ya you right but next project lah after sub

Yep...its outdated but still highly competent receiver. Btw, how much is the latest Denon AVR3808 series amp? Is it worth to upgrade just for the HD audio?

I knew. I owned Denon AVR2802 before. It was really a joy but the pricing for current Denon just make it out of my reach.

AVR3808 sld be near RM6K region since AVR2809 is abt RM4.8K

If you are planning to use PS3 to stream HD audio, then it should not be a problem coz it can decodes itself and transfer as multichannel to your old AVR. This way you are still get those HD audio signal.

But if plan to hook it up BD standalone player or Dvico HD media player, then I think should upgrade to HD support AVR, at very least is AVR-1909. Like they say, HD Audio compare to core audio is a huge difference even on a budget speaker set-up. Those hi-def sound will be much felt compare to HD-Audio which depends on your sitting distance or sizes of your HDTV to make a difference.

I think HTkaki should be able to comment on this as his Yammy Amp is frequently light up those Magical words feeds from Dvico.

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Added on April 30, 2009, 10:35 pmThis post has been edited by mikapoh: Apr 30 2009, 10:35 PM

Current Denon pricing is absurd. Anyway, i am primarily playing mkv with dts and dd audio only so no point to change yet and even if i decided to upgrade, i don't think it will be a denon anymore. Denon makes great amp they are just too complicated to operate. I would like to try out other AV receivers because I think they are all equally as good for much less.

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Added on April 30, 2009, 10:39 pmI don't think i would go for the AVR-1909 because that is a severe downgrade from 3805. The 3 series is a very different class from the 1 series.

This post has been edited by lightning69: Apr 30 2009, 10:39 PM

IMHO, Denon is not "complicated" to operate. The manual makes it more complicated to read. It is straight forward if you have been using an old AVr before. Most settings are done by Audyssey that comes with a mic.

It is true Denon is a bit pricey compare to other brands but its strength is the excellent separation and dynamic presentation across all channels. It main weakness is the slightly lower output compare to Onkyo.

It is true the 3 series is considered Denon mid-range products. Price wise is also a huge gap. I am using HD-support AVR-1909 and have been amazed by its dynamic presentation compared to my old school Marantz AVR. Even listening to FM station is enjoyable........cheers.

Agrees... aint that difficult to use.

Once you go the higher category AVR, there is no turning back. I agree with lightning69 on this. When I decided to upgrade my AVR2802, I looked for AVR2808, RX-V1800 and Onkyo 805.

Ended up wt 1800 due to freaking expensive price of 2808 at near to RM5K (at that time - July 08)

I am glad that you like your AVR1909. I'm very tempted to upgrade to those HD audio thingy, but so far not willing to pay for the high price of bluray movies. Will sick to my HD mkv collection for now...350movies and counting.

Htkaki..its time to consider the new Marantz amp now..hehehe
cheaper and just as good.

Me too.....very tempted to get my AVR to read those Magical words out of its large LCD panel at front. Thats why I say now hands get itchy to get the Tvix Dvico 6500 to stream the HD-Audio like what HTkaki is doing.....upgrade from WDTV. But at this moment, the 6500 is way too expensive. I am damn sure its price will dips sooner or later. Other than that, it is a joy to enjoy my WDTV feed to my Denon AVR-1909.

Wahlau, 350 hd movies! It is like a dream to me..... How can you download so lightening fast?

Anyway, you have to start collecting those un-touched BD ripped with HD-Audio around 30gbs at least. When ready, just grab the Dvico couple with HD support AVR, this is what I called TrueHD movie experience with those countless sources in your video library................

Rapidshare Premium 10Gb a day. So far my streamyx is going fast.

Untouch Bluray rip...30-40GB is a little overkill for me now.

I like my 1800. Wont be changing it to Marantz.

I prefer BD Rips. Still have a bunch of mkv in my collection. At the moment, 3.2TB of these. Probably need to get 5TB more.

So you're like me...BRrips only.

But HTkaki is getting 1:1 ripped. Those files are extremely space hungry. I think 5TB isnt enough to house your video library. Imagine you can only save around 30 full ripped ISO/m2ts file in 1TB HDD......scary.

Bro mikapoh, it is less than 30 movies in 1TB since most of it exceed 40GB/movie. But for mkv in 1TB, it's easily exceed 110movies.

Now, I have my softcopy as well as hardcopy. But, I am lazy to pop in those BD in my PS3. Then again, I like to see those 'magical words' on my AVR.

HTkaki, you are poisoning me.......

WHAT ?! 1 file can exceeds 40BG

You must be joking with such a HUGE file. BTW, did you do back-up all your huge video library? What if one day one of your hard disk crash? Then again, backing those files are also HUGE effort

I might think twice before I get my hands on movies with those magical words.....hehe.

Yes, we have a backup center , i.e the BD itself and HDDs

Yes, it is that huge for a movie. For instance, Hulk is 44.2GB, Die Hard 4.0 is 44.8GB, Ghost Rider is 48.7GB, Chris Botti is 40.18GB and HellBoy II is 43.78GB

Those sizes are for full bluray rip right?

Yes, bit to bit.

Denon made in japan AVR-3808A at S$1899 3 days only at Singapore this weekend.



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