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post Jan 27 2009, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 27 2009, 11:44 AM)
You already did the wrong thing by buying her a female and a male hamster. They will breed and keep on breeding till the female die from malnutrition or the male die from fighting with the defensive pregnant female because the male wanted to mate with the female. Also winter white are territorial hamster and you're suppose to keep 1 per tank/cage. There is always stress to hamster when there is another hamster in their territory.

Unless the winter white are siblings and have been kept together since young. Then there is a chance of keeping them together but remember same sex pair to keep them from breeding or in-breeding.


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i know i know. sad.gif the shopfella's fault la! she told me its ok to buy 1m 1 f. vmad.gif sad.gif sigh..
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post Jan 27 2009, 11:13 PM

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Hey guys, I'm about to be one female WW hamster aged 6months. Still waiting for the seller to get back and COD. Anything that I should look into once i get my new pal.?
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post Jan 27 2009, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jan 27 2009, 11:13 PM)
Hey guys, I'm about to be one female WW hamster aged 6months. Still waiting for the seller to get back and COD. Anything that I should look into once i get my new pal.?
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a large enough cage
running wheel
hamster food
suitable bedding
water bottle

recommended optionals:
sand bath
litter tray
additional hamster treats
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post Jan 28 2009, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(sharkie28 @ Jan 27 2009, 12:30 PM)
I read it in a hamster forum before called hamster heaven. unfortunately, the forum is no longer available. i'm very sure that other forums do have the info about that. and providing the link here might be against the rules(IDK). plus, i have to look through the whole website to search for it. but you can try wikipedia or other websites to get more info. they may be in small amounts. but, why take the risk.
(i'll PM you the link if i get to find them) Try wikipedia.

hope no one gets offended. i was just trying to help.
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Its not against the rules to post it here, feel free to share. I read about the chemical in Kaytee pet products in a Guinea pig forum, since Kaytee has Piggy products too. I still continue to feed Kaytee products tho, since Oxbow for piggys isnt available here yet, and other products have even worse and confirmed to be harmful ingredients inside. Of coz if u feel doubtful about a certain brand, just use another one. =)
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post Jan 28 2009, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 28 2009, 12:40 AM)
a large enough cage
running wheel
hamster food
suitable bedding
water bottle

recommended optionals:
sand bath
litter tray
additional hamster treats
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hmm..litter tray? how do i toilet train her?


Added on January 28, 2009, 10:27 amHey folks, i plan to get a ovo suite1, good enough for 1 WW?

This post has been edited by shanecross: Jan 28 2009, 10:27 AM
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post Jan 28 2009, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jan 28 2009, 09:19 AM)
hmm..litter tray? how do i toilet train her?


Added on January 28, 2009, 10:27 amHey folks, i plan to get a ovo suite1, good enough for 1 WW?
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Just ok for WW and expensive. Cleaning is also not easy as you need to take a part the whole thing. Have fun!
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:29 AM

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I rare WW for so many years. Putting them together of never experience any fight before except once. Yes indeed the female and male will continue to breed provided there is enough nutrition and space around. Once my WW gave to 9 in a litter, the male stopping mating with the female. What happens is when the female are still feeding the babies with the male around wants to mate the female it will cause a fight and sometimes the female got stuck esp in bar cages and one of them step on them will also cause a fight. I saw it with my own eyes.

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post Jan 28 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 28 2009, 11:33 AM)
Just ok for WW and expensive. Cleaning is also not easy as you need to take a part the whole thing. Have fun!
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what do you mean by ok ? OK as in just so so or just nice?
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jan 28 2009, 11:35 AM)
what do you mean by ok ? OK as in just so so or just nice?
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It's just ok for 1 WW but there a lot of cons with the Ovo Suite.
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:40 AM

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Ovo cage is nice for the hamster to play around but when it goes to cleaning it will be the worst part unless you're very free weekly to clean the cage.
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(tyliang @ Jan 28 2009, 11:29 AM)
I rare WW for so many years. Putting them together of never experience any fight before except once. Yes indeed the female and male will continue to breed provided there is enough nutrition and space around. Once my WW gave to 9 in a litter, the male stopping mating with the female. What happens is when the female are still feeding the babies with the male around wants to mate the female it will cause a fight and sometimes the female got stuck esp in bar cages and one of them step on them will also cause a fight. I saw it with my own eyes.
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I'm not going to get into this topic again.

But do know that in the wild, hamsters stay alone and will bump into each other to mate and/or fend off other hamsters from coming into their territory.

Yes they can stay together but not all of them can. It depends. Good luck.

Also know that the more times the female give birth, the shorter her life will be.


Added on January 28, 2009, 11:45 am
QUOTE(tyliang @ Jan 28 2009, 11:40 AM)
Ovo cage is nice for the hamster to play around but when it goes to cleaning it will be the worst part unless you're very free weekly to clean the cage.
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There is the bad ventilation. Poor water bottle design (small hamster can't reach). Accessories are expensive if you want to expand. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

The new Ovo Loft is a bit better with the ventilation.

To tell you the truth, Ovo are only attractive to us humans but not to the hamster.

This post has been edited by blurjoey: Jan 28 2009, 12:00 PM
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:49 AM

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Guess, i should stick with the regular cages then smile.gif better ventilation
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jan 28 2009, 11:49 AM)
Guess, i should stick with the regular cages then smile.gif better ventilation
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Don't get those metal cage as the hamster will bite on them. It will lead to rust poison.

Get a 1.5-2 feet plastic guppy tank.
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:54 AM

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Sounds like a good idea, but im curious, how do you fit the bottle in a guppy tank?
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post Jan 28 2009, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Jan 28 2009, 11:54 AM)
Sounds like a good idea, but im curious, how do you fit the bottle in a guppy tank?
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1 - Drill a hole. Use a suction cup and cable tie to the bottle on the outside of the tank.
2 - Use a suction cup and cable tie to the bottle on the inside of the tank.
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post Jan 28 2009, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 28 2009, 11:58 AM)
1 - Drill a hole. Use a suction cup and cable tie to the bottle on the outside of the tank.
2 - Use a suction cup and cable tie to the bottle on the inside of the tank.
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Or create a S-shape wire. Get a plastic net. Make it like a pipe. Tie it then fit the bottle into the net. Then hang it with the S shaped. The net pipe should be slightly smaller than the bottle. So it can hold the bottle.

1. Drilling may cause the tank to crack.
2. Suction cups will leave marks.
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post Jan 28 2009, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(tyliang @ Jan 28 2009, 12:14 PM)
Or create a S-shape wire. Get a plastic net. Make it like a pipe. Tie it then fit the bottle into the net. Then hang it with the S shaped. The net pipe should be slightly smaller than the bottle. So it can hold the bottle.

1. Drilling may cause the tank to crack.
2. Suction cups will leave marks.
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You will need to drill slowly to prevent cracks on the tank. You can also heat a screwdriver and melt a hole through.

Yes it does leave a mark but I wonder who is going to see the mark behind the suction cup?

Wouldn't the hamster able to climb the plastic pipe net around the bottle and chew on the cover? hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif The hamster can also chew on the metal wire and the plastic net. So make another when the hamster is done with it?

Every method have it's pros and cons. So depends on which you want to use.

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post Jan 28 2009, 04:22 PM

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-i wonder whether does anyone here knows any hamster breeders around KL or at least nearby?
-ok,the second question is abit random... ow many hamsters have you owned in the past? and which breed is your favourite?

EDIT: i was just surfing the net on hamster cages. then i made up my mind to like learn more about habitrail OVO cages. to be frank i think these cages aren't the best out there. they may look futuristic but those small confined spaces upsets me. they may look attractive., unfortunately we're not the one who's going to live in it. it is the poor little furballs that are.
i've got no idea why people go for those cages when there are many other choices like tanks,bin cages, good branded cages and etc...
so my question is: what do you think of habitrail and habitrail ovo cages? this question is not meant to be offensive. but why don't we share ideas so that our furry friends can have a comf life?


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post Jan 28 2009, 04:36 PM

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There are a few hamster breeders around in the garage sales.
Check there but it seems some have gone quiet.

2 robos (both gone)
11 syrians (5 still alive)
1 duprasi gerbil (still alive)

Syrians are the easiest to handle and tame.
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post Jan 28 2009, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jan 28 2009, 04:36 PM)
2 robos (both gone)
11 syrians (5 still alive)
1 duprasi gerbil (still alive)

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11 syrians?!! Wow~ blink.gif

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