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post May 11 2019, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(l4nc3k @ Feb 18 2019, 03:33 PM)
Need help or sharing from sifus here.. sad.gif

I currently work in an oil & gas MNC, but I am planning to resign because of some family issues and might take about 2 months break after resignation.

My question, is it advisable to do this if I plan to return to O&G field or just engineering field in general? Some of my peers suggested me to find a job first before resigning because a gap in my resume might be a warning sign to potential employers in the future.

I have a little bit more than 3 years experience in this current company, holding different portfolios and worked in different branches.

Thanks in advanced.
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Hi, any updates on your situation ?
Did you resign ?
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post May 14 2019, 09:07 AM

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Morning, looking for your opinions.

I've submitted my resignation letter with one month notice on the 15/04/2019.

My ex boss refused to accept the letter and threw it away. I did keep a copy and filed it, and also made a copy of my own.

I continue to work for the one month and it ended last week. However, now the ex boss is still calling me to come into work. He even went so far as to say, he does not mind if I work for both companies as long as I did his work.

He has insisted he will never accept the resignation letter and that I am still legally his staff...

What am I to do? I have move on with my new job and yet he keeps calling non stop.
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post May 16 2019, 07:11 PM

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Hi guys, I tendered my resignation with 1 month notice on 2/5/19. My last day should be on 1/6/19, but I have negative AL of 4 days, common practice is to deduct pay but can I choose to extend my notice period for another 4 days?
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post May 19 2019, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(shasit @ May 14 2019, 09:07 AM)
Morning, looking for your opinions.

I've submitted my resignation letter with one month notice on the 15/04/2019.

My ex boss refused to accept the letter and threw it away. I did keep a copy and filed it, and also made a copy of my own.

I continue to work for the one month and it ended last week. However, now the ex boss is still calling me to come into work. He even went so far as to say, he does not mind if I work for both companies as long as I did his work.

He has insisted he will never accept the resignation letter and that I am still legally his staff...

What am I to do? I have move on with my new job and yet he keeps calling non stop.
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There's no way an employer can "reject" one's resignation letter. You can ignore your boss's calling. Just wondering, when you send in your resignation letter, did you forward one to HR? Did HR proceed with the SOP? Was everything done in a proper manner?

QUOTE(QianYu @ May 16 2019, 07:11 PM)
Hi guys, I tendered my resignation with 1 month notice on 2/5/19. My last day should be on 1/6/19, but I have negative AL of 4 days, common practice is to deduct pay but can I choose to extend my notice period for another 4 days?
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Common practice is to deduct your pay. You can try to talk to your immediate superior, CC to your company HR. If your boss agree, then that shouldn't be an issue. Once your boss agree, I believe HR will do the rest and you need to follow up with them to ensure your pay did not get deducted.
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post May 21 2019, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ May 19 2019, 11:05 AM)
There's no way an employer can "reject" one's resignation letter. You can ignore your boss's calling. Just wondering, when you send in your resignation letter, did you forward one to HR? Did HR proceed with the SOP? Was everything done in a proper manner?

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I sent it in on the 15/04/2019 and worked for the next four week as I had to give one month notice.

HR recorded one and filed it but both copies (one to my boss and HR did not have his signature as he refused to sign it). I did my hand over multiple time as the person taking over kept insisting I did not do it correctly (even though he signed the hand over forms a few times)

All office items were passed back.

But he is still insisting that I come back to work and that I did not give notice as he did not agree to it. Plus he refuses to pay any of my claims or the last two weeks salary until I come back.
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post May 21 2019, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(shasit @ May 21 2019, 07:27 AM)
I sent it in on the 15/04/2019 and worked for the next four week as I had to give one month notice.

HR recorded one and filed it but both copies (one to my boss and HR did not have his signature as he refused to sign it). I did my hand over multiple time as the person taking over kept insisting I did not do it correctly (even though he signed the hand over forms a few times)

All office items were passed back.

But he is still insisting that I come back to work and that I did not give notice as he did not agree to it. Plus he refuses to pay any of my claims or the last two weeks salary until I come back.
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Your ex-boss is being immature about it. No one can "reject" one's resignation application. There's no "correct" way to handover or tendering a resignation. You had done your part.

Btw, did you follow up with the HR personnel on the status? Was the claim amount big? Would like be able to forego the amount? hmm.gif
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post May 21 2019, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ May 21 2019, 08:29 AM)
Your ex-boss is being immature about it. No one can "reject" one's resignation application. There's no "correct" way to handover or tendering a resignation. You had done your part. 

Btw, did you follow up with the HR personnel on the status? Was the claim amount big? Would like be able to forego the amount? hmm.gif
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Phew... I'm just relieved to have moved out of that toxic place. There was too much of cheating / illegal stuff going on last year that I just needed to walk away.

There is no HR since I left. I did my filing properly tho before I left.

Around RM2k, but I am willing to forgo it. I do not want any drama / issues related to the old company.

However, he has not paid EPF for the entire company since Jan 2019. Worried that he might try to skip on paying mine since I left.
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post May 21 2019, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(shasit @ May 21 2019, 09:42 AM)
Phew... I'm just relieved to have moved out of that toxic place. There was too much of cheating / illegal stuff going on last year that I just needed to walk away.

There is no HR since I left. I did my filing properly tho before I left.

Around RM2k, but I am willing to forgo it. I do not want any drama / issues related to the old company.

However, he has not paid EPF for the entire company since Jan 2019. Worried that he might try to skip on paying mine since I left.
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By the way, you can opt to file a complaint to labor office to get your EPF payment and 2k claim. I was expecting the claim to be less than RM300, but RM2000 you must get back as that's quite a sum for you. Don't let go your money. Must try to get back!
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post May 21 2019, 05:38 PM

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Is it possible to tender resignation using email?

Or do I need to provide hard copy version to the manager?
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post May 23 2019, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(hustlerism @ May 21 2019, 05:38 PM)
Is it possible to tender resignation using email?

Or do I need to provide hard copy version to the manager?
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You will need to send your resignation letter through an email to your immediate superior and CC to your HR.

After that, send each of them a hard copy as well. This is to protect your ka-cheng from being backfired.

This post has been edited by Belphegor: May 23 2019, 08:46 AM
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post May 23 2019, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ May 21 2019, 09:55 AM)
By the way, you can opt to file a complaint to labor office to get your EPF payment and 2k claim. I was expecting the claim to be less than RM300, but RM2000 you must get back as that's quite a sum for you. Don't let go your money. Must try to get back!
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Do not want to pursue further.

He actually went to my house to complain.

I hand over everything already to the office. I just want to cut ties and move on.
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ May 23 2019, 08:46 AM)
You will need to send your resignation letter through an email to your immediate superior and CC to your HR.

After that, send each of them a hard copy as well. This is to protect your ka-cheng from being backfired.
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Whats ka-cheng btw?
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post May 23 2019, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(shasit @ May 23 2019, 10:14 AM)
Do not want to pursue further.

He actually went to my house to complain.

I hand over everything already to the office. I just want to cut ties and move on.
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Is entirely up to you if you want to pursue, but the amount is quite a large sum thus I'd advice you to get your claims back. If you are fine with those claims being burned then is fine also.

QUOTE(hustlerism @ May 23 2019, 12:08 PM)
Whats ka-cheng btw?
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Ka-cheng is bekside. laugh.gif
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post May 23 2019, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ May 23 2019, 02:53 PM)
Is entirely up to you if you want to pursue, but the amount is quite a large sum thus I'd advice you to get your claims back. If you are fine with those claims being burned then is fine also.
Ka-cheng is bekside. laugh.gif
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Thanks for the info bruddah.

Will be handing my resignation letter to my manager soon.
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post May 23 2019, 04:58 PM

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Hi can i ask ,for confirmed sale staff of say ie. Basic rm2k, commission rm3k......2 months notice. But resign immediately without 2 months notice. Penalty is calculated as....

Basic x2mths ie rm4k or total salary rm3+rm3k=rm6k?

Tq ya
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post May 24 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(wayfeel @ May 23 2019, 04:58 PM)
Hi can i ask ,for confirmed sale staff of say ie. Basic rm2k, commission rm3k......2 months notice. But resign immediately without 2 months notice. Penalty is calculated as....

Basic x2mths ie rm4k or total salary rm3+rm3k=rm6k?

Tq ya
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Commission is not calculated in your basic. You only take basic and multiply by how many months of notice you need to serve.

In your case RM2000 (per month salary) x 2 months = RM4000
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ May 24 2019, 09:24 AM)
Commission is not calculated in your basic. You only take basic and multiply by how many months of notice you need to serve.

In your case RM2000 (per month salary) x 2 months = RM4000
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Thank you bro Belphegor . Wish u well there. Stil awaiting hehe
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hi guys, i've been working for 2 years with a shop as an assistant.
i've not given any offer letter nor any pay slip saying that i had worked in there.

few months back due to some issue i had resigned within 24 hours.

today i had receive a letter from the company request for compensation.

question:
1. does they had the right to claim as there are no formal contract signed (no offer letter signed)
2. they argue that since they had contribute epf, that's means that i had worked for them.

thank you for your input.
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QUOTE(rikimarumal @ Jul 16 2019, 11:35 PM)
*asking for a close relatives. 

hi guys, i've been working for 2 years with a shop as an assistant.
i've not given any offer letter nor any pay slip saying that i had worked in there.

few months back due to some issue i had resigned within 24 hours.

today i had receive a letter from the company request for compensation.

question:
1. does they had the right to claim as there are no formal contract signed (no offer letter signed)
2. they argue that since they had contribute epf, that's means that i had worked for them.

thank you for your input.
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Counter charge them for not providing offer letter for your relative to sign. Also, upon probation complete, did your relative sign/ receive any letter confirmation? If no then can use this way to argue that your relative thought he/she not a confirmed staff, thus can be leaving in shorter period.

But what's the reason your relative resign in such a short period? hmm.gif
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post Jul 18 2019, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Jul 18 2019, 09:08 AM)
Counter charge them for not providing offer letter for your relative to sign. Also, upon probation complete, did your relative sign/ receive any letter confirmation? If no then can use this way to argue that your relative thought he/she not a confirmed staff, thus can be leaving in shorter period.

But what's the reason your relative resign in such a short period? hmm.gif
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thanks for your feedback.

as per my relative statement, she's been threatened by the owner of the company, police report has been made.
and for the duration of work (2 years) she's has not been given any offer/confirmation letter to sign.

this is weird because after getting more information from her, actually the letter is from labor office requesting compensation from my relative....

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