm. If your occupation is non-manual, the Employment Act does not cover you. However if your salary is less than RM5000 and if your employer fails to provide you whatever stated in the contract of service, you can still make claim at the Labour Office.Read and understand what the terms and conditions contained in the letter of offer first. Is there really such a clause? Next your employer should put it down in writing that because she is going to competitor company, she has to work a month or pay one month salary. All this should be documented. Any other arrangements should also be documented. I believe if a person falls within the purview of employment act, they r subject to those provisions and I don't think you can contract out of it. Unfortunately, I never really studied it in dept so...you may want to find your own source. Once you have all your documentation, you can proceed to submit a complaint to labour department . should be quite interesting. Also noteworthy is section 28 of the contract act... But don't know whether it applies... 28.Every agreement by which anyone is restrained from exercising a lawful profession, trade, or business of any kind, is to that extent void. If your occupation is manual one, you are covered by Employment Act irrespective how much you earn. |
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May 26 2015, 03:52 PM
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May 26 2015, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ May 26 2015, 03:52 PM) so by law, there is no such thing as my employer choosing 'not' to accept my resignation letter right? yup, it is all about the notice to be served so should u fail to comply u pay, should the company fail to comply they pay that is allThis post has been edited by carrozaria: May 26 2015, 03:59 PM |
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May 28 2015, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(carrozaria @ May 26 2015, 03:11 PM) If your occupation is non-manual, the Employment Act does not cover you. However if your salary is less than RM5000 and if your employer fails to provide you whatever stated in the contract of service, you can still make claim at the Labour Office. -corrected-If your occupation is manual one, you are covered by Employment Act irrespective how much you earn. Schedule 1, item 1 - if her salary is lower than RM 2500, she is coveted. Schedule 1, item 2 - assuming she is doing manual work and earning a wage, she is covered. This section is not dependent on salary thresholds. Should answer everyone's question. This post has been edited by aurora97: May 28 2015, 09:31 AM |
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May 28 2015, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ May 26 2015, 11:28 AM) are there such thing that my employer choose to reject/don't accept my resignation letter? if yes, what can i do? No.sounds like modern day slavery.reason for rejection is due to insufficient of staff You can submit your resignation to your superior and hr. Asked both to acknowledge receipt. If they refuse, ask for a reason. If they don't give, you will treat your resignation as tendered. Give them one day to respond. No answer, do a reverse confirmation as to what had transpired. Basically detail what had happened and reason given. Take the letter you have written and give it to your employer and hr. You should have a response. If they still refuse to release you. Tell them that you will leave once your notice period is up. Do a reverse confirmation of the events that transpired. If they still do not release your letters to labour department and file a complaint. You should have a pretty strong case by then. |
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May 28 2015, 01:55 PM
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Thanks for the valuable information!
How bout extension? Can my boss extend my 1 month notice period? If he extends, I have the right to choose not to serve right? |
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May 28 2015, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ May 28 2015, 01:55 PM) Thanks for the valuable information! suggestion dont accept.How bout extension? Can my boss extend my 1 month notice period? If he extends, I have the right to choose not to serve right? resigned staff don't normally enjoy the benefits of a full time staff, you do so at your own risk, if you accept. |
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May 29 2015, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ May 28 2015, 03:57 PM) suggestion dont accept. my superior just told me to stay longer... if according to law, do they have the right to extend my notice? in offer letter, it's stated 1 month notice.. but can they legally choose to extend it, if i do not accept?resigned staff don't normally enjoy the benefits of a full time staff, you do so at your own risk, if you accept. |
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May 30 2015, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(raptar_eric @ May 29 2015, 06:27 PM) my superior just told me to stay longer... if according to law, do they have the right to extend my notice? in offer letter, it's stated 1 month notice.. but can they legally choose to extend it, if i do not accept? Let's not talk about law, let's talk about logic here.If I promise you to come at 10pm but never appear.... What good is a promise right? A promise is a contract after all, just that the later is in writing. One a contract has been signed. The contents are binding like a promise. Contacts can only be amended, if both party agrees. In your case, where a party unilaterally amends the contract, it is not binding on you. The one month notice still stands as you didn't agree to it earlier. |
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Jun 16 2015, 08:40 AM
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hi..
can someone enlighten me how to get a recommendation letter? my prev resignation i told my boss but he told me to ask hq ppl get me.. i didnt ask i never had recomendation letter im only in my second company tho |
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Jun 16 2015, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(call me random @ Jun 16 2015, 08:40 AM) hi.. btw what's inside a recommendation letter?can someone enlighten me how to get a recommendation letter? my prev resignation i told my boss but he told me to ask hq ppl get me.. i didnt ask i never had recomendation letter im only in my second company tho I would presume that the alternative would be to have referees. Anyway we are straying off-topic. I think is best you ask the general population instead. |
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Jun 16 2015, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jun 16 2015, 11:28 AM) btw what's inside a recommendation letter? something like giving credits la.. I would presume that the alternative would be to have referees. Anyway we are straying off-topic. I think is best you ask the general population instead. if see other ppl resume sometimes got a few recomendation letter fr previous employers.. i think it revolves around resignation period too isnt it? usually situation turns bitter once u tender.. so asking for a favor seems to be bit too tough of a thing to ask at least thats what happened to me. no farewell no nothing |
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Jun 16 2015, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(call me random @ Jun 16 2015, 11:34 AM) something like giving credits la.. Reminds me back in university days, we ask for reference from university lecturers.if see other ppl resume sometimes got a few recomendation letter fr previous employers.. i think it revolves around resignation period too isnt it? usually situation turns bitter once u tender.. so asking for a favor seems to be bit too tough of a thing to ask at least thats what happened to me. no farewell no nothing Resignation thread is basically how to get a person “properly” resigned to avoid unnecessary punitive action (legal, withhold salary,epf etc…) taken by employer. Most people know how to get in but when they get out the time…. *shetbrix* Recommendation on the other hand, is something additional that you do to secure future employment. P/S: Even if you have a recommendation letter, your future employer will still call up you ex-company and ask them about the content (probably to authenticate it). It’s best that you chummy with your ex-boss and ex-superiors and get them on-board as your referrals instead. |
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Jun 23 2015, 02:22 PM
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Hi guys need some guidelines on annual leave offset notice period.
Let say my notice period is 2 months and I have tendered my resignation in May. Thus my last working day shall be in July. I would prefer to use annual leave to offset my notice period. Let say I have a benefit of annual leave of 14 days annually for 2015 (never apply leave in 2015 before May) My balance of annual leave shall be based on my resignation date or last working day? if July (Last working day) it should be 7~8 days for offsetting purpose. if May (Resignation day) it should be less than 6 days for offsetting purpose. This post has been edited by frequency: Jun 23 2015, 03:53 PM |
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Jun 23 2015, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE(frequency @ Jun 23 2015, 02:22 PM) Hi guys need some guidelines on annual leave offset notice period. A bit confused with your question.Let say my notice period is 2months I tendered my resignation in May and I would prefer to use annual leave to offset my notice period. I have a balance of annual leave of 14 days for 2015 (never apply leave) Should I entitled for annual while leave serving the notice period? In other words, up to July I have 7 days of annual leave. My last working day shall be shall be 2 months - 7 working days. ( July - 7 days) Or it shall be 2 months - 5 working days (July - 5 days) , since i tendered resignation letter in May) ? If you have earned your 14 days, by right you should be working 76 days (assuming its 3 months notice). Also, when HR calculate “notice period”, it’s including non-working days. However, for off-setting purposes. The annual leaves are applied to working days. |
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