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post Feb 4 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jan 30 2015, 10:48 PM)
Guys anyone have experience in resigning during probation period??? What is best excuse to tell them you want to resign after 3 month??
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no reason required. Just state you are resigning based on the terms and conditions of the LO you have signed.
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post Feb 4 2015, 05:11 PM

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May I know, if one have signed the Letter of Offer & then , later inform the future employee of not joining the company , what are the possible consequences?
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post Feb 4 2015, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 4 2014, 04:25 PM)
Bonus is at discretion of the company, that is why they are not bound by law to pay, unless you have things like guaranteed bonus or such. Even so, usually there would be a clause that you need to be in active service on payout date.

Payment is in March because the financials only gets finalised in January (to determine profit and loss), then subsequently the other two months to do the necessary prep.
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Let's Say I have tendered today 4th Feb , with 2 months resignation period , so my last day should be on 4th April, & bonus payout in March .

Any possibility that I still entitle to the bonus pay out?
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QUOTE(melol @ Feb 4 2015, 05:11 PM)
May I know, if one have signed the Letter of Offer & then , later inform the future employee of not joining the company , what are the possible consequences?
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No consequences, but make sure you fullfil all the requirements set by them for tendering your resignation.

QUOTE(melol @ Feb 4 2015, 05:14 PM)
Let's Say I have tendered today 4th Feb , with 2 months resignation period , so my last day should be on 4th April, & bonus payout in March .

Any possibility that I still entitle to the bonus pay out?
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yes 4th of April is Saturday. Should be 3rd April. tongue.gif

The bonus payout is very depending on your boss. Some say don't entitled for bonus, some does give for showing the employer are very much hope that you can stay/ come back in near future.
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QUOTE(melol @ Feb 4 2015, 05:14 PM)
Let's Say I have tendered today 4th Feb , with 2 months resignation period , so my last day should be on 4th April, & bonus payout in March .

Any possibility that I still entitle to the bonus pay out?
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You are eligible for it, not necessary entitled to one. It is much to the prerogative of your boss and company whether they want to still give you bonus or not.

Most often, bosses and companies would take away whatever intended bonus for those who tendered or resigned before the payout period. What people often do is to request of a sign-on / guaranteed bonus from the new company who wants you to join before the payout to compensate for your 'losses' in this current role. Working in a bank? wink.gif
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post Feb 4 2015, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Feb 4 2015, 12:37 PM)
no reason required. Just state you are resigning based on the terms and conditions of the LO you have signed.
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I have no problem writing out the letter. I am worried about the big fuss like the management & hr asking me i am leaving so soon?
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post Feb 10 2015, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Feb 4 2015, 10:35 AM)
You are eligible for it, not necessary entitled to one. It is much to the prerogative of your boss and company whether they want to still give you bonus or not.

Most often, bosses and companies would take away whatever intended bonus for those who tendered or resigned before the payout period. What people often do is to request of a sign-on / guaranteed bonus from the new company who wants you to join before the payout to compensate for your 'losses' in this current role. Working in a bank?  wink.gif
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Any part of the labor law that states that one is entitled to the full payment of salary, bonus, etc etc after tendering resignation letter?
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Feb 10 2015, 11:16 PM)
Any part of the labor law that states that one is entitled to the full payment of salary, bonus, etc etc after tendering resignation letter?
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I can't remember off-hand, but any amount stated in the contract have to honored, so salary will still be payable. What most companies do is to prorate the salary.

But bonus comes with a caveat that is is to the discretion of the management, which is why they can decide to pull back any recommendations when you tender.
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QUOTE(fuzzy @ Feb 10 2015, 03:21 PM)
I can't remember off-hand, but any amount stated in the contract have to honored, so salary will still be payable. What most companies do is to prorate the salary.

But bonus comes with a caveat that is is to the discretion of the management, which is why they can decide to pull back any recommendations when you tender.
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I see. I was under the impression that bonus is part of the salary hence some companies put it as 13 month salary package.
Thanks for the clarification.
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Feb 11 2015, 08:50 AM)
I see. I was under the impression that bonus is part of the salary hence some companies put it as 13 month salary package.
Thanks for the clarification.
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There are contractual bonuses and performance bonuses. You will need to find out which is the one you signed up for.

Contractual bonuses are usually bound by the contract that it must be paid, though do read up on the contract if there are any clauses for them to retract in the event of tendering of resignation.
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Omg. After reading this thread I farked up badly guys. I am in the small hospitality/hotel industry. I resign when I was mentally very angry with some senior staff. When hr interviewed me I told them how bad were the senior staff. Literally bad mouth all of them.

Reading this thread this was a huge mistake. Will i be having a hard time getting a job in this industry now??

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post Feb 13 2015, 04:40 AM

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Guys, I have a question~

Let's say I am going to enter a company (A) on the 1st of March 2015.

Then, I got a better job offer which is what I have been waiting for, and I should be entering the new company (B) on May 2015.

Is it ok if I were to work for just one month then resign, then join the dream job I am waiting for? Let's say the notice period is one month. So I tender resignation on 1st April, leave on 1st May.

Is this an acceptable move or something that will create a negative view on my career?
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post Feb 28 2015, 12:24 AM

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i want resign. should i inform my superior through phone before im tender letter to my manager?
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QUOTE(Double_Ace @ Feb 11 2015, 10:03 PM)
Omg. After reading this thread I farked up badly guys. I am in the small hospitality/hotel industry. I resign when I was mentally very angry with some senior staff. When hr interviewed me I told them how bad were the senior staff. Literally bad mouth all of them.

Reading this thread this was a huge mistake. Will i be having a hard time getting a job in this industry now??
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I don't think it's as bad as resigning 24 hours without giving any notice, HR will practically blacklist you from every job site available in Malaysia.

You unfortunately may not be able to work for the same company again...

That's my hunch. Also, i think "exit interviews" are complete rubbish.


QUOTE(Prothero @ Feb 13 2015, 04:40 AM)
Guys, I have a question~

Let's say I am going to enter a company (A) on the 1st of March 2015.

Then, I got a better job offer which is what I have been waiting for, and I should be entering the new company (B) on May 2015.

Is it ok if I were to work for just one month then resign, then join the dream job I am waiting for? Let's say the notice period is one month. So I tender resignation on 1st April, leave on 1st May.

Is this an acceptable move or something that will create a negative view on my career?
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Contractually, you have done nothing wrong. You followed the one month termination notice period.

So... if you want to play the game smart, just don't tell you employer the real reason your leaving! This shouldn't create a negative view on your career.

In the end, what is morally/ethically wrong, may not be legally wrong.

QUOTE(steven1107 @ Feb 28 2015, 12:24 AM)
i want resign. should i inform my superior through phone before im tender letter to my manager?
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it's always better to tender your letter first before you may any subsequent move. Otherwise, they think you not serious.

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post Mar 16 2015, 11:33 PM

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Hi guys... I need some help in this situation...

My story is here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3524557

my resignation countdown should begin from the day i pass to hr or my boss must sign my letter first, i passed it her few days earlier before i passed another copy to hr as she kept the letter to herself. My boss doesn't want to let me go, still pestering me to stay on...

What's you guys opinion on this?
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post Mar 18 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(rickyro @ Mar 16 2015, 11:33 PM)
Hi guys... I need some help in this situation...

My story is here https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3524557

my resignation countdown should begin from the day i pass to hr or my boss must sign my letter first, i passed it her few days earlier before i passed another copy to hr as she kept the letter to herself. My boss doesn't want to let me go, still pestering me to stay on...

What's you guys opinion on this?
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Unless there are other Clauses in your contract that are not "standard in nature"...

Notice of termination starts from the day you serve your notice. It doesn't matter whether your boss approves of it or otherwise.
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Mar 18 2015, 01:29 PM)
Unless there are other Clauses in your contract that are not "standard in nature"...

Notice of termination starts from the day you serve your notice. It doesn't matter whether your boss approves of it or otherwise.
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It seems standard overall biggrin.gif
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post Mar 19 2015, 11:54 PM

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When we tender resignation from the company and have to serve a notice period for example 2 months, are we still considered as an employee for the company during that 2 months?
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post Mar 20 2015, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(aeratholas @ Mar 19 2015, 11:54 PM)
When we tender resignation from the company and have to serve a notice period for example 2 months, are we still considered as an employee for the company during that 2 months?
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yes.
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post Mar 23 2015, 11:34 AM

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Hello. A question to ask. What if after tender resignation, initially agreed to serve 3 months notice. But serving half way, decided to ask for early release maybe let's say not wanting to serve the final month. Is this allowed? Does it also depends on company and boss?

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