None of the Alien movies need updating, just like all of the old great movies. And an origin story is rarely a good idea. I hope they dont go down that road. And who the hell is that director?

Dude, subtitles for alien language will be the lamest thing in the series.

Indeed. Do we REALLY need to know all this? I'll watch the movie for sure, but at the moment I'm very skeptical of it. Ridley's recent work doesn't impress me, and all this talk about the new one being faster-paced and shot in 3D worries me.

Totally. I love this minimalistic slowburner to bits. Okay, the alien suit looked dated (good thing you rarely see it), but that aside it hasn't aged one bit. On the other hand, Aliens clearly looks like it belongs in the 80's.

This post has been edited by QuickFire: Sep 5 2010, 08:40 PM

While I love Aliens, I feel Cameron partially destroyed what made the first Alien so terrifying by showing how easy it was to kill one with guns. So as far as I'm concerned, the only authentic Alien movie is the first. But the second makes for a superb action-horror movie, albeit one that hasn't aged well. I even like Alien3, which goes back to the roots of the first film by having only one alien stalking the victims. Too bad the direction, while slick, is too MTV-ish for an Alien movie. I wouldn't mind seeing Fincher tackle an Alien movie again, without interference from the studio.

The biggest culprit I think is that the sets in Aliens simply weren't very good. I'm not sure if they looked that good even when it first came out, but they damn sure don't stand the test of time. The armored personnel vehicle just looks flimsy now. The exterior shots are mostly rubbish. I don't get the feeling I'm looking at a real planet instead of a set (Alien3 got the outdoors look down in a different yet perfect way). As masterelr said, the only things that looks old in Alien are the computers and the man-in-suit Alien (it must said though, that one shot near the end where we see the Alien lying down in the escape ship and it proceeds to slowly extend and retract its inner jaw is one damn good shot, it looks really organic and somehow feels perverse). Aliens is a movie you will say "hey it looks damn good in its time". Alien is one where you say "hey it looks damn fine even now".

I dont buy that people now won't like Alien just because they know how the Alien looks like. The first alien, while being entirely about a hostile alien lifeform, was never about showing the audience said lifeform. That is why it worked so well. Aliens broke that rule and ran off with its own. It wont surprise me if the younger generation (my generation) cant appreciate a film like Alien, the same reason why it doesnt surprise me how well-loved the Transformers movies are, but show it to someone who actually knows good movies, no matter the age, and I doubt he or she wont be able to at least appreciate it. Hell, I liked Aliens a lot more than Alien when I was a kid, there was even a time when I called Alien boring. I know now I was wrong.



This post has been edited by QuickFire: Sep 6 2010, 03:57 PM

Ah kobe, always the crudest person in the forum

Anyway, she's not bad looking, but I'm unable to see any acting pedigree from Gemma, and I'm bored stiff of all her roles. Hopefully she just gets a minor part and dies.

But to be serious, I wouldn't want unnecessary nudity in an Alien movie. God I really want something that comes close to the first film. Nothing like it exists today. It's simply bygone filmmaking especially for horror movies.

He started it!

WTF!

I dont think Alien Resurrection is as bad as they say it is, but it clearly is the worst Alien movie... until AvP came out.

This post speaks the truth.

And as for Avatar...

I watched Resurrection last week, and followed up with Alien and Aliens over the weekend.

Resurrection was worse than I remembered. Maybe they had some balls trying to make a revisionist Alien movie or whatever, but it was poor movie with poor ideas with a few good scenes. And the cast of characters we are stuck with is by far the worst of any Alien movie. I hated all of them, including the new Ripley.

Alien. Well not much can be said anymore. It's just a classic. If only they had shown even less of the alien itself, I would have called it perfect. Most of the scenes with the Alien stand up very well today (better than all the sequels in fact), but the last scene with the alien dangling off the escape shuttle always bugged me because of how fake it looked. I also wished the little chestburster alien didn't just scamper off on a skateboard. But heck, everything else is perfect. A marvel of slowburning, slowbulding terror. The alien might not appear often, but it is omnipresent. Visuals look superb, interior shots of the ship are mesmerizing. First 5 minutes of total silence (except for Goldsmith's great score) is almost unseen of today, culminating with the scene of the crew waking up from hypersleep. You have some of the most naturalistic performances ever seen in a movie. You have the best development and presentation of a facehugger in any of the movies. You have some great sci-fi elements in there. And really, only in the first film is the Alien actually a truly mysterious being. All the sequels degraded this aspect of the alien. Here we know absolutely very little about it, and the movie plays right along to that. We don't know how it grows to be so large in a few hours. We don't know its lifespan. We don't know why it is resting in the end. Is it sleeping? Is it dying? We don't know. Hence, truly an ALIEN. It is also only here that the alien has a kind of sexual trait to it. The facehugger rape has never been more disturbing, and the way the alien approached Lambert is well... up to interpretation. Suffice to say there are sexual overtones to it. All of these are some of the reasons why I consider the alien in the first movie to be the best ever portrayed, and the sequels in one aspect or more diminish it.

Aliens. I loved this as a kid, but the more I watch it the less impressive it is. The first movie has natural performances for normal, very realistic characters. Those have been replaced by action figures spouting (admittedly entertaining) action hero lines. A lot of the build up consists of banter between characters. For sure it's entertaining, but it's a far cry from the delicate and subtle presentation of the first film. It's all gungho now, and all of a sudden we see the aliens aren't that scary anymore we can kill them with guns! Not to mention Giger's original alien design is superior. I prefer the phallic smooth head rather than Cameron's ridged head. The Bluray picture quality looks absolutely stunning, but it doesn't do any favours to how dated the aliens look, especially when they are moving during action scenes. Of course, despite the datedness, the action, always Cameron's forte, delivers. From the 90th-ish minute mark onwards it's all awesome action. And then there's also the majestic Queen, which is just plain monstrosity. All in all I still think this is a great movie, and I don't really regret such a departure in tone from the first, but it is unquestionably inferior to the first.

This post has been edited by QuickFire: Oct 12 2010, 10:41 AM

PG-13. Sign of doom right there. An Alien movie isn't an Alien movie without an Alien punching a hole in someone's cranium with its secondary jaw.

To preserve his (its) identity would be the most logical answer. I dont need another explanation.

Also, I'm probably among the minority but I think Weaver doesn't look bad at all in Alien. She got manlier in the sequels.

Hmm I like that poster, but who is that at the bottom? The way she stands is kinda sexy, definitely not a vibe I want coming off the poster for an ALIEN movie.

OK I'm officially psyched about this. The trailer looks really good, and the sets.... hell yes. Looks like Ridley wants to replicate the look of the original Alien.

That said, I do have some concerns regarding the big action spectacle scenes with CGI. I hope the movie isn't littered with it, as that would definitely detract from the ALIEN experience. I want the slow crawling pace of the original please!

Well she has a bit of that Sigourney Weaver vibe around her, although she doesn't have that classic Weaver motherly trait. There's a shot of a character's head upside down in the trailer, I think it was right after the title PROMETHEUS is fully revealed. Anyone else think that shot resembles Ripley? Was that Rapace's face?

Two thirds of the movie will be slow atmospheric greatness ala the first Alien. It then all hinges on how good the last act will be, the obviously grand, slam bang finale with the admittedly great-looking CGI. This last act will determine if this is a great movie or a merely decent one.

From the looks of the teaser anyway.

Interesting clip, although I can't say it was particularly well directed, especially for an ALIEN feature. The camera was always-moving, and the whole thing was too glitzy to work in the original ALIEN moody atmosphere. Guy Pearce was very good, as always.

Exciting stuff indeed. With hype like this, this is either going to be the best film this year or a disappointment.

And I think it's becoming quite clear that Noomi Rapace is the lead in this. It figures, with her being rather similar in looks with Weaver ("girl who kicks ass"). Unless of course Ridley pulls the same trick he did in 1979 and we have a surprise protagonist.

Maybe Noomi's character is related to Ripley?

The new international trailer, which is much better than the US trailer in terms of tone.

Clip has Kubrick vibes, especially the sterile environment and lighting.