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xpole
post Dec 26 2019, 09:47 PM

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Hi, I just want to ask, if I resign 24 hours, is it a good thing?

Let say if I can pay the notice period due to short notice resignation, does it affect my reputation in the industry I'm working currently?

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post Dec 27 2019, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(xpole @ Dec 26 2019, 09:47 PM)
Hi, I just want to ask, if I resign 24 hours, is it a good thing?

Let say if I can pay the notice period due to short notice resignation, does it affect my reputation in the industry I'm working currently?

Thanks
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Please follow according to your letter of offer. Whatever T&C you are not following, it can be used against you if the company decides to sue you.

If you can do pay in lieu, then should be fine but do check with your direct superior as handover might be tedious and they need time to find replacement.
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post Dec 27 2019, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(xpole @ Dec 26 2019, 09:47 PM)
Hi, I just want to ask, if I resign 24 hours, is it a good thing?

Let say if I can pay the notice period due to short notice resignation, does it affect my reputation in the industry I'm working currently?

Thanks
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Legally can, but not so nice to do.

Unless u some big shot, don't think will affect. Keep low profile and not let anyone know where is your new work place.
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post Dec 28 2019, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Dec 27 2019, 11:57 AM)
Please follow according to your letter of offer. Whatever T&C you are not following, it can be used against you if the company decides to sue you.

If you can do pay in lieu, then should be fine but do check with your direct superior as handover might be tedious and they need time to find replacement.
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Dec 27 2019, 05:52 PM)
Legally can, but not so nice to do.

Unless u some big shot, don't think will affect. Keep low profile and not let anyone know where is your new work place.
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Thanks for the advice. I will rethink again on my decision.
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post Jan 3 2020, 10:50 AM

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Hi I am unsure if this is the right channel.
Lets say if i resigned on January 3rd and I will have to serve 2 months notice till March, bonus is supposed to be out by the end of January, am I still eligible for the payout?
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post Jan 7 2020, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(xinmay @ Jan 3 2020, 10:50 AM)
Hi I am unsure if this is the right channel.
Lets say if i resigned on January 3rd and I will have to serve 2 months notice till March, bonus is supposed to be out by the end of January, am I still eligible for the payout?
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In common sense term; yes you are eligible for the bonus. However it is subject to your management if they want to release the bonus to you. Even if they don't give, you cannot do much as you resign before they give bonus payout. Usually is to resign after you get your bonus.
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post Jan 9 2020, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(xinmay @ Jan 3 2020, 10:50 AM)
Hi I am unsure if this is the right channel.
Lets say if i resigned on January 3rd and I will have to serve 2 months notice till March, bonus is supposed to be out by the end of January, am I still eligible for the payout?
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As far that I know, some companies will not give you a bonus once you have tendered resignation.
That's why many people throw a resignation letter once they received their bonus.
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post Jan 21 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(xinmay @ Jan 3 2020, 10:50 AM)
Hi I am unsure if this is the right channel.
Lets say if i resigned on January 3rd and I will have to serve 2 months notice till March, bonus is supposed to be out by the end of January, am I still eligible for the payout?
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Please resign AFTER you take the bonus, bonus is based on your performance in the past. My colleague want to get out early, even forgoing his bonus which 'suppose to be 10k', when exit interview time, HR ask why he didnt quit after bonus (even we know that the HR and MD are actors, always like to talk behind everyone's back, and promise are broken several times). Remember, your boss won't be grateful even if you donate your bonus. If you quit, kiamsiap boss probably just ghost you and drop your benefits immediately
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post Jan 30 2020, 10:25 AM

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A noob here. Just asking about a two-weeks notice with 5 remaining leave days. Say tender on 29 Jan, Wed, then last day should be 12 Feb, Wed, right? However with 5 leave days left, last day is 5 Feb, Wed? Correct?
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post Jan 30 2020, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Manny123 @ Jan 30 2020, 10:25 AM)
A noob here. Just asking about a two-weeks notice with 5 remaining leave days. Say tender on 29 Jan, Wed, then last day should be 12 Feb, Wed, right? However with 5 leave days left, last day is 5 Feb, Wed? Correct?
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by calculation ,yes that is right.

but final calculation, please seek from HR
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post Feb 1 2020, 09:22 AM

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Hi guys and respected sifus,

I been offered RM x,xxx amount of on paper, however been promised additional RM x,xxx making the final amount to be 5 figures after negotiating the salary. However there were some changes internally that made the additional income promised not applicable and I end up on the losing end.

Now other company willing to offer more than double of whatever I currently make however they keen for me to start now, as in 24 hour. Latest they have the standing offer is up to 1 month time.

Problem is, I bounded for 3 months notice period upon tendering my resignation letter.

Any possibility that I can waive the 3 months notice to be 1 month?

The main reason of leaving apart from money are internal politics and discretely - racism. But as the first post mentioned, I am not keen to write that down on paper.


Thank you in advance for all the input.

This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: Feb 1 2020, 09:26 AM
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post Feb 6 2020, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Feb 1 2020, 09:22 AM)
Hi guys and respected sifus,

I been offered RM x,xxx amount of on paper, however been promised additional RM x,xxx making the final amount to be 5 figures after negotiating the salary. However there were some changes internally that made the additional income promised not applicable and I end up on the losing end.

Now other company willing to offer more than double of whatever I currently make however they keen for me to start now, as in 24 hour. Latest they have the standing offer is up to 1 month time.

Problem is, I bounded for 3 months notice period upon tendering my resignation letter.

Any possibility that I can waive the 3 months notice to be 1 month?

The main reason of leaving apart from money are internal politics and discretely - racism. But as the first post mentioned, I am not keen to write that down on paper.
Thank you in advance for all the input.
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current company issue
- say u got offered 9000 on paper. the additional ones was it in black and white as well? If not you cannot do much since they verbal promise you only unless you did a recording.
- what was that change that cause the additional income not applicable?

potential opportunity
- Are you still currently serving your probation in current company? If yes I believe you can try to negotiate with the current company to release you due to promises were not delivered.
- What was being written in your offer letter?
- Worst case scenario is that you walk away after 1 month and they will pursue you with 2 months salary in lieu you owe them

I reckon if they do not release you early, try to negotiate you serve 1 month notice and give 1 month salary in lieu. Fair for both sides since they cannot deliver their promise and you still respect the offer letter and they need to find your replacement.
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post Mar 3 2020, 08:54 AM

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As an expat, can I suddenly resign if it affects my well-being (toxic workplace) and leave the country (with no intention of coming back)?
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post Mar 5 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(davidw89 @ Mar 3 2020, 08:54 AM)
As an expat, can I suddenly resign if it affects my well-being (toxic workplace) and leave the country (with no intention of coming back)?
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Well, they have your record. I am not so sure about expats so you gotta check with proper authority on this.
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post Apr 2 2020, 10:36 PM

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Hi,

I am planning to resign with my current company, however, on the Termination part of the contract this is what's written:

"You will provide the company with 3 months of advance notice of your resignation from employment. Nevertheless, in case you resign during the contractual period, you agree to pay the penalty of 1 month salary and all recruitment expenses".

Just want to verify if 3 months notice + 1 month salary + recruitment expenses is really allowed? coz its too much sad.gif

It's also my fault for signing too fast...

Thanks!
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post Apr 7 2020, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(nothingtodohere @ Apr 2 2020, 10:36 PM)
Hi,

I am planning to resign with my current company, however, on the Termination part of the contract this is what's written:

"You will provide the company with 3 months of advance notice of your resignation from employment. Nevertheless, in case you resign during the contractual period, you agree to pay the penalty of 1 month salary and all recruitment expenses".

Just want to verify if 3 months notice + 1 month salary + recruitment expenses is really allowed? coz its too much sad.gif

It's also my fault for signing too fast...

Thanks!
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You already signed, meaning you agreed to the terms and condition set by them no matter how unfair or unjust to you as employee.

If you want to leave during your contract period, pls pay up the 1 month salary + recruitment expenses and serve 3 months notice period.
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post Jun 16 2020, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(nothingtodohere @ Apr 2 2020, 10:36 PM)
Hi,

I am planning to resign with my current company, however, on the Termination part of the contract this is what's written:

"You will provide the company with 3 months of advance notice of your resignation from employment. Nevertheless, in case you resign during the contractual period, you agree to pay the penalty of 1 month salary and all recruitment expenses".

Just want to verify if 3 months notice + 1 month salary + recruitment expenses is really allowed? coz its too much sad.gif

It's also my fault for signing too fast...

Thanks!
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First time I heard that the staff need to pay for recruitment expenses if resign. Is this even legal? And i had never heard of paying 1 month of salary penalty on top of the notice period. If the contract requires a lot of monetary compensations when resigning, definitely do not sign the offer letter sad.gif

What is your decision on this?
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post Aug 21 2020, 12:26 PM

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Which one holds more weight, confirmation letter or offer letter? I have been working for 6 years, but havent received any confirmation letter, was only verbally confirmed.

I'm quitting soon, but the resignation notice in the offer letter is too long. If I quit, say a week notice, can they use it against me?
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post Aug 24 2020, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(cocoreo @ Aug 21 2020, 12:26 PM)
Which one holds more weight, confirmation letter or offer letter? I have been working for 6 years, but havent received any confirmation letter, was only verbally confirmed.

I'm quitting soon, but the resignation notice in the offer letter is too long. If I quit, say a week notice, can they use it against me?
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Which one holds more weight, confirmation letter or offer letter? I have been working for 6 years, but havent received any confirmation letter, was only verbally confirmed.
- since you do not have confirmation letter (assuming you work at a family owned business with no system), then in your case it is offer letter.
- confirmation letter only proves that you are confirmed as a permanent employee and some company will only allow employee benefits once confirmed. but in your case, again, dont need to fret about this.


I'm quitting soon, but the resignation notice in the offer letter is too long. If I quit, say a week notice, can they use it against me?
- resignation notice is usually 2 months for executives, 3 months for managerial post.
- if indeed you are leaving soon and serving short notice. then it is appropriate to pay back the current company equal to the amount of short notice. (ie if you are leaving 1 week early, then you have to pay back the 1 week salary as compensation)
- then again, it is better to negotiate with your current company on the best way to part way.
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post Aug 30 2020, 10:54 AM

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Hi guys.

I just want to ask about resignation period, if somebody here can help advise.

Currently I'm employed as a manager in a small SME company for more than 7 years now.
Previously right after MCO was announced in March, the company immediately decided to slash all employees' salary by 50% and force us to work only half of the total days per month.
The pay cut is still being implemented even now, without employees black & white consent.
Recently i have been seriously planning to resign and had casually ask HR about the tender notice required.
HR replied that as per contract i have to serve 3 months notice because I'm manager level.

But i wonder, if they cut my salary 50% doesn't that mean they have breached my employment contract? So do I still have to adhere to the 3 months notice period?

Btw I'm planning to give one month notice only no more no less. I'm not that heartless to give 24 hour notice.

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