*SPOILERS*

Okay here's my take on the movie





This post has been edited by Claire Farron: Jun 9 2012, 02:47 AM

BTW, I found this like 2 moths ago but just copypasted it on notepad to avoid spoilers, I opened it after watching the movie and a lot of things are spot on correct, lucky I didn't read it when i first found it

Wow can u pls give the sauce for this spoiler?

I found it on the Television and Films board of 4chan, but my bad not 2 months ago, it's actually 1 month ago

http://archive.foolz.us/tv/thread/22891750/#22893005

btw,the movie totally suck at the end,or consider total suck

basically this movie consider as



This post has been edited by marcus20125: Jun 9 2012, 09:34 AM

Didn't she said at the beginning, if the Engineers created humans, who created the Engineers?

This post has been edited by Claire Farron: Jun 9 2012, 09:39 AM

not arguing,just asking

so what she believe in?Engineers?God?herself?Jesus?btw,if I am not mistaken,Jesus consider human being(before),right?

or I should say she believe in God,cause God create Engineers,Engineers create human include Jesus

I think she has to go find God,not Engineers



This post has been edited by marcus20125: Jun 9 2012, 09:53 AM

Yeah I'm guessing it's like that,

Or it could be like this, remember that dream with her father?
when her father said that his God is diffrent from those people's God at the funeral, and when asked why, his father said something like "Because it's what I choose to believe"
That's what Elle does, through out the movie, Elle was probably still in doubt, like 50/50 whether or not her Christian God is real or not,
but after seeing all those bad things the engineer did, wanting to destroy Earth, killing people and all, she just came to conclusion that these Engineers can't be her creator/god, so in the end she said sorry to God for ever distrusting God as creator, because that's what she chooses to believe.

but that's just my theory though

It's NOT a PREQUEL!

Geez... nobody really stayed on towards the end CREDITS!!!

Already mention that this movie is "based on the elements of Dan O' Bannon and Ronald Shushett"!!!

Even Ridley himself said its not entirely based on the Prequel and veering away from the original Alien series!

It kinda is a prequel though. You can't deny the multiple connection it has to the Alien franchise, what with the gratuitous last shot, the space jockeys, the facehuggers, the acid blood, etc. The other half of the movie wants to be standalone.

In certain ways, there are similarities, but in truth it isn't. At the beginning, it was meant to be a prequel but Ridley wanted it to veer away from the Alien series and make changes to certain things. That is why the design or the facehuggers were much more bigger (octopus like, if you ask me with tentacles compared to the original, which was fingers), the acid blood didn't played too much of it and some changes in the Alien design when it burst out from the chest of the Engineer.

Need to remind others - in Alien, the dead "Engineer" (or Space Jockey) was seated in the navigation room with its chest bust outwards but in Prometheus, it was in the other lifeboat instead.

Let's look at it this way - happen in the same universe but if it goes in a different direction. Much like the upcoming "Spider-Man" series - happen in a different way in "The Amazing Spider-Man" and not in "Spider-Man" series but in the same universe too. Is "Prometheus" a reboot of the Alien series? Who knows... could be but Ridley is not telling, maybe he felt like doing "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" for that matter and steering it away from "Planet of the Apes" series but also happen in the same universe. Multiple connection, but in a different way but does not mean it serves as a "prequel"

But in the end - it boils down to what this movie based on, which was at the end credits that shown "based on the elements...". Even when I saw "Based on the alien elements of H.R. Giger" I was surprised by it, in other words... it was never served as a prequel but just based upon certain elements of the original Alien series, and nothing to do with it...

i think it has been explained that they're not even on the same planet. prometheus is set on LV-223, a satellite (moon) to a larger planet. alien and aliens were set in LV-426, a different planet. what this film established is that, the space jockey is an star faring race dating millions (if not billions) of years.

the space jockeys may have developed the xenomorphs as a self-evolving bio weapon that could adapt itself to kill/destroy/annihilate any biological lifeform. after acquiring sufficient genetic material, the xenomorphs evolves to become into a more lethal form within a single generation. this is evident in aliens resurrection, where it absorbed a lot of ripley's DNA and evolved into a very humanoid form (with facial features, 5 digits instead of 6, a womb and so on) within a single generation. the same happened in aliens vs predator (ending sequence).

the only thing that doesnt click in aliens vs predator is that, if the evolution took place late 21st century, then how did the alien queen get in the antartics in the early 21st century? this is why most alien fans agree that aliens vs predator is not canon. but prometheus surely is.

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Added on June 9, 2012, 11:19 amwhen he said it wasnt a prequel, he meant prequel to the alien series. but it's still set in the same universe. more like a spinoff.

something like 'x-men origins: wolverine' is not a prequel to the x-men trilogy, but it's still set in the same universe.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Jun 9 2012, 11:19 AM

There are still those that thinks its a direct sequel to the original Alien franchise but not reading up to the view and intentions of them creators.

About AVP (which I do dread it a lot), the Alien Queen itself likely happen to be there, captured by Predators for laying egg purpose for Predators to hunt. Remember - when AVP was an idea by FOX, the project was seriously given to James Cameron but he rejected it (and we all know why) and FOX still greenlit it to make it into a film (those money, greedy corporations). The idea was that they wanted to explore the origins of how Weyland came about - maybe saying the Alien and Predator is much more older but to no point of origin yet but intentions of saying this has been going on for eons.

I felt AVP series in some ways tries to connect it to the Alien series but in a dumb way how FOX thinks audience are dumb and would accept it...

Which boils down to what you said early of what doesn't click at all but then, even so, the beginning of Prometheus explains how one of the Engineers took the black goo and died (just like how Holloway got it too) but also fertilize Earth and creates life - first creation of human beings based on their DNA strains. This is really playing around the minds of the audience of this new mythology of what was meant to be something else and not connected to the Alien series but a new beginning veering away from the original series.

I think it's clear that its not a tradition prequel in the sense that it doesn't directly connect to the Alien franchise i.e. different planets, space jockeys, ships etc. But i can't be bothered digging up every interviews and production notes, so my question is ..

Is it really a canon taking place in an entirely alternate universe or is it still taking place in the same constant universe as the Alien franchise ?

The film itself could still easily fit into the Alien universe and timeline, but at the same it could also be a canon. So which is it ?

Prometheus pre-dates the first Alien, and has a number of key scenes that either relate directly or explain elements in Alien. I think that qualifies it as a quasi prequel.

SPOILERS

It is clear to me that the large facehugger and the xenomorph in the parting shot are early variants of the facehuggers and xenomorphs we see in the later films.

These aliens have similar traits with the black goo they (probably) came from, in that they are able to splice their own DNA and the hosts DNA to create something new and aggressive. The first alien in Alien (Kane's son) came from a human being and this stood on its hind legs. The xenomorph in Alien3 ran on all fours as it came from an ox/dog. Similarly, the xenomorph that came from the albino would look different because it gestated in a different organism.

does it matter if it is prequel , same universe or what not, the movie just weak. stop arguing, people lie all the time, even scott can lie in that credit just to make things more interesting.

Who's arguing?

Is this the soundtrack that everyone say doesn't fit with the scene it's used with?


It reminds me a lot of Space Odyssey opening soundtrack

Question: Why did David deliberately mixed Holloway's drink with that black liquid? Was it Weyland's orders to test the effects of the liquid on human life form?

Question: Why the whole idea of create mankind and then destroying them?

Yep could be because it was Weyland's orders,
another reason could be because when David asked Holloway, "How far would you go to understand your creators?", and Holloway replies "All the way"(something like that can't remember precisely), so David took it that Holloway was willing to do anything, so he decides to give him that drink as a first step for him to find out more about his creators(Engineers).

BTW you guys should read some of the stuffs here:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/faq

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/board/nest/200177706

Lots of good theories there.

This post has been edited by Claire Farron: Jun 9 2012, 03:38 PM