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patryn33
post Dec 20 2009, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Dec 20 2009, 10:39 PM)
Nah I don't think I can afford thisĀ  tongue.gif So I guess am gonna live with homageĀ  biggrin.gif
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lol... great design...
wonder how much will a chinese homage like this cost.. ~ under US$100 my guess

swiss movement this looks good but so expensive
http://gnomonwatches.com/DievasVintageKampfschwimmerS.html

this also not cheap
http://davidsen-hommagewatch.blogspot.com/

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post Dec 20 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Dec 20 2009, 11:29 PM)
lol... great design...
wonder how much will a chinese homage like this cost.. ~ under US$100 my guess

swiss movement this looks good but so expensive
http://gnomonwatches.com/DievasVintageKampfschwimmerS.html
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Spot on patryn33 rclxms.gif
USD100 Chinese vs USD400 Swiss
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:48 PM

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interestingly.. chinese movement cost US$40, swiss around US$130..
price diff so big... cost of labor must be a big factor.. quality a factor too... I wonder..


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post Dec 21 2009, 07:48 AM

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i have posted maurice lacroix masterpiece squelette at www.limautambun.blogspot.com . Maybe today i'll write a story related to that timepiece.
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post Dec 21 2009, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(twom @ Dec 21 2009, 07:48 AM)
i have posted maurice lacroix masterpiece squelette at www.limautambun.blogspot.com . Maybe today i'll write a story related to that timepiece.
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just curious, do u own all the time pieces posted on your blog?
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post Dec 21 2009, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(twom @ Dec 21 2009, 07:48 AM)
i have posted maurice lacroix masterpiece squelette at www.limautambun.blogspot.com . Maybe today i'll write a story related to that timepiece.
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nice vintage watches u got there wink.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 12:08 PM

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Yes. All the vintage and pre-owned watches including some new ones are from our family's collections.

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post Dec 21 2009, 12:30 PM

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seem like U are into selling/trading watches.
however I didn't find any selling price, only retail price are quoted.
interested party email u to get a quote?
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QUOTE(twom @ Dec 21 2009, 12:08 PM)
Yes. All the vintage and pre-owned watches including some new ones are from our family's collections.
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i think i'm a sucker for contemporary watches. i js cant find myself drool over vintage watches tongue.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 02:10 PM

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hello! im new to watch collecting, about to graduate to my 1st auto watch. I have 2k-3k budget, and have been pretty keen on victorinox, hamilton, ball and fortis. u guys think theres any from these models that can suit my budget?
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post Dec 21 2009, 02:24 PM

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perhaps you can try certina (example as below):
http://www.certina.com/Collection/Gent-Aut...Valgranges.aspx

i belive the price would suit your budget perfectly (~myr2-3k), is swiss made (although not a luxury watchmaker), and has decent, classic designs.
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Dec 21 2009, 12:30 PM)
seem like U are into selling/trading watches.
however I didn't find any selling price, only retail price are quoted.
interested party email u to get a quote?
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Yes, if you're really keen, you can always make an offer.
If the price is right, I'll be glad to let go the watch to you.
I'm in the process of upgrading my collections.


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post Dec 21 2009, 02:38 PM

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do you guys have any recommended websites which i can read up about watches? whether it be basic or advanced level..
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post Dec 21 2009, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(fauzul hazwan @ Dec 21 2009, 02:10 PM)
hello! im new to watch collecting, about to graduate to my 1st auto watch. I have 2k-3k budget, and have been pretty keen on victorinox, hamilton, ball and fortis. u guys think theres any from these models that can suit my budget?
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That's a lot to choose from for your budget. Try as much as possible and choose one that's sing to you.
Happy hunting rclxms.gif

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do you guys have any recommended websites which i can read up about watches? whether it be basic or advanced level..
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Try read up the forums:-

http://forums.watchuseek.com/
http://forums.timezone.com/
http://tamhk.com/mwf/index.php
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post Dec 21 2009, 03:18 PM

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[QUOTE]perhaps you can try certina (example as below):
http://www.certina.com/Collection/Gent-Aut...Valgranges.aspx

hello r3kahsttub
i took a look at the certina, very nice! suits my taste quite well. What are its special features? do you know the price for it?

i have been reading this forum from the very 1st thread until now, i still dont understand the grey market stuff. Is it genuine watches? patryn33 pmed me and suggested a hamilton from a grey market, i peeped into hamilton website and found pretty nice ones. i am interested to get a hamilton from a grey market, but im worried about the authenticity, and after sales services. another matter that im confused about is are these grey market are just on the net, or are there some brick and mortar watch sellers that is a part of the grey market?

be great if anyone here can give me a crash course on auto watches..
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QUOTE(twom @ Dec 21 2009 @ 07:48 AM)
i have posted maurice lacroix masterpiece squelette at www.limautambun.blogspot.com . Maybe today i'll write a story related to that timepiece.
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Nice ML you got there thumbup.gif But the price for the ML in-house movement is like shakehead.gif
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post Dec 21 2009, 10:14 PM

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do you guys have any recommended websites which i can read up about watches? whether it be basic or advanced level..
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other sources
http://www.iwmagazine.com/archives.cfm
http://www.europastar.com/europastar/index.jsp


Added on December 21, 2009, 10:31 pm
QUOTE(fauzul hazwan @ Dec 21 2009, 02:10 PM)
hello! im new to watch collecting, about to graduate to my 1st auto watch. I have 2k-3k budget, and have been pretty keen on victorinox, hamilton, ball and fortis. u guys think theres any from these models that can suit my budget?
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a high of 3k budget, may get U a lowest end Ball with a leather strap. the design may not be your liking (I assume U are a young man in early 20s)

Fortis maybe only the Pilot Professional Day/Date 40mm.

swiss army/victorinox should get u a nice wide range. anything but the Chrono
http://www.swissarmy.com/timepieces/Pages/...ory=mechanical&

Hamilton pretty much same with swiss army, however U should be able to afford a auto Chrono.

other brands to look at, Mido, Epos, Louis Erard, Longines (maybe conquest collection, hydroconquest collection, spirit in leather)
http://www.timepiecestore.com/catalog/loui...a-sportive.html


Added on December 21, 2009, 10:34 pm
QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Dec 21 2009, 02:24 PM)
perhaps you can try certina (example as below):
http://www.certina.com/Collection/Gent-Aut...Valgranges.aspx

i belive the price would suit your budget perfectly (~myr2-3k), is swiss made (although not a luxury watchmaker), and has decent, classic designs.
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this exact model? can buy at 3k? so good deal... better than grey market prices.
http://www.amazon.com/Certina-Watches-Podi...0/dp/B001W6WPMM


Added on December 21, 2009, 10:56 pm
QUOTE(fauzul hazwan @ Dec 21 2009, 03:18 PM)
i have been reading this forum from the very 1st thread until now, i still dont understand the grey market stuff. Is it genuine watches? patryn33 pmed me and suggested a hamilton from a grey market, i peeped into hamilton website and found pretty nice ones. i am interested to get a hamilton from a grey market, but im worried about the authenticity, and after sales services. another matter that im confused about is are these grey market are just on the net, or are there some brick and mortar watch sellers that is a part of the grey market?
grey market watches, usually over supply of watches... AD couldn't get rid of them so sell them off cheaply, usually older models. They do not carry any factory warranty. grey market dealers often times offer U the after sales service. Some grey market dealer would remove the serial number off the watch, but today hardly done now. anything on ebay is also considered grey market.

local pre-own and grey market dealer
http://www.collectorstime.com/
http://www.orolus.com/about/index.shtml

not sure how many ppl out there actually make fake Hamilton, Fortis, Swiss Army, at least I have yet to find any.. although I have seen fake Tissot for some reason.
retailer on bing.com should be pretty safe to deal with.
I had dealt with thewatchery, overstock and things check out fine.

FYI: a Valjoux 7750 movement already cost US$440. asian clone maybe US$80 not sure how worth it to make a fake to sell for US$200. can google replica watch and see what the kind of things ppl fake.

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post Dec 21 2009, 11:02 PM

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i don't know how to read that; sarcasm, or being a wise-ass. sorry.

anyway; to clarify on my statement; no. you cannot get a DS podium valgrance for myr2.5-3k. however, you can get a DS1 for within the stated budget,

matter of fact, this DS1 (ref: C006.407.16.081.00) is under myr3k before discounts:
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post Dec 21 2009, 11:02 PM

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For Mido, ML, Certina, Epos, Louis Erard, Frederique Constant, Titoni, Vulcain, Rado, Edox, Luminox (Quartz, Except for few models), Doxa, and Vulcain, just let me know which model do you like, and if my suppliers have that specific model that you like, I can sms you my agreed price and then if you agreed with the price, make the payment and I will courier the purchased watch using Nationwide/DHL(shipping cost for phweee) it to you guys.
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QUOTE(r3kahsttub @ Dec 21 2009, 11:02 PM)
i don't know how to read that; sarcasm, or being a wise-ass. sorry.

anyway; to clarify on my statement; no. you cannot get a DS podium valgrance for myr2.5-3k. however, you can get a DS1 for within the stated budget,

matter of fact, this DS1 (ref: C006.407.16.081.00) is under myr3k before discounts:
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i assume u are writing the above to me. anyway, i wasnt being sarcastic, i really liked the watch, and i think u and i have the same taste. do u think i can get it for under 3k?

to patryn33
yup, im in my early 20s, just started my career recently, havent finished study yet tho.. i have been wanting to own a true mechanical swiss watch for so long, and since my bday coming up soon, looking to give myself a nice bday present.. been studying the pages of this forum to get more knowledge, and it seems the more i read the less i know what u guys are talking about.. haha. u seem to be one of the most knowledgeable here, mind giving me some tutorials on watches, movements, design, and all.. i really dont know where to start..

to all forumners,
hello! im a guy in my early 20s, and i want to take up watch collection as my hobby. my dream watch for now is a panerai, think i will be able to get it in 10 years? haha
anyway, i would welcome any tips, info and insights from all of you. Thanks in advance!

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