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post Dec 5 2008, 08:48 AM, updated 18y ago

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Nintendo's Wii has soaring profits, while Sony loses money on every Playstation 3 sold.


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Better, brighter, faster games--and perhaps more profits--are in Nintendo's future

Hardcore gamers may still scoff at Nintendo's Wii for catering to casual gamers. But hidden behind its Clark Kent facade are some impressive financial muscles.

Nintendo rocked the gaming world when it brought out the Wii gaming console three years ago by turning an entirely new demographic of users on to gaming. Middle-aged and senior citizens stood in line to buy Wiis on the strength of games like Wii Fit, which audiences found more fun than workout DVDs.

To date, Nintendo has sold nearly 35 million Wiis, including 12.6 million in the U.S., Nintendo's biggest market. That's lower than Sony's PlayStation 2, which has sold 43 million units since 2000. But it's still pretty high for a console that, at launch, was technologically a generation behind its chief competitors, Sony's PlayStation 3, with 13 million units in users' living rooms, and Microsoft's Xbox 360, with 23 million units. This year, the Wii is expected to sell more than the best-selling PS2 sold in its best year, 2003.

Just as interesting as how Nintendo has changed the gaming world, however, has been its business approach. Nintendo sells games along the time-honored razor-razor blade model, namely pushing out the console and then enticing users to buy more games.

"More casual players aren't as likely to be attracted by hardware features, so it's all about delivering a fun, easy-to-use and addicting game experience," says Anita Frazier, toy and video game analyst at NPD Group.

Another factor in enticing those casual users is keeping its console cheap. "The key thing about Nintendo is they want their things to be at price points that anyone can respond to," says Hiroshi Kamide, director of research at KBC Securities Japan. Nintendo's strategy is to buy inexpensive components instead of making them in-house, allowing the Wii to sell for $260 while the PS3 costs $300.

But here's the winning point: Unlike its competitors, Nintendo has figured out how to make money from its console sales. Sony loses money on each Playstation sold. Microsoft might just break even. But every Wii brings in $6 of operating profit for Nintendo, says David Gibson, an analyst at Macquarie Securities.

Nintendo also sells 60% of Wii games itself, compared with 30% for Microsoft and 15% for Sony. Wii users are expected to buy the most games this year, 220 million, compared with 120 million PS3 games and 125 million for the Xbox 360.

The top three Wii games--"Wii Play," "Super Smash Brothers Brawl" and "Super Mario Galaxy"--are all Nintendo's own titles, but the top three for PS3--"Grand Theft Auto IV," "Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare" and "Assassin's Creed"--are all from outside developers, not from Sony.

By making most of its games itself, Nintendo risks sacrificing the chance to earn licensing fees from as many third-party developers as its competitors. It also prices games cheaper--at $50 versus $60 for the other two consoles. But so far the gambit has paid off: Wii locks in fans because many of its most popular games appear exclusively on the Wii. And Nintendo has a higher gross margin on game software than the others at 65%, compared with between 50% and 60%.

Those only-available-here games sell better than games that have been ported to other consoles because the Wii's unique features--the motion-sensor remote, for instance--make it hard to translate into other systems. PS3 and Xbox 360 games can be ported between those two systems fairly easily, but developers that want to make a game for all three consoles need a dedicated Wii team to write the Nintendo version.

Ubisoft's new "Shaun White Snowboarding" game, which shipped in late November, uses the Wii Fit motion board to simulate full-motion snowboarding; its Xbox and PS versions push online virtual snowboarding with friends.


http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/wii-s-...-motion/1270287


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post Dec 5 2008, 09:19 AM

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Wii rocks, i love it. many titles i like such as super mario galaxy and mario kart wii.must buy if have budget nod.gif


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QUOTE(colt_508 @ Dec 5 2008, 09:18 AM)
another selling thread reporting doh.gif
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post Dec 5 2008, 09:46 AM

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Can Wii playing BD movies ? n00b here...
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 5 2008, 09:46 AM)
Can Wii playing BD movies ? n00b here...
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Hi, No I don't think wii can play Bd movies
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QUOTE(colt_508 @ Dec 5 2008, 09:18 AM)
another selling thread reporting doh.gif
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I don't see anything wrong with console selling thread if we can discuss it maturely.

The problem we had before is ppl spamming the thread which leads to it being closed.

For me, I always follow the monthly (USA) and weekly (Japan) sales figure as I have interest on how my console is doing.

While most of you would say who cares about the sales happening in places thousand of miles away I beg to differ. If a console is not getting the majority of the pie, (Saturn, Gamecube, PS3) the game developer would rather not invest on making games on that console or they would make it multi console (Lose bragging rights from some ppl, i.e. FF13 tongue.gif ). God forbid, the console maker would stops making consoles at all. Dreamcast for example.
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I have a Wii, now where's my money Nintendo? vmad.gif
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 5 2008, 09:46 AM)
Can Wii playing BD movies ? n00b here...
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i play BD movies with my BD player aka PS3.
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QUOTE(3rotor @ Dec 5 2008, 10:44 AM)
i play BD movies with my BD player aka PS3.
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same here...hahah... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 5 2008, 09:46 AM)
Can Wii playing BD movies ? n00b here...
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You are Wii n00b but Peeassthree expert rclxms.gif .

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well, wii have the best controller that non other console game have.
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QUOTE(nothen_fool @ Dec 5 2008, 11:21 AM)
well, wii have the best controller that non other console game have.
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"well, wii have the best controller gimmick that non other console game have."

Fixed!

But until Wii Motion Plus comes out, Nintendo still don't have 1:1 true motion controls.
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Well, that is the Motion Plus stands true to it's sentiments as advertised. I feel a little skeptical if you ask me.
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 5 2008, 09:52 AM)
I don't see anything wrong with console selling thread if we can discuss it maturely.

The problem we had before is ppl spamming the thread which leads to it being closed.

For me, I always follow the monthly (USA) and weekly (Japan) sales figure as I have interest on how my console is doing.

While most of you would say who cares about the sales happening in places thousand of miles away I beg to differ. If a console is not getting the majority of the pie, (Saturn, Gamecube, PS3) the game developer would rather not invest on making games on that console or they would make it multi console (Lose bragging rights from some ppl, i.e. FF13 tongue.gif ). God forbid, the console maker would stops making consoles at all. Dreamcast for example.
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I still remember when you and i duked out with one another about this exact same thing months back :haha:

Game sales, Console sales...and went on for through so many pages :haha:...anyway i dont mind the Wii gets good sales..
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ooo, this would be good.

*brings out the popcorn*
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QUOTE(nothen_fool @ Dec 5 2008, 11:21 AM)
well, wii have the best controller that non other console game have.
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even my gf would said this "what wii for my birthday , come-on"..
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I am just waiting for self-profess "hardcore gamers" to come in to preach to innocents gamers that were conned by Nintendo's fad, gimmicky Wii console.

"Wii is a fad!!!"
"Wii is for sissy / kiddie / girls / housewives / grandma / fat ppl..."
they will proclaimed.

"Wii is not for hardcore gamers!"
"Wii destroyed the gaming community!"
"Wii has no hardcore games!"
they will cry.

Oh the hardcore gamers are so predictable.
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LIGHT! CAMERA! AANNNDDD.. ACTION!!! tongue.gif

Wii is not suitable for me cause of wiimote or a Nunchuck controller...
affected my sport life(Basketball)..

risiking my wrist cuz of wii than basketball?
i would choose basketball.. than a Wii..

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 5 2008, 12:38 PM)
I am just waiting for self-profess "hardcore gamers" to come in to preach to innocents gamers that were conned by Nintendo's fad, gimmicky Wii console.

"Wii is a fad!!!"
"Wii is for sissy / kiddie / girls / housewives / grandma / fat ppl..."
they will proclaimed.

"Wii is not for hardcore gamers!"
"Wii destroyed the gaming community!"
"Wii has no hardcore games!"
they will cry.

Oh the hardcore gamers are so predictable.
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even fat people like me also go for ps3..hahah flex.gif
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hehe, just to add more fuel to the fire, here you go:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4234.html

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*runs away*


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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 5 2008, 10:45 AM)
same here...hahah...  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 5 2008, 12:38 PM)
I am just waiting for self-profess "hardcore gamers" to come in to preach to innocents gamers that were conned by Nintendo's fad, gimmicky Wii console.

"Wii is a fad!!!"
"Wii is for sissy / kiddie / girls / housewives / grandma / fat ppl..."
they will proclaimed.

"Wii is not for hardcore gamers!"
"Wii destroyed the gaming community!"
"Wii has no hardcore games!"
they will cry.

Oh the hardcore gamers are so predictable.
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where? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Dec 5 2008, 11:40 AM)
"well, wii have the best controller gimmick that non other console game have."

Fixed!

But until Wii Motion Plus comes out, Nintendo still don't have 1:1 true motion controls.
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Hopefully if motion plus are well received, it will be build in on the next batch of Wii motes. More waggle = More sales laugh.gif
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 5 2008, 03:02 PM)
Hopefully if motion plus are well received, it will be build in on the next batch of Wii motes. More waggle = More sales  laugh.gif
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Wii Fap will be perfected by then sleep.gif
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 5 2008, 02:52 PM)
where?  laugh.gif
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U did see meh? Come liao la, soon soon....
patience la, sure got.

Hardcore or HD gamers sure come out in hordes to defend Gameland from Wii invasion,
like Delta Team defending Jacinto from Locusts.


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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 5 2008, 03:24 PM)
Wii Fap will be perfected by then sleep.gif
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Haha, agree.
The biggest voodoo spell ever cast by Shiggy on people,
Turn them into waggling Zombie, invading Gameland at night.

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 5 2008, 04:34 PM)
U did see meh?  Come liao la, soon soon....
patience la, sure got.

Hardcore or HD gamers sure come out in hordes to defend Gameland from Wii invasion,
like Delta Team defending Jacinto from Locusts.

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so far I dont see any people like that, not on this tread at least. Those arguments are kinda old. Maybe those 'gamers' are busy playing 'games'.

Sometimes you gotta have faith in people.
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The wii is the cheapest and the most eye catching.....I think many of the ps2 owners choose to upgrade to a wii because of this.......
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 5 2008, 05:13 PM)
so far I dont see any people like that, not on this tread at least. Those arguments are kinda old. Maybe those 'gamers' are busy playing 'games'.

Sometimes you gotta have faith in people.
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Correct also, nod.gif
Gotta learned to have some faith.

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 5 2008, 02:18 PM)
aik dark lama tarak nampak...?
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yer laaa
aku mana ada psn id untuk ko nampak
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 5 2008, 04:34 PM)


Hardcore or HD gamers sure come out in hordes to defend Gameland from Wii invasion,
like Delta Team defending Jacinto from Locusts.

sadly...
we cant save jacinto from sinking by locust
coz we were the one who sink it
lol


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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 5 2008, 08:32 PM)
yer laaa
aku mana ada psn id untuk ko nampak
tongue.gif


Added on December 5, 2008, 8:34 pm

sadly...
we cant save jacinto from sinking by locust
coz we were the one who sink it
lol
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Come on dude, it is the exploding Brumak & the Big Big worm that sink it la,
we just shot some silly laser only. LOL!

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why wii dominates? cuz of ppl like me laugh.gif
i buy wii just for the coming monster hunter tri~ nod.gif
(n cuz of wii fit) doh.gif
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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Dec 6 2008, 07:21 PM)
why wii dominates? cuz of ppl like me laugh.gif
i buy wii just for the coming monster hunter tri~ nod.gif
(n cuz of wii fit) doh.gif
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U serious? Cuz of Wii-Fit???

I bought it for Zelda & Mario,
Mario Galaxy is epic,
but i am still waiting for Zelda.
(Twilight Princess is a GameCube game damn it!)

I guess this add to the Wii domination power.


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I don't decide to buy which console only because it dominates the market more. That just means you're following the herd. Not saying the wii sucks, I'd sure get one instead of a 360 if I have more cash to spare. biggrin.gif

Let nintendo have them monies, at least they won't go under while they wait for me to buy their product.

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"We are not competing against Sony or Microsoft. We are battling the indifference of people who have no interest in video games. And while a $250 sticker makes the Wii more of an impulse buy than even an iPod" - Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata

Nintendo Wii do make first good impression to the general public 1st time... its cheap, simple. fun, family-oriented console....spread word of mouth saying wii is next gen fun gaming... no wonder they sold a lot n making profits due to innovative wiimote....

six years ago, nintendo was in trouble... now they are back on top...n prove the experts wrong...

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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 9 2008, 12:38 AM)
"We are not competing against Sony or Microsoft. We are battling the indifference of people who have no interest in video games. And while a $250 sticker makes the Wii more of an impulse buy than even an iPod" - Nintendo CEO Satoru Iwata

Nintendo Wii do make first good impression to the general public 1st time... its cheap, simple. fun, family-oriented console....spread word of mouth saying wii is next gen fun gaming...  no wonder they sold a lot n making profits due to innovative wiimote....

six years ago, nintendo was in trouble... now they are back on top...n prove the experts wrong...
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Yep,
it surprised me also.
I thought Nintendo will go SEGA way end of this generation,
Wii will be like DreamCast.

But well.... i should not have listened to experts.
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those experts warned nintendo that they might lose their business, direct competition against sony and microsoft... i mean coming up with a machine that has spec equally or better than ps3 and xbox360... gfx wise i guess...

they choose something else, innovative and something catchy... started with DS, then gone to create Wii...

hey... it works and they make lots of profits...

Seeing how sega was out of console business...
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I bought my wii 1/2 year ago.
My wife never appeal to gaming until she pick up tennis, play it a lot and get bored of it. I never into sport games, so i get all the gems on wii, dont like SMG, never into action rpg so no for Zelda, even metroid bored me, i am not sure why. However, i had a great time with RE4 and Disaster Day of crisis recently. Not to mention the best ever nice looking FPS on the wii COD:WaW.

Last few weeks, i pick up Animal crossing, and my wife tell me to start growing up. I was sad, i never like the game, is too kiddy imho, but i wanted to try the so called the most anticipating game for the wii.

Later i pick up the new tales of symphonia, and my wife walk out from the bedroom and ask me why am i getting back to ps2 games? Well obviously is the graphic which made her think so, then again i was sad. The rpg really didnt appeal to me, but again, i really wanted to try the so call best rpg on the wii?

Lastly, i piss myself with all the sport games i can get from the wii (well ah hem ver of course). More than 1/2 of it are kinda stupid, the waggling are unbearable. The other are tiring, and some are left best to only play with buddies, r else, is boring.

I find that i surf the nintendo site or fansite most frequent to look up for upcoming games, news and etc. Sometimes, i think i should be playing games than surfing net, sometimes i feel lazy to start my wii as well. I scroll all my wii games, and i cant made up my mind which to play, not because is lot of them, but most of it just doesnt appeal to me.

That particular day, i decided to made a change, after playing over at my friends house on the ps3. I was jaw dropping, eye popping, i admit, i am a freaking graphic whore somehow, but the realistic graphic just sell me.

The same week, i finally get my ps3. Enjoy every sec of it. Lot of games i really wanted to play on it. Surviving horror fan here. And also like action games, fps, etc. I rarely go into the net now to update my self with any gaming news anymore, i just play games. Whenever i got time, i play my ps3.

My wife would actually sat down and watch me play, which never happen in the past, as the realistic graphic capture her attention a lot than waggling feast. A little annoying now as she would give lot of comment, but it does add much spices to our little small family. Hope to get LBP for her soon, once financially available.

So in nutshell, wii is great but more like a buddies games, you got lot of friends coming for a party, wii is absolutely a great console, but i doubt if my wii is going to start collecting dust now. One anticipating games now for wii for me is Monster huter tri, and that is.

Anyhow, find the true entertainment now and am happy with it.
Good luck to other out there. smile.gif

Enuff for all the rant, ust my 2cent
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 9 2008, 12:39 PM)
I bought my wii 1/2 year ago.
My wife never appeal to gaming until she pick up tennis, play it a lot and get bored of it. I never into sport games, so i get all the gems on wii, dont like SMG, never into action rpg so no for Zelda, even metroid bored me, i am not sure why. However, i had a great time with RE4 and Disaster Day of crisis recently. Not to mention the best ever nice looking FPS on the wii COD:WaW.

Last few weeks, i pick up Animal crossing, and my wife tell me to start growing up. I was sad, i never like the game, is too kiddy imho, but i wanted to try the so called the most anticipating game for the wii.

Later i pick up the new tales of symphonia, and my wife walk out from the bedroom and ask me why am i getting back to ps2 games? Well obviously is the graphic which made her think so, then again i was sad. The rpg really didnt appeal to me, but again, i really wanted to try the so call best rpg on the wii?

Lastly, i piss myself with all the sport games i can get from the wii (well ah hem ver of course). More than 1/2 of it are kinda stupid, the waggling are unbearable. The other are tiring, and some are left best to only play with buddies, r else, is boring.

I find that i surf the nintendo site or fansite most frequent to look up for upcoming games, news and etc. Sometimes, i think i should be playing games than surfing net, sometimes i feel lazy to start my wii as well. I scroll all my wii games, and i cant made up my mind which to play, not because is lot of them, but most of it just doesnt appeal to me.

That particular day, i decided to made a change, after playing over at my friends house on the ps3. I was jaw dropping, eye popping, i admit, i am a freaking graphic whore somehow, but the realistic graphic just sell me.

The same week, i finally get my ps3. Enjoy every sec of it. Lot of games i really wanted to play on it. Surviving horror fan here. And also like action games, fps, etc. I rarely go into the net now to update my self with any gaming news anymore, i just play games. Whenever i got time, i play my ps3.

My wife would actually sat down and watch me play, which never happen in the past, as the realistic graphic capture her attention a lot than waggling feast. A little annoying now as she would give lot of comment, but it does add much spices to our little small family. Hope to get LBP for her soon, once financially available.

So in nutshell, wii is great but more like a buddies games, you got lot of friends coming for a party, wii is absolutely a great console, but i doubt if my wii is going to start collecting dust now. One anticipating games now for wii for me is Monster huter tri, and that is.

Anyhow, find the true entertainment now and am happy with it.
Good luck to other out there. smile.gif

Enuff for all the rant, ust my 2cent
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lol.. nice.. even with a jaw dropping graphics, none of my family members have any interest in the games i play..
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Yes, there are many ppl that is disappointed with Wii,
But majority of the Game-consumers this generation, are just like me - love the Wii, and no, Wii is not JUST a party machines to us.
There are already 40 Million people bought Wii,
and Wii continue to sell like MAD, 800,000 Wiis was sold on Black Friday week alone!

Don't tell me there 40 million party-animals, I don't see so many party goes on,
and don't tell me with all the millions SMG, Smash Bro, Mario Kart, Zelda.... that was sold,
and people STILL argued that Wii are collecting dusk, maybe the Wii that those complaining people owned are collecting dusk,
MOST Wii DON'T!
Look at the amount of games sold, look at the games chart, look at new games that comes,
It is obvious that most Wii don't collect dusk.
That Wii-collect-dusk argument just doesn't add up to me.

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the price of Wii also not that cheap , just add on bit can get PS3 40GB.
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if u wanna play next gen console go for PS3 or XBOX360..
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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Dec 9 2008, 05:20 PM)
i feel sorry for my dad when he buy the what we call weeee! weeee! for my little bro.. he play it for one year and now he keeps bugging me to play my ps3. Nvm.. i can understand that.. he already 8 this year.. like the story said.. weeeeeeeeeee! just for kids age between 3 ~ 7 years old. KINDER GARDEN to be precise..
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 9 2008, 07:10 PM)
if u wanna play next gen console go for PS3 or XBOX360..
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PS3, 360 and Wii are now "this gen".

Why is it so?
Why Wii is not this gen?
It is the "graphic argument" you dwell on?


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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 5 2008, 05:13 PM)
so far I dont see any people like that, not on this tread at least. Those arguments are kinda old. Maybe those 'gamers' are busy playing 'games'.

Sometimes you gotta have faith in people.
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 9 2008, 07:10 PM)
if u wanna play next gen console go for PS3 or XBOX360..
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 9 2008, 07:10 PM)
if u wanna play next gen console go for PS3 or XBOX360..
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 9 2008, 11:13 PM)
I told you so Sniper, here they comes.
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I guess it boils down to time, as when the thread began, maybe these people missed it. But they, I have to say, didnt post extremely shallow points there,one was pointing out the obvious about next gen graphics and one was sharing his family story. Valid arguments I would say, but then again, we have different opinions. Personally for me, at this time, there is no need for me to get the Wii. Well, until Capcom finishes Monster Hunter 3, then Iwata is getting my money.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 10 2008, 07:47 AM)
I guess it boils down to time, as when the thread began, maybe these people missed it. But they, I have to say, didnt post extremely shallow points there,one was pointing out the obvious about next gen graphics and one was sharing his family story. Valid arguments I would say, but then again, we have different opinions. Personally for me, at this time, there is no need for me to get the Wii. Well, until Capcom finishes Monster Hunter 3, then Iwata is getting my money.
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Hahah then sorry for the family story.. not intentional but just to share something i went through...

And to neogeocdz, relax... no need to be so stress out. Everyone will had their own favourite console, but mostly, favourite games. THe games on the Wii might not appeal to some people, but they sold so well because the wii simply apply to the nintendo fans, the non gamers and also the casuals. Is a fantastic console i must admit if only the graphic and 3rd party dev support was better.

After all, its all come down to taste and preferance. I might get bored with ps3 too maybe in future, so who know? Is up to either sony, microsoft and nintendo to push their software to made their hardware interesting.

Numbers are not everything, its simply mean that everyone are buying it, either they play it or not is another issue. All matter is how the dev response and continue bringing fun games to us as user or player.

Nevermind the last or this or next generation, is the motion or HD generation now. Either way, go with whatever suit. smile.gif
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@jenniferjen

Yes... smile.gif I admit that i stress out a bit. Looking at some uneducated posts makes me stress out. Ok ok, i relax... relax... relax... peace.... shalom... shanti....

Yes u r right. It all depend on personal taste, and i really don't see the point when ppl started to ridicules other's choices, using rude and mean words.

@snipersnake

I agree with u on Monster Hunter 3.
I don't agree with the "not shallow" agreement. I don't think someone that used words like "Wee Wee" (means penis in Australia & NZ), "kindergarden" or "ur console last gen", have any serious depth and reasons in them. Besides trying to --- Ridicule.

Give me a break.

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 09:03 AM)
Hahah then sorry for the family story.. not intentional but just to share something i went through...

And to neogeocdz, relax... no need to be so stress out. Everyone will had their own favourite console, but mostly, favourite games. THe games on the Wii might not appeal to some people, but they sold so well because the wii simply apply to the nintendo fans, the non gamers and also the casuals. Is a fantastic console i must admit if only the graphic and 3rd party dev support was better.

After all, its all come down to taste and preferance. I might get bored with ps3 too maybe in future, so who know? Is up to either sony, microsoft and nintendo to push their software to made their hardware interesting. 

Numbers are not everything, its simply mean that everyone are buying it, either they play it or not is another issue. All matter is how the dev response and continue bringing fun games to us as user or player.

Nevermind the last or this or next generation, is the motion or HD generation now. Either way, go with whatever suit. smile.gif
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I beg to differ, numbers do means a lot to gamers.

For example, to X360 owner who likes to play or wishes to play Final Fantasy 13 drool.gif do you think if X360 is selling badly in US of A, Square would even THINK of porting it to X360? Most of the gamers have no money and they cannot just buy PS3 for the sake of playing that game. See, by selling shedloads is does pays off to be X360 owner.

Another example, Monster Hunter 3. Why do you think it is coming out on Wii? Because Wii sales obliterate everyone else.

All this example are only applicable to Single Owner console. If you are rich and can own all three then sales figure does not matter. But for the other 95% of gamers who owns only 1 console at 1 time, then it means a lot to them.

Edited. Grammar and spelling

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well honestly speaking from my side, I don't want to see nintendo go down. We freaking grew up with the games on their consoles! How sad would it be to see mario die off?

Sure he could go like sonic, but look at the hedgehog now. He even grew fur into some kinda freak, having affairs with every other console like some cheap whore.

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I beg to differ, numbers do means a lot to gamers.

For example, to X360 owner who likes to play or wishes to play Final Fantasy 13  drool.gif  do you think if X360 is selling badly in US of A, Square would even THINK of porting it to X360? Most of the gamers have no money and they cannot just buy PS3 for the sake of playing that game. See, by selling shedloads is does pays off to be X360 owner.

Another example, Monster Hunter 3. Why do you think it is coming out on Wii? Because Wii sales obliterate everyone else.

All this example are only applicable to Single Owner console. If you are rich and can own all three then sales figure does not matter. But for the other 95% of gamers who owns only 1 console at 1 time, then it means a lot to them.

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Well i understand you perfectly well.
Sorry to mislead in the number part.
What i really meant is that numbers are not always the determining factors. Sure the number lead you to made the next decision on where to station your hardware. Like what you said about the FF13 on the X360, i always think Square are trying to maximize their profit, that is why they decided to bring it to the x360 as well. Just put it as an example, I am a supplier and my client, contractor A is tendering a job to an owner. When tendering, there might be contract A, B and C. If i only support contractor A and ignore contractor B and C, I might miss had lower my chances to get the job if happen that contractor B and C get the job. If i supported all of them, is going to be a win win situation. Same thing apply here, is Square choose to only support PS3, they might only get portion of profit but if square supported both, they can maximize the profit. So for me (humble opinion), think that no matter how much volume of x360 owner wanted FF13, porting seem to be the best choice, on the dev stand of view.

I was pretty sad with MH3 being ported to wii, when they suppose to announce it for ps3, is think its look pretty awesome in ps3, with the better networking system. However, for this, like you mentioned, number did play an important rules here. Capcom see the potential and go with it, but as in how good is going to sell, we will gonna wait and see. For once i tot DIsaster :DoC is going to sell well, but i guess not, further my believes that matured games doesnt really appeal to wii owner.

Just my 2cent. smile.gif
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If not because Nintendo we would not be where we are as gamers.

1. They single handedly saved the gaming industry after the fall of the mighty Atari.

2. Because of them the Playstation came into existance. To sum it up, Ninty and Sony goes on joint venture to create an add on for SNES, Ninty pulled out of the deal and Sony continues with the disbanded project.

There are many ifs and buts the the above scenario like if not for Ninty someone else would start back the gaming industry. The fact that matters is Ninty does it and no one else.


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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 09:34 AM)
Well i understand you perfectly well.
Sorry to mislead in the number part.
What i really meant is that numbers are not always the determining factors. Sure the number lead you to made the next decision on where to station your hardware. Like what you said about the FF13 on the X360, i always think Square are trying to maximize their profit, that is why they decided to bring it to the x360 as well. Just put it as an example, I am a supplier and my client, contractor A is tendering a job to an owner. When tendering, there might be contract A, B and C. If i only support contractor A and ignore contractor B and C, I might miss had lower my chances to get the job if happen that contractor B and C get the job. If i supported all of them, is going to be a win win situation. Same thing apply here, is Square choose to only support PS3, they might only get portion of profit but if square supported both, they can maximize the profit. So for me (humble opinion), think that no matter how much volume of x360 owner wanted FF13, porting seem to be the best choice, on the dev stand of view.

I was pretty sad with MH3 being ported to wii, when they suppose to announce it for ps3, is think its look pretty awesome in ps3, with the better networking system. However, for this, like you mentioned, number did play an important rules here. Capcom see the potential and go with it, but as in how good is going to sell, we will gonna wait and see. For once i tot DIsaster :DoC is going to sell well, but i guess not, further my believes that matured games doesnt really appeal to wii owner.

Just my 2cent. smile.gif
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I'm not a programmer but I would like to think there would be a cost attached to porting a game specifically created from ground up to a different console with a different program. Case in hand reprogram FF13 so that it would plays on X360.

Now this number is for example only. Let say it cost USD 5 mill to do this porting to X360. Square still have to calculate how many potential x360 customers that would buy the game. IF x360 only sells 5mill instead of 20mill, then the latter figure have more chances of being ported.

Edited, so if the cost outweight potential returns then it have no chance. Higher Sales means higher potential returns.

So which means number still means a lot to this developer.

One question, if the figure were to be reversed, PS3 sold more than X360, would Square have even touched X360? No.

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Hehe i totally agree with "If not because Nintendo we would not be where we are as gamers"

And today im still a Nintendo Fan rclxm9.gif
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Still waiting for new Zelda sad.gif ...
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Huh got new Zelda ? Wii or Ds ka?
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no laa..but I can live in hope, rite?
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with this thread , i think im gonna buy Wii...
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QUOTE(PaiGeWonG @ Dec 10 2008, 10:41 AM)
Huh got new Zelda ? Wii or Ds ka?
Sorry out of topic  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ajis @ Dec 10 2008, 10:47 AM)
no laa..but I can live in hope, rite?
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No big surprise. At E3 2008, Nintendo confirmed (very vaguely) that the Mario and Zelda teams had reassembled, but offered no further details. But when we sat down with Shigeru Miyamoto this week, he elaborated on situation, absolutely confirmed that a new Wii Zelda is underway, and suggested that it will see some fundamental changes.

"The Zelda team in particular always works on Zelda titles. The core members of the Zelda team have for a very long time now been focused on Zelda games, and continue to focus on Zelda games, so they are hard at work and working away," Miyamoto said. "And then, of course, we have the DS Zelda team as well, so even there we're having some switching of people in and out where the DS team is mixing in with the Wii team and working on the Wii version."

At GDC 2007, Eiji Aonuma gave a presentation on The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. At that time, he showed a brief snippet of an experimentation the Zelda team conducted -- it was Twilight Princess running in the first-person view. We asked Miyamoto if such a fundamental change could await players of Wii's next Zelda adventure.

"I don't necessarily think it will change that drastically, but I think that Zelda is a franchise that does need some big new unique ideas," he said. "And so the team right now is very focused on trying to find those ideas."


http://wii.ign.com/articles/890/890200p1.html
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Nintendo is not only a soft spot to me, it is an important part of my childhood. So many fun and happy moment with friends and family were spent around the jumping plumber called Mario, or the green hero Link.

Mario is an icon for many gamers childhood, so I don't think it is wrong to demand some respect for an important cultural icon. To see someone labeling your childhood hero as "Wee Wee", "Kindergarden", "oh so last gen", is an insults.

Nintendo as a company I must say not only survived on innovation, but the loyalty of Nintendo fans that they've created along the years. Nintendo fans are not some fanatics fanboys, but people that remember their childhood fondly, and that continue to have fun with DS & Wii.

I think people that enter gaming in PS1 era will not have a soft spot for Nintendo. During PS1 era, even Sonic is not speeding on Saturn. Did we not respect their Ace Combat, Rayman, Snake? Did we said their games are utter bullshit? No we didn't, in fact I enjoy these games as well.

So personally think this Wii bashing should stop, for goodness sake.

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OT : saw Zelda movie trailer some time ago, Link boy looks like Jacko wannabe..takde artis lain ke oit?
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 11:08 AM)
Nintendo is not only a soft spot to me, it is an important part of my childhood. So many fun and happy moment with friends and family were spent around the jumping plumber called Mario, or the green hero Link.

Mario is an icon for many gamers childhood, so I don't think it is wrong to demand some respect for an important cultural icon. To see someone labeling your childhood hero as "Wee Wee", "Kindergarden", "oh so last gen", is an insults.

Nintendo as a company I must say not only survived on innovation, but the loyalty of Nintendo fans that they've created along the years. Nintendo fans are not some fanatics fanboys, but people that remember their childhood fondly, and that continue to have fun with DS & Wii.

I think people that enter gaming in PS1 era will not have a soft spot for Nintendo. During PS1 era, even Sonic is not speeding on Saturn. Did we not respect their Ace Combat, Rayman, Snake? Did we said their games are utter bullshit? No we didn't, in fact I enjoy these games as well.

So personally think this Wii bashing should stop, for goodness sake.

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Ahh.. this would explain why i feel slightly dissapointed with nintendo, i grow up with PS1, PS2 and now PS3 + Wii.
I get wii first because its appeal to my wife at first, and i think the motion stuffs are pretty cool.
Never hate or dislike the wii, i think is a potential console, just hope there will be more mature type of game.

QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:21 AM)
Come on neogeocdz, just admit it. Dont have money to buy PS3 right?  wink.gif About ur WII.. its Modded huh? Nevermind laa, even pirate still can play maa.. Just take it easy k, sometimes world can be so cruel. But that's what we call WORLD u know.. some people are poor.. and some peole are god damn rich so they can buy PS3 as they want!
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Err.... i think i bought my wii much expensive than the ps3 but that's 1/2 year ago thou.
But i think a standard modded wii now cost around RM1200 with 1 additional controller (you will need it, that what wii are made of, offline multiplayer), as compare to a 40g PS3 nowadays around RM1300 max. So its not much different. I think neogeocdz was a great fan of nintendo, and he know what he enjoy in his gaming experience, and that all its matter to any gamers out there. smile.gif

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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:21 AM)
Come on neogeocdz, just admit it. Dont have money to buy PS3 right?  wink.gif About ur WII.. its Modded huh? Nevermind laa, even pirate still can play maa.. Just take it easy k, sometimes world can be so cruel. But that's what we call WORLD u know.. some people are poor.. and some peole are god damn rich so they can buy PS3 as they want!
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 10 2008, 11:28 AM)
Don't say something you do not know. You are making a fool of yourself.
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Just ignore him, this thread is making good progress and lets not it be derailed.

Glad that we have have a good sales thread without it being closed few days later.
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Agrees with Corez and Gundam. Don't make wild accusations out of people without proper confirmation.

Neogeo fanboys FTW! Horrible OT. tongue.gif

I'm still waiting for Zelda Wii to really come out. The ported one feels cramped in a SDTV. And didn't draw me in completely.
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 10 2008, 11:39 AM)
Just ignore him, this thread is making good progress and lets not it be derailed.

Glad that we have have a good sales thread without it being closed few days later.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 11:51 AM)
Agrees with Corez and Gundam. Don't make wild accusations out of people without proper confirmation.

Neogeo fanboys FTW! Horrible OT. tongue.gif

I'm still waiting for Zelda Wii to really come out. The ported one feels cramped in a SDTV. And didn't draw me in completely.
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Yeehah! SNK FTW! NeoGeo FTW!!

I am still waiting for Zelda Wii as well. Twilight Princess is great on GameCube,
because it is made for GameCube, it felt sort of lacking when it came to Wii.

Oh yes, Kyo I bet u have played the Phantom Hourglass on DS? Nice eh?


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First Person Zelda? shakehead.gif
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Yes yes, on Link cross bow training,
it is indeed kind of FP Zelda.

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seems Sega is giving Nintendo Wii a hand... a lot of new releases next year

last time it was rivalry, now its different story...

In the past, Nintendo is all abt quality games... they still have those rigorous standards.. imho... today they still are ...
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Some people argue that Gamers are too emotionally engaged to their consoles. I would think it is rather natural, because Gaming is such a powerful hobby that get u involved emotionally.

Allow me to further my reasoning. Lets say you owned SNES during childhood, grown up on Mario Zelda & Street Fighters 2. These games not only engaged u for hours and hours, they also are something that u shares with cousins and classmates. It is a source of joy, when u scored an A on English, your daddy get u a Super Mario 3 as a rewards. Perhaps you have take it for granted when your grandma let you played your Mario 3 on TV, while she sacrifice her favourite TV shows.

Years passed. You graduated, left your childhood classmates, cousins got married, neighbors migrated, your daddy mommy grew old, perhaps your grandma has since passed away. What is left of your childhood? Yes, that friend named Mario. Mario is still kicking Bowser's butt and saving princess Peach, continue to entertain perhaps your very own kid on Wii & DS.

You know, when u see that Italian plumber jumping on Wii, you felt nostalgic, happy and entertained. It is very obvious that Mario games have always been beacon of video game entertainment, but besides being a good videogame, do u know why u love Mario?

Because you are grateful, when u r still a little boy, ur daddy used the little money he earned and get u a SNES & Mario. Just to make u happy and entertained. He is now old, and he always wants the best for u, u felt grateful.
Because you miss your grandma that have since passed away. Your grandma rather see you happy playing Mario, than let herself indulge in that TV show. She is now not around, and u always felt awkward during festive season without her.
Because you remember your childhood classmates, the neighbour that has since migrated. You guys shared your SNES cartridges, and discuss ways to beat that Rockman final boss. They are bunch of fun guys, compare to the horrible colleagues you have now.

So everytime u see Mario, Nintendo, Zelda.... u felt nostalgic and grateful, and u r glad coz your childhood hero is still kicking butt.

When these bunch of people that called themselves "HD hardcore gamers", "Next Gen Gamers", "Defenders of TRUE games" came in and insults Nintendo, it is rather natural that people like me felt outrage.

So for goodness sake, Stop all the insults.
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neogeocdz, calm down....

i do understand u abt us growing up in the era of Nintendo/Sega/Atari... those retro-years.. nostalgia

These ppl u are talking abt, they probably not born yet... or not gamers at that specific time... so their insults are just thin air...

also they prob don't know where nintendo is heading now... in business sense... glad that they still stay strong...
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 01:04 PM)
Some people argue that Gamers are too emotionally engaged to their consoles. I would think it is rather natural, because Gaming is such a powerful hobby that get u involved emotionally.

Allow me to further my reasoning. Lets say you owned SNES during childhood, grown up on Mario Zelda & Street Fighters 2. These games not only engaged u for hours and hours, they also are something that u shares with cousins and classmates. It is a source of joy, when u scored an A on English, your daddy get u a Super Mario 3 as a rewards. Perhaps you have take it for granted when your grandma let you played your Mario 3 on TV, while she sacrifice her favourite TV shows.

Years passed. You graduated, left your childhood classmates, cousins got married, neighbors migrated, your daddy mommy grew old, perhaps your grandma has since passed away. What is left of your childhood? Yes, that friend named Mario. Mario is still kicking Bowser's butt and saving princess Peach, continue to entertain perhaps your very own kid on Wii & DS.

You know, when u see that Italian plumber jumping on Wii, you felt nostalgic, happy and entertained. It is very obvious that Mario games have always been beacon of video game entertainment, but besides being a good videogame, do u know why u love Mario?

Because you are grateful, when u r still a little boy, ur daddy used the little money he earned and get u a SNES & Mario. Just to make u happy and entertained. He is now old, and he always wants the best for u, u felt grateful.
Because you miss your grandma that have since passed away. Your grandma rather see you happy playing Mario, than let herself indulge in that TV show. She is now not around, and u always felt awkward during festive season without her.
Because you remember your childhood classmates, the neighbour that has since migrated. You guys shared your SNES cartridges, and discuss ways to beat that Rockman final boss. They are bunch of fun guys, compare to the horrible colleagues you have now.

So everytime u see Mario, Nintendo, Zelda.... u felt nostalgic and grateful, and u r glad coz your childhood hero is still kicking butt.

When these bunch of people that called themselves "HD hardcore gamers", "Next Gen Gamers", "Defenders of TRUE games" came in and insults Nintendo, it is rather natural that people like me felt outrage.

So for goodness sake, Stop all the insults.
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I guess i been through the same senario as you do, i still remember playing mario and double dragon, also lot other 2D platform games like you do perhaps, and had lot of fun from it, serve as pretty good childhood memories.

But differ from you, taste and experience changed when we grow up. Not to say we cant stay as fun as our childhood memories served, but somehow, at least for me, i wanted something more than just mario. Somehow, i cant stand 2D platform at all, not even a moment, which probably answer why I dislike mario paper, although i think is a pretty good RPG. But with the growth of tech, somehow, it drawn me to demand for much realistic looking games, much matured, etc. Maybe is the growth of the technologies, or maybe people just changed, fan or no fan for me, is not relevant, cause i just want to play games, I can be fan for nintendo 15 years ago? But as long as their games still favor my taste and up to today tech growth and is fun to play, they will always get the support.

Again just my 2cent
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Great post.

You really brought me back a lots of good childhood memories. Although I play Xbox360 more than my Wii now but I still preferred Wii to play those fun and great games all the time ie Mario, Zelda rclxms.gif .
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 01:16 PM)
I guess i been through the same senario as you do, i still remember playing mario and double dragon, also lot other 2D platform games like you do perhaps, and had lot of fun from it, serve as pretty good childhood memories.

But differ from you, taste and experience changed when we grow up. Not to say we cant stay as fun as our childhood memories served, but somehow, at least for me, i wanted something more than just mario. Somehow, i cant stand 2D platform at all, not even a moment, which probably answer why I dislike mario paper, although i think is a pretty good RPG. But with the growth of tech, somehow, it drawn me to demand for much realistic looking games, much matured, etc. Maybe is the growth of the technologies, or maybe people just changed, fan or no fan for me, is not relevant, cause i just want to play games, I can be fan for nintendo 15 years ago? But as long as their games still favor my taste and up to today tech growth and is fun to play, they will always get the support.

Again just my 2cent
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A different analogy.

Let say you support a football club, currently they are winning trophies and everything else, suddenly they are not winning and going through a slump (like Liverpool who have not win the championship during the last 19 years). According to your analogy above, you and many others will desert your club and support the current winning team AMT like Man Utd.

For Neogeo and myself, we will still support our football club which are going through the crisis because through they belong to a special place in our heart.

Am I wrong to use this for example?
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U'd be pissing Liverpool fans though for mentioning defection. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 10 2008, 01:23 PM)
A different analogy.

Let say you support a football club, currently they are winning trophies and everything else, suddenly they are not winning and going through a slump (like Liverpool who have not win the championship during the last 19 years). According to your analogy above, you and many others will desert your club and support the current winning team AMT like Man Utd.

For Neogeo and myself, we will still support our football club which are going through the crisis because through they belong to a special place in our heart.

Am I wrong to use this for example?
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No... fan support..loyalty is what important.. i was sega fan... sad no more consoles from them... nevertheless still buy games (published by sega)
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 01:27 PM)
U'd be pissing Liverpool fans though for mentioning defection. laugh.gif
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Aiyo got 2 example ler. Those who deserted their club and those who stayed through thick and thin biggrin.gif

Edited: Hopefully Aiyish and Madmoz tak bambu me for using this example sweat.gif biggrin.gif

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Do note, Loyalty and Fanboyism are two different words with different meanings. So I, as a gamer, a player, enjoy what is made, given, and produced. smile.gif

@corez, kekekeke. tongue.gif
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I grew up on Nintendo ( I played the Microgenius aka NES console) last time. Contra, Super mario bros 2, 3, etc etc. Such fond memories...

But now no more. As I grow older, I slowly got hooked up with PS & Xbox. Games like MGS, Halo, Gran Turismo appeals to me more...

Nintendo, you will always be in my heart forever... cool2.gif


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Only thing I can think of why Wii dominates because users think they are not just playing games but also at same time (delusionary) exercising, in a way healthier..........by just moving a portion of their arm? Secondly it's cheaper.
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QUOTE(LeechFever @ Dec 10 2008, 01:37 PM)
Only thing I can think of why Wii dominates because users think they are not just playing games but also at same time (delusionary) exercising, in a way healthier..........by just moving a portion of their arm? Secondly it's cheaper.
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This is a flawed arguement since Wii fit only released in Dec 07 and May 08 whilst Wii are released in Nov 2006.

The cheaper reasoning is VERY true. Everyone LOL at Sony when they announce USD599. I think its Kutaragi who even said that gamers are willing to have 2 jobs to buy PS3. laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 01:30 PM)
Do note, Loyalty and Fanboyism are two different words with different meanings. So I, as a gamer, a player, enjoy what is made, given, and produced. smile.gif

@corez, kekekeke. tongue.gif
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Kyo, I agree with u.

Let me explain further.

Fanboyism is like when you fell in love with a HK Singer for example Vivian Chow (Zhou-Hui-Min), those olden days she is sweet, cute and her smiles can kill you. You fell in love and u bought all her music, and watched all her movies. Then she grew old, she is no longer sweet, so u forgot about her and u moves on. You are in a state call "Fanboyism".

Loyalty is like u and your wife. She was once pretty, but she married u, have your kids, and perhaps not as hot as before. Still you love her in health in sickness, in rich or poor. wub.gif There is not one thought in you that you would abandon her, because of all the things you two went through.

I agree that everyone is entitle to their opinion, and of course they could argue it in a civilised way - like jenniferjen, u r a gentlemen! notworthy.gif
But the moment someone cross the line and start insulting, he should be loathe of his barbaric behaviour. wink.gif
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QUOTE(LeechFever @ Dec 10 2008, 01:37 PM)
Only thing I can think of why Wii dominates because users think they are not just playing games but also at same time (delusionary) exercising, in a way healthier..........by just moving a portion of their arm? Secondly it's cheaper.
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since its cheaper, make perfect sense... a perfect gift...

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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 10 2008, 01:54 PM)
since its cheaper, make perfect sense... a perfect gift...
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Definately. USD 249 has been a sweet spot for console price. PS, PS2, GC, XBox.

Which makes us wonder what those CEO's at Sony were smoking when they announce USD599 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 10 2008, 01:54 PM)
since its cheaper, make perfect sense... a perfect gift...
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Perhaps you doesn't mean that majority of Wii's was bought for gift?

If that argument hold true,
there are 40 millions of people bought 40 millions of Wii for another 40 millions of people.
And every single days, there are thousands of people bought thousands of Wii for thousands of people.
Because it is Cheap.

Since when human being becomes so charitable? US$249 is not a small amount of money.

Also, if the argument holds true,
PS2 or XBOX 360 Arcade should be the perfect gift, why it hasn't?

Also, if your argument holds true,
why Wii games were sold in tonnes after tonnes?
Have u look at Wii 2009 games catalogue yet? Noticed the amount of so called "core games" coming?

Wii sold these well, because Nintendo has made a great entertainment device,
that is fun and accessible, and affordable,
and the King - Consumers have spoken with FULL FORCE:"We loves the Wii."
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 01:47 PM)
Kyo, I agree with u.

Let me explain further.

Fanboyism is like when you fell in love with a HK Singer for example Vivian Chow (Zhou-Hui-Min), those olden days she is sweet, cute and her smiles can kill you. You fell in love and u bought all her music, and watched all her movies. Then she grew old, she is no longer sweet, so u forgot about her and u moves on. You are in a state call "Fanboyism".

Loyalty is like u and your wife. She was once pretty, but she married u, have your kids, and perhaps not as hot as before. Still you love her in health in sickness, in rich or poor.  wub.gif There is not one thought in you that you would abandon her, because of all the things you two went through.

I agree that everyone is entitle to their opinion, and of course they could argue it in a civilised way - like jenniferjen, u r a gentlemen!  notworthy.gif
But the moment someone cross the line and start insulting, he should be loathe of his barbaric behaviour. wink.gif
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Yup totally agree on this one, the different between loyalty and fanboy.
But for me, i act upon what is rational and favor more to myself, a little selfish but i cant just keep o dishing cash to someone which i had started to lost hope?

For example, corez example, i once will buy all the jersey of chelsea players just to show my support, watch every of their match and telling everyone they will dominate. But if they truely did poorly, till drain down to division one (for example lar although is not possible), i hardly to actually keep supporting them, rationally, i should be going to support the capabilities team which provide me spectacular teamplay whenever i watch them play, same goes to England national team right?

For the same concept, nintendo been providing good games over the past, but nowadays, they turn to much broader audience, creating lot of games which might not favor to the regular games who like hardcore/serious games. So if the gamers choice to change or continue to support differenting the fanboy and loyal gamers.

Like I said earlier, I grow up mostly with PS1, PS2 and PC, but i bought the wii first over PS3 cause I think wii are pretty inovative and worth the try, although get a bit disappointed later. After getting PS3, is still one of the best console, with great graphic, power, and nevertheless, most games which appeal to me. not t mention BD movie smile.gif

So in the end, is up to the individual which one to go.

ANyhow, wasnt we suppose to bust the reason of why Wii sell like hot cake this years? Sorry to keep stressing over other console.

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 02:03 PM)
Perhaps you doesn't mean that majority of Wii's was bought for gift?

If that argument hold true,
there are 40 millions of people bought 40 millions of Wii for another 40 millions of people.
And every single days, there are thousands of people bought thousands of Wii for thousands of people.
Because it is Cheap.

Since when human being becomes so charitable? US$249 is not a small amount of money.

Also, if the argument holds true,
PS2 or XBOX 360 Arcade should be the perfect gift, why it hasn't?

Also, if your argument holds true,
why Wii games were sold in tonnes after tonnes?
Have u look at Wii 2009 games catalogue yet? Noticed the amount of so called "core games" coming?

Wii sold these well, because Nintendo has made a great entertainment device,
that is fun and accessible, and affordable,
and the King - Consumers have spoken with FULL FORCE:"We loves the Wii."
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thats y MS and Sony scratching their heads over christmas season...
Nintendo got its marketing rite this time round... also make consumer make easy decisions ... impulse buying..

when surveyed across europe n us, number one gifts are wii...even beating ipod or iphone

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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 10 2008, 02:16 PM)
thats y MS and Sony scratching their heads over christmas season...
Nintendo got its marketing rite this time round... also make consumer make easy decisions ... impulse buying..

when surveyed across europe n us, number one gifts are wii...even beating ipod or iphone
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Honestly, MS and Sony lost hand-down for this christmas to wii, although MS still doing pretty good for the second choice of console acting as gift for this christmas, Sony is just too expensive and complicated to manipulate for those un-tapped audiences which started to actually play games now.

A really great strategy by nintendo, kinda thumb up to them, but for this generation, i will stick with my ps3, till they release the HD wii in future. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 02:31 PM)
Honestly, MS and Sony lost hand-down for this christmas to wii, although MS still doing pretty good for the second choice of console acting as gift for this christmas, Sony is just too expensive and complicated to manipulate for those un-tapped audiences which started to actually play games now.

A really great strategy by nintendo, kinda thumb up to them, but for this generation, i will stick with my ps3, till they release the HD wii in future. smile.gif
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Yes. MS is stick to getting the most out of their resources, and basically give up fighting for number 1.
There is now no way anyone could challenge Wii's momentum.
And i gotta admit MS did a great job.

Hey Jenniferjen u already have a Wii right? U will be glad next year, and next year is less than 1 month.
We could be exchanging Wii friend code soon.

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Yes. MS is stick to getting the most out of their resources, and basically give up fighting for number 1.
There is now no way anyone could challenge Wii's momentum.
And i gotta admit  MS did a great job.

Hey Jenniferjen u already have a Wii right? U will be glad next year, and next year is less than 1 month.
We could be exchanging Wii friend code soon.
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Err.. i got a wii surely, but just wondering why do i be glad? If you are refering to the games, i already scout out all the games and not a lot appeal to me actually, conduit maybe, House of the dead overkill surely, or I might try No more heroes and Rising Dead, but other than that, I am not really interested.

Well you might already able to catch my taste of gaming right? icon_idea.gif
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Its because of Monster Hunter 3. The one game that will unite most PSPians into getting their Wiis. tongue.gif
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Its because of Monster Hunter 3. The one game that will unite most PSPians into getting their Wiis. tongue.gif
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Ahh.. yah... one games i might want for my wii, but the US release already announced? Next year?
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its next year from our understanding alrite. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 02:50 PM)
Ahh.. yah... one games i might want for my wii, but the US release already announced? Next year?
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Mmmm.... surely they would release that for US right?

Besides the one you've mentioned, Madworld would be nice,
Dragon Quest 10 is going to Wii.
Deadly Creatures, Punch Out, Final Fantasy Echos of Time & Crystal Bearers,
Tenchu, Cursed Mountain..... don't remember all.

Also it is likely that there will be a new Mario or Zelda announced,
as hinted by Shigeru.

Hard time for me, cause i owned a 360 as well,
not rich enough to get all of them.
Also all the retro consoles i targeted to buy....
my goodness, i gotta go to Genting to try my luck,
if not hard to pay for all the games.

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there's always dark side for the wii, hehe..... part of the reason why it's thriving here in asia. tongue.gif

i haven't felt the need to pirate my wii, basically because there aren't enough good games on it. yes u can regard that as a complaint but the same goes with the ps3 for me. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 02:46 PM)
Err.. i got a wii surely, but just wondering why do i be glad? If you are refering to the games, i already scout out all the games and not a lot appeal to me actually, conduit maybe, House of the dead overkill surely, or I might try No more heroes and Rising Dead, but other than that, I am not really interested.

Well you might already able to catch my taste of gaming right?  icon_idea.gif
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We're just hardcore gamers inside. A lot of Wii owners feel the same way, and we feel like we're getting ditched for crappy shovelware.. But when a triple-A quality title like Galaxy, or Brawl, or even better, Zelda comes out, we shut out yaps and keep praising Nintendo all over again laugh.gif

Yes, Wii lacks more mature themed games, but those games mentioned above certainly makes up for the rest of it nod.gif
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QUOTE(sihumchai @ Dec 10 2008, 03:15 PM)
We're just hardcore gamers inside. A lot of Wii owners feel the same way, and we feel like we're getting ditched for crappy shovelware.. But when a triple-A quality title like Galaxy, or Brawl, or even better, Zelda comes out, we shut out yaps and keep praising Nintendo all over again laugh.gif

Yes, Wii lacks more mature themed games, but those games mentioned above certainly makes up for the rest of it nod.gif
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QUOTE(why_79 @ Dec 10 2008, 03:10 PM)
there's always dark side for the wii, hehe..... part of the reason why it's thriving here in asia.  tongue.gif

i haven't felt the need to pirate my wii, basically because there aren't enough good games on it. yes u can regard that as a complaint but the same goes with the ps3 for me.  laugh.gif
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That is one of the main reason Wii is selling like hotcakes, piracy.

Just like PS & PS2 the main reason for these console are selling well is because of piracy. However due to their large user base, developers still make games for them.

Even if we say 10% of PS/PS2 userbase buys ori, thats is 10 million potential Ori Customer Base. That goes the same for Wii eventhough the number does not matched PS/PS2 numbers yet.

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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 10 2008, 03:19 PM)
That is one of the main reason Wii is selling like hotcakes, piracy.

Just like PS & PS2 the main reason for these console are selling well is because of piracy. However due to their large user base, developers still make games for them.

Even if we say 10% of PS/PS2 userbase buys ori, thats is 10 million potential Ori Customer Base. That goes the same for Wii eventhough the number does not matched PS/PS2 numbers yet.
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Given the income level that people in ASEAN have,
a consoles that can be hacked will continue to enjoy popularity like PS2.
Example, Wii.

However, when u go to a country that have few times of income the ASEAN level,
the desire to pirate a game become lower, and original games are actually quite affordable
for people earning Australia, Japan or US income.
Of course there are still pirates, but at a much lower number than ASEAN.

So, Piracy is a contributing factor in the popularity,
perhaps not the MAIN factor for Wii's worldwide success, imo.


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Anyway how define hardcore and non hardcore (again?)?

I hardly play my Wii, 360 nor PS3, am I not hardcore?
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 10 2008, 03:48 PM)
Anyway how define hardcore and non hardcore (again?)?

I hardly play my Wii, 360 nor PS3, am I not hardcore?
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 10 2008, 03:19 PM)
That is one of the main reason Wii is selling like hotcakes, piracy.
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i doubt piracy play that big of a role in wii triumph, maybe here in malaysia yes. the bulk of wii owners are supposedly casual gamers, they won't know a thing about hacking consoles and in western countries, you don't have profesionals in-store who will help you do it.
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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:04 PM)
HAHA.. anyway i think u guys get too PUMP on this matter.. Hail PS3!
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Well to be honest, one of the other factor buying the wii first for me is.... ah hem games lol... much cheaper.... but after PS3, i learn to appreciate the games more.

"Besides the one you've mentioned, Madworld would be nice,
Dragon Quest 10 is going to Wii.
Deadly Creatures, Punch Out, Final Fantasy Echos of Time & Crystal Bearers,
Tenchu, Cursed Mountain..... don't remember all."

Except for curse mountain, the other doesnt really appeal to me thou...

But if looking over the other console, i wanted FF13, RE5, SH5, Siren, DeadSpace, R2, HeavyRain badly... That's the games i am hype over...
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 04:25 PM)
Well to be honest, one of the other factor buying the wii first for me is.... ah hem games lol... much cheaper.... but after PS3, i learn to appreciate the games more.

"Besides the one you've mentioned, Madworld would be nice,
Dragon Quest 10 is going to Wii.
Deadly Creatures, Punch Out, Final Fantasy Echos of Time & Crystal Bearers,
Tenchu, Cursed Mountain..... don't remember all."

Except for curse mountain, the other doesnt really appeal to me thou...

But if looking over the other console, i wanted FF13, RE5, SH5, Siren, DeadSpace, R2, HeavyRain badly... That's the games i am hype over...
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That's your problem. Anyone stopping you from getting originals for Wii?

It's your evil side that makes you think it that way, not Wii fault.

Not going to comment your taste for gaming, but hope you won't condemn others' as well.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 10 2008, 04:16 PM)
Yes yes everyone knows you are the richest and the only one who can afford a PS3. Bye!
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LOL!
Sigh.... I wish i am as rich as him, sigh (Very loud)........

@jenniferjen

Besides the games that I told you that is available on Wii,
Me also looking forward to FF13, RE5, Halo Wars, SF 4.... on 360 as well.
I just finished Gears of War 2, and playing Fallout 3 & Animal Crossing Wii.

At the same time i am playing Samurai Spirit RPG, guess what, on Neo Geo CDZ now,
that game that Gumdamalpha reluctantly sold to me.

It seems, i have a much broader taste.

I am sorry that u found Wii uninteresting.

Oh, I don't have a single ahem games, although i am not rich.
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 10 2008, 04:27 PM)
That's your problem. Anyone stopping you from getting originals for Wii?

It's your evil side that makes you think it that way, not Wii fault.

Not going to comment your taste for gaming, but hope you won't condemn others' as well.
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Err.. no one stopping me except for my financial capabilities that all.
Never say is wii fault... and i do prefer wii to gives us the alternative, either you can support the original or go over the dark side, and up till the end, is our choice, right? No offence, but you sound like i been blaming wii for piracy and choose it over the other console.

Err... i recall correctly in every of my post, i do stress is my personal taste, and never condemn any other games or other people preference.... so your kind demand will be noted. smile.gif dont worry...

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"I am sorry that u found Wii uninteresting."
No not really, is very situational, when my buddies come over, wii is the king... lot of laughter and try get drunk and play boxing, is hillarious... lol....
Just that not all games are favor to me over the wii. I am happy and respect those who love the wii games, just that, different people different taste that all.

Old now... Last time, I can spent whole week few days sleepless to finish an RPG, but nowadays, too old for the pressure... working is sux lol...

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Actually, Bluffy has a good argument. So being a gentlemen here, i'd say I'm waiting for my No More Heroes and Madworld.

Ah games, you make me enjoy this life in my peaceful place. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Dec 10 2008, 04:44 PM)
and here i though all weee fanboy was easy to play, manage, kind and cute like its games.. NOOOO! i am dead wrong! they are angry-mob coming at me with their nunchuk! ruuuuun guys ruuuuunn. I cant stand this.. how come those kiddy games can turn them to be like this
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QUOTE(gundamalpha @ Dec 10 2008, 04:50 PM)
It is easy to understand as long as you have a brain smile.gif
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Gundam, he has a PS3,
and his PS3 is more powerful than his brain. doh.gif

Actually we should ask him to consult his PS3 before he post any reply,
it would make more sense.

Perhaps the post could win him a Nobel Literature Prize next year.
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Now now. Lets not start something over here. we're older and wiser than our counterparts before. remember,

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 04:55 PM)
Now now. Lets not start something over here. we're older and wiser than our counterparts before. remember,

Weak dogs bark the loudest. smile.gif
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Sorry Kyo,
my bad my bad.

I duly delivered my heartfelt apology to the Civilized Gamers Society.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 04:55 PM)
Now now. Lets not start something over here. we're older and wiser than our counterparts before. remember,

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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 04:55 PM)
Now now. Lets not start something over here. we're older and wiser than our counterparts before. remember,
Weak dogs bark the loudest. smile.gif
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oh crap, are you quoting itagaki? i remember he used that phrase when he was bashing kamiya.

just ignore bluffy, someone clearly forgot to tell him he got a blu-ray player since sony is obviously hinging on its bluray capabilites to save their console. doh.gif
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U mean, Tomonoatmeal Cookigaki? Hell no. tongue.gif Just something that I remembered. biggrin.gif

Life's simple. Enjoy what you've got and if you're not, go buy something else and add it up. What's so hard about it anyway?

You set your own limits. No one else.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Dec 10 2008, 05:19 PM)
U mean, Tomonoatmeal Cookigaki? Hell no. tongue.gif Just something that I remembered. biggrin.gif

Life's simple. Enjoy what you've got and if you're not, go buy something else and add it up. What's so hard about it anyway?

You set your own limits. No one else.
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Good point.

Maybe i start something interesting here... related to wii

RE4 on the wii is one of the most perfect games i ever played in my gaming history (For single player game adventure game). The graphic is up to par, the control is one of the most awesome in gaming history, just press and aim, natural, easy and great. Not to mention the tilting to slash the knife, love it.

So, I hope day and night for any similar games to come along. And dream come true when capcom gonna release rising dead. That one game i wanted to try on the wii for sure.

But is there any other planning to actually utilize the incredible motion control on the wii with this sort of games?

Nintendo been keep pushing the motion control to its limit (let's tap?). Is inovative, but i think is really time to start sitting down and develop games which work perfect with the wiimote and nunchuck.
What do you guys think?
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 05:29 PM)
Good point.

Maybe i start something interesting here... related to wii

RE4 on the wii is one of the most perfect games i ever played in my gaming history (For single player game adventure game). The graphic is up to par, the control is one of the most awesome in gaming history, just press and aim, natural, easy and great. Not to mention the tilting to slash the knife, love it.

So, I hope day and night for any similar games to come along. And dream come true when capcom gonna release rising dead. That one game i wanted to try on the wii for sure.

But is there any other planning to actually utilize the incredible motion control on the wii with this sort of games?

Nintendo been keep pushing the motion control to its limit (let's tap?). Is inovative, but i think is really time to start sitting down and develop games which work perfect with the wiimote and nunchuck.
What do you guys think?
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Actually, I'm looking forward to Lets Tap. It doesn't just show how the Wii mote is just simple motion sensing controls, but Sega was able to find out how to deal with the sensitivity of the motion sensing and make them look much more usable. That's broadening horizons. biggrin.gif
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jen, u do realise RE4 was originally not made to be played that way? it just so happened the geniuses at Capcom figure out how to make it work with the wii controls.

the best thing u can hope for is a RE5 with wii controls, a spin-off gameof some sorts or worse case, a pared-down RE5. Probably the suits at Capcom was waiting to see how Dead Rising Wii does before greelighting that....
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Yes. Although I am looking forward to RE5 on 360, I still feel that an entirely new RE build on RE4 wii control scheme will be the best game ever.

Agree with Jen. No game's control comes close to RE4 Wii, not even Gears of War 2 and Halo 3, sorry 360 fans.

I played RE4 on GameCube, yet i felt pleasantly surprised when I played the RE4 on Wii.
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guys,

interesting arguments.... nevertheless we're lucky to have these video games platforms today...

ppl have been talking abt the future of video games as one platform, a universal console..... that's gonna be boring
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As much as I would like to say great discussion, but I fail to see the point of this for the past 7 pages. Sure, numbers can be important but surely, if you care about the numbers, you would have read it long before it was even posted here.

So, what does this thread do? Lure the fanboys in? And then we wait for the "Civilized Gamers Society" to walk in and poke them around? Mods have closed threads like this before because it absolutely serves zero purpose, other than the first post (which allowed me to learn something new).

After that, all I see is someone who will come in with a remark that Wii is subpar and then the arguments on why Nintendo is superior arises. Someone quotes the "graphic is almighty rule" and then someone will go "Oh motion control and Nintendo saved the game industry", someone will go on and say "Kiddy games" and then talks on cultural icons will surface.

How many times do we have to dance the same dance? Over and over and over again. One would have thought people would have gotten tired of this.

I now leave you to your discussion. My rant of the day is complete. smile.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Dec 10 2008, 07:35 PM)
As much as I would like to say great discussion, but I fail to see the point of this for the past 7 pages. Sure, numbers can be important but surely, if you care about the numbers, you would have read it long before it was even posted here.

So, what does this thread do? Lure the fanboys in? And then we wait for the "Civilized Gamers Society" to walk in and poke them around? Mods have closed threads like this before because it absolutely serves zero purpose, other than the first post (which allowed me to learn something new).

After that, all I see is someone who will come in with a remark that Wii is subpar and then the arguments on why Nintendo is superior arises. Someone quotes the "graphic is almighty rule" and then someone will go "Oh motion control and Nintendo saved the game industry", someone will go on and say "Kiddy games" and then talks on cultural icons will surface.

How many times do we have to dance the same dance? Over and over and over again. One would have thought people would have gotten tired of this.

I now leave you to your discussion. My rant of the day is complete. smile.gif
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Very enlighten you seems.
But does this thread have to "do something" for it to serve a purpose?
I beg to differ.

You must have spent a lot of times reading this discussion, looking at your post.
Perhaps you should not have read this if it bother you these much.

Going by your logic it seems to me that you should have quit your gaming hobby and stop visiting Console Couch.
Console Couch has always served minimal purpose as well,
besides it is a great place for discussion, brain storming, and perhaps some reflections and amateur analysis.
If news are all you seek, IGN, EDGE, Kotaku are you place. Not here.

The whole gaming as a hobby, serve ZERO purpose besides making profit for shareholders.
Yes you've saved Princes Peach, but did terrorist stop killing innocent people?
Yes you have sunk Jacinto, but did the Credit Crunch suddenly became history?
No, hence it serve no purpose.

The discussion started really well, and people have great times discussing initially,
until certain people start insulting others.

If you are not agreeable with some of our comment,
you are always welcome to rebuke us, with reasons of course.
Writing off the whole discussion by calling this thread "Serving No Purpose",
does not make the points that you are unable accept goes away.

Having a great time discussing, exchanging view in a Civilised way,
are all we strive to do here.
No, i don't visit LYN to serve any purpose,
I come here to have a good time discussing with friends.

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i do agree with neogeocdz

just take the comments as a pinch of salt... everyone is entitled to their opinion.. some are very expressive.. nonetheless we're just sharing viewpoints.. at the end of the day, we laughing at each other..

there's are other forums which are worst that i can't even comprehend rclxub.gif ... y so serious... its all abt gaming as a hobby...
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yah, dont take thing so seriously ma, treat it like some buddies simple talking over the mamak stall, there is no winner or loser over the debate, just simple neutral discussion to exchange opinions smile.gif No harm right?

Btw, aside from discussion like this, this is where i look for games impression too smile.gif So i know what games to buy...

QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 05:42 PM)
Yes. Although I am looking forward to RE5 on 360, I still feel that an entirely new RE build on RE4 wii control scheme will be the best game ever.

Agree with Jen. No game's control comes close to RE4 Wii, not even Gears of War 2 and Halo 3, sorry 360 fans.

I played RE4 on GameCube, yet i felt pleasantly surprised when I played the RE4 on Wii.
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It doesnt have to be RE5, it's can be any shooting games, as long as the gameplay are the same as RE4, and yeah, is amazing, not even the new Dead Space which play so similar. How i hope i am using the wiimote and nunchuk smile.gif

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 08:35 PM)
yah, dont take thing so seriously ma, treat it like some buddies simple talking over the mamak stall, there is no winner or loser over the debate, just simple neutral discussion to exchange opinions smile.gif No harm right?

Btw, aside from discussion like this, this is where i look for games impression too smile.gif So i know what games to buy...
It doesnt have to be RE5, it's can be any shooting games, as long as the gameplay are the same as RE4, and yeah, is amazing, not even the new Dead Space which play so similar. How i hope i am using the wiimote and nunchuk smile.gif
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Yes yes! That is what I feel when I played Gears of War 2,
i said to myself -- How nice if i can use Wiimote & nun-chuck.

There is a very short game from Nintendo - Link Cross Bow Training.
Nintendo has done a really good FPS in Zelda setting.
The control is pretty tight, and addictive as well.
But the problem is it is too short. It felt more like a tech-demo.
So i don't recommend you to get it.

Other than that, you have already tried COD WAW,
so far from the feedback i heard, it is very good.
Comment said that it got tight control, but i haven't tried it personally.

RE 4 & Umbrella Chronicles should be the good one.
House of Dead is definitely excellent, waiting for Overkill.
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Umbrella is fun... great use of onrail shooter. Same goes to HotD although the graphic may be quite outdated, is still fun smile.gif

COD:WAW, personally, i think it got the best graphic over wii, quite dinamic and nice. Played it till the end. Great control compare to PS3 controller pad. smile.gif
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After about 7 pages of nail gouging, intelligent and civilized chatter i think i would like to make a contributing to this very thought provoking thread...

look we are all gamers here, when somebody says that their console has won the holidays or something it nearly always seem to be for trolling or self love for their console, the latter of which has nothing bad about it. Also as gamers we have the privilege to enjoy some exclusive games/devices/services that can only be found on our own consoles. The Wii has their idiot proof, casual, entertaining games. The 360 and PS3 have great graphics, games that appeal to the core gamers.

Say whatever you want about a certain console the fact of the matter is when in a competition or race one console would not be the all singing all dancing machine, it will always have its limits, the Wii has shortage(not absence) of core games, the PS3 and 360 find it hard to attract the mass market. Consoles are meant to be a cheap effective form of gaming whatever platform you choose.

Game consoles are like cars, The 360 and PS3 are like Ferraris and Mercedes Benz's and the Wii is like a Toyota, one group is cheap, effective and popular while the other group is mass market. My point is cars are cars and their main duty is to transport people and like consoles its main priority is too entertain the people. If you realized that im grouping the PS3 and 360 together and not the Wii even Nintendo said they are not competing with Microsoft and Sony, and if you realize something about the gaming news is always about the rivalry between Sony and Microsoft....i.e: see FF13 and MGST and Resident Evil 5....

One final point here is that the TS intentions are unclear, he might just want to show some love for his console or just wants to spread flames here, but whatever the case we gamers when it gets down to it do not care about the console wars, when a gaming event happens we will all be proud to got there and play with one another whatever the console preference. When one of us needs help everybody across the forum will come out to help regardless of what console they have. We should just game because if the love that we have for our hobby and not hate each other just because we have different loyalties.
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 10 2008, 10:26 PM)
Umbrella is fun... great use of onrail shooter. Same goes to HotD although the graphic may be quite outdated, is still fun smile.gif

COD:WAW, personally, i think it got the best graphic over wii, quite dinamic and nice. Played it till the end. Great control compare to PS3 controller pad. smile.gif
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OK, i take this as a recommendation to get a Wii version.
Because I am still undecided whether to get 360 or Wii,
I already tilted towards getting a Wii version coz I fear the 360 version might have uninspiring control,
and might played too much like COD4.

For House of Dead... haha, Wii one looks better than DreamCast,
and played MUCH better!

I think many of us Wii gamers are too pamper by RE4 Wii controls,
everytime a shooters came out, we will be disappointed because it is not as good as RE4 Wii.
Agree?

Capcom is really genius, besides RE4 Wii-make,
their Okami Wii-make is very very excellent.
Wii control basically transformed the gameplay, and speed up the progress.
The whole Okami played much tighter because of the control.
The PS2 version is already excellent, Wii-make is simply fabulous.
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 08:03 PM)
Very enlighten you seems.
But does this thread have to "do something" for it to serve a purpose?
I beg to differ.

You must have spent a lot of times reading this discussion, looking at your post.
Perhaps you should not have read this if it bother you these much.

Going by your logic it seems to me that you should have quit your gaming hobby and stop visiting Console Couch.
Console Couch has always served minimal purpose as well,
besides it is a great place for discussion, brain storming, and perhaps some reflections and amateur analysis.
If news are all you seek, IGN, EDGE, Kotaku are you place. Not here.

The whole gaming as a hobby, serve ZERO purpose besides making profit for shareholders.
Yes you've saved Princes Peach, but did terrorist stop killing innocent people?
Yes you have sunk Jacinto, but did the Credit Crunch suddenly became history?
No, hence it serve no purpose.

The discussion started really well, and people have great times discussing initially,
until certain people start insulting others.

If you are not agreeable with some of our comment,
you are always welcome to rebuke us, with reasons of course.
Writing off the whole discussion by calling this thread "Serving No Purpose",
does not make the points that you are unable accept goes away.

Having a great time discussing, exchanging view in a Civilised way,
are all we strive to do here.
No, i don't visit LYN to serve any purpose,
I come here to have a good time discussing with friends.
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I come here for good discussions as well, and I have had my share of fun in the various kopitiams and random chat threads that were opened across console couch.

So, yes, to me, every thread serves a purpose, whether it is to share views and experiences with a particular game (ie individual game threads), or console buying advice (which exists in every sub-forum). This thread could have served its purpose, but wouldn't you agree that discussion about the Wii and how great it is can be shared in the Nintendo sub-forum?

I don't specfically go to a Canon forum and scream, damn Nikon won these awards! So, while I appreciate the insights I gained from reading the past 7 pages, I would also think that piece of news could have gone into one of the many threads that are already available. Which therefore, brings me to my point that this thread serves no purpose because it could have done its job as a simple post in another thread.

As for your whole gaming hobby serves no purpose, aww, you don't feel that being entertained is a purpose? That in itself is why I play games. After all, if I am not entertained, why bother playing? Not all purposes have to be big and lofty so I don't envision myself solving world hunger just because I completed Cooking Mama. In fact, I can't even fry an egg after completing Cooking Mama, but I was thoroughly entertained.

And typing long posts like this is fun to me. So indulge me for the moment yah? smile.gif
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QUOTE(zio @ Dec 10 2008, 11:35 PM)
I come here for good discussions as well, and I have had my share of fun in the various kopitiams and random chat threads that were opened across console couch.

So, yes, to me, every thread serves a purpose, whether it is to share views and experiences with a particular game (ie individual game threads), or console buying advice (which exists in every sub-forum). This thread could have served its purpose, but wouldn't you agree that discussion about the Wii and how great it is can be shared in the Nintendo sub-forum?

I don't specfically go to a Canon forum and scream, damn Nikon won these awards! So, while I appreciate the insights I gained from reading the past 7 pages, I would also think that piece of news could have gone into one of the many threads that are already available. Which therefore, brings me to my point that this thread serves no purpose because it could have done its job as a simple post in another thread.

As for your whole gaming hobby serves no purpose, aww, you don't feel that being entertained is a purpose? That in itself is why I play games. After all, if I am not entertained, why bother playing? Not all purposes have to be big and lofty so I don't envision myself solving world hunger just because I completed Cooking Mama. In fact, I can't even fry an egg after completing Cooking Mama, but I was thoroughly entertained.

And typing long posts like this is fun to me. So indulge me for the moment yah? smile.gif
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Yes, exactly what I am telling you,
we were entertained, hence it serves a purpose.
You've suggested that this thread serves no purpose,
so I thought you opined that entertainment is not a purpose?
If entertainment is not a purpose to you, gaming will have zero value for u.

If this thread indeed has to move to Nintendo sub-forum,
we thank you for informing us.
But at the same time i am puzzled as well, looking at titles listed on main page, (http://forum.lowyat.net/ConsolesCouch)
there are PSP and PS3 centric discussion which you have graciously ignored,
while this Wii centric title alone become your target?
Do i sense unfairness?

No most of us do not scream Wii success,
we discuss, we ponder, and we expound on its' success.
However it saddened me that there are certain factions that obviously took offense at Wii success,
and started to use filthy languages to ridicule others.
Don't u think these are the behaviour that you should condemned, instead of the lesser evil of "post in incorrect sub-forum"?

Your very first thread in this discussion included fair amount of sarcasm towards forumers,
i would suggest that you don't engage in this thread if you find it offensive or meaningless.
Many of us have had fun, and i am sorry if you don't.

If you don't mind, me and the other gentlemen would like to continue the discussion.
Hitman190 have had some insightful comments, which i agreed totally.
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 10 2008, 09:14 AM)
I beg to differ, numbers do means a lot to gamers.

For example, to X360 owner who likes to play or wishes to play Final Fantasy 13  drool.gif  do you think if X360 is selling badly in US of A, Square would even THINK of porting it to X360? Most of the gamers have no money and they cannot just buy PS3 for the sake of playing that game. See, by selling shedloads is does pays off to be X360 owner.

Another example, Monster Hunter 3. Why do you think it is coming out on Wii? Because Wii sales obliterate everyone else.

All this example are only applicable to Single Owner console. If you are rich and can own all three then sales figure does not matter. But for the other 95% of gamers who owns only 1 console at 1 time, then it means a lot to them.

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aisehh bro..
im not FF fanboy laa
the way u type means all of 360 owner
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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ Dec 10 2008, 11:21 AM)
Come on neogeocdz, just admit it. Dont have money to buy PS3 right?  wink.gif About ur WII.. its Modded huh? Nevermind laa, even pirate still can play maa.. Just take it easy k, sometimes world can be so cruel. But that's what we call WORLD u know.. some people are poor.. and some peole are god damn rich so they can buy PS3 as they want!
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Don't say something you do not know. You are making a fool of yourself.
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bro, chill tongue.gif
i think corez means no harm to 360 owners,
beside! it's great to see 360 owner gets to play FF13 in US smile.gif
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aiseh...
i just trying to reduce the heat here by quoting the 360 not the wii
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 11 2008, 10:51 AM)
aiseh...
i just trying to reduce the heat here by quoting the 360 not the wii
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LOL, Hey u all.

U quote Wii kena me, u quote 360 also kena me. So pain.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 10 2008, 10:39 PM)
OK, i take this as a recommendation to get a Wii version.
Because I am still undecided whether to get 360 or Wii,
I already tilted towards getting a Wii version coz I fear the 360 version might have uninspiring control,
and might played too much like COD4.

For House of Dead... haha, Wii one looks better than DreamCast,
and played MUCH better!

I think many of us Wii gamers are too pamper by RE4 Wii controls,
everytime a shooters came out, we will be disappointed because it is not as good as RE4 Wii.
Agree?

Capcom is really genius, besides RE4 Wii-make,
their Okami Wii-make is very very excellent.
Wii control basically transformed the gameplay, and speed up the progress.
The whole Okami played much tighter because of the control.
The PS2 version is already excellent, Wii-make is simply fabulous.
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I think the Wii's Virtual Console part is a strong selling-point.
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shall i post the new topic for madness wii sales news? laugh.gif
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I think we better let this thread die,
didn't you see how ugly it turned?

We post the new topic in Nintendo forum la,
that Nov 08 NPD numbers are the perfect ingredient to start a World War 3.

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cos its game onlee for girls and kinds......
mario,zelda etc etc.....sux
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wa... still being dug up. lol
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Wii sucks!!

nah im kidding....but damn man...half of the threads here are worthy to create a movie..

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PS3 sucks!! rclxs0.gif

I'm not kidding tongue.gif Get 2 jobs my @$$ doh.gif How arrogant can you get?

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/06/sony-wan...-playstation-3/

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3141864
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as what wii is in japan doing now,
Dragon Quest X is set for the wii
As you all know lots of Japanese gamers are big fan of DQ, more than monster hunter is.
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i just dont understand the hate for each other....i mean we are all gamers here right?

We should love and care for each other....Hand in hand we DANCE DANCE DANCE!!!
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too bad ppl dun see it that way sad.gif
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we only behave like dicks toward other console gamers when we are behind monitor screens cause we don't actually see the other guys. But if our friends have other console we still go and praise them in hopes that they will invite us to play with them.

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im coming wii
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 27 2008, 12:35 AM)
im coming wii
my wife gonna buy it
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 26 2008, 10:59 PM)
PS3 sucks!! rclxs0.gif

I'm not kidding tongue.gif Get 2 jobs my @$$  doh.gif  How arrogant can you get?

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/06/sony-wan...-playstation-3/

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3141864
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QUOTE(dark lenanza @ Dec 27 2008, 12:35 AM)
im coming wii
my wife gonna buy it
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cheap.. family gaming consoles.. more fun... interesting gadgets..
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the reason for the bashing of wii now are the casual games flooding the market with not much serious games coming out...
there are nitendo fans who feel insulted at how nitendo has been treating them, giving more focus on casual household gamers than dieheart fans of memorable exclusives throughout the system...
other than this, i dun actually see any more rants about the wii system...

when the new zelda/mario/metroid etc comes out, they'll be happy and excited again...
the price is a huge factor for their market share now...
it ain't last gen, its innovative in my books...
jz hope for better games to come up...


Added on December 29, 2008, 8:23 pmps: i certainly love ninja gaiden: dragon sword...
hope for something like that for wii?

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 29 2008, 08:21 PM)
the reason for the bashing of wii now are the casual games flooding the market with not much serious games coming out...
there are nitendo fans who feel insulted at how nitendo has been treating them, giving more focus on casual household gamers than dieheart fans of memorable exclusives throughout the system...
other than this, i dun actually see any more rants about the wii system...

when the new zelda/mario/metroid etc comes out, they'll be happy and excited again...
the price is a huge factor for their market share now...
it ain't last gen, its innovative in my books...
jz hope for better games to come up...


Added on December 29, 2008, 8:23 pmps: i certainly love ninja gaiden: dragon sword...
hope for something like that for wii?
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I dont mind if they come out more games from their 1st party franchises but i rly hope they will put more ideas and innovation into their franchises instead of mario saving the same damn princess for the 100millionth time.... >.<
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I guess the Wii has a way of appealing to non-gamers.My mom's 40+ years old friend bought a Wii from her trip to Australia,let my mom play it and now my mom wants one!And just yesterday my older sister was talking about buying one too.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 29 2008, 08:21 PM)
there are nitendo fans who feel insulted at how nitendo has been treating them, giving more focus on casual household gamers than dieheart fans of memorable exclusives throughout the system...
other than this, i dun actually see any more rants about the wii system...
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Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros ALL CAME OUT within 2 years of Wii life span. Those those fans who felt insulted, I say FECK OFF.

QUOTE(Deathslizer @ Dec 29 2008, 11:51 PM)
I dont mind if they come out more games from their 1st party franchises but i rly hope they will put more ideas and innovation into their franchises instead of mario saving the same damn princess for the 100millionth time.... >.<
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N64 - Mario switch from 2D to 3D seamlessly with the analog control THAT WAS COPIED BY SONY & MICROSOFT whistling.gif

NGC - Not so much innovation, only the inclusion of the Water Pack.

Wii - One of the best control for Mario Game using the Wii mote PLUS the second player can join in any time to help Mario.

For me, that's enough ideas and innovation.
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 30 2008, 06:04 AM)
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros ALL CAME OUT within 2 years of Wii life span. Those those fans who felt insulted, I say FECK OFF.
N64 - Mario switch from 2D to 3D seamlessly with the analog control THAT WAS COPIED BY SONY & MICROSOFT  whistling.gif

NGC - Not so much innovation, only the inclusion of the Water Pack.

Wii - One of the best control for Mario Game using the Wii mote PLUS the second player can join in any time to help Mario.

For me, that's enough ideas and innovation.
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3 games to last the hardcore fans 2 whole years?
in these 2 years look at how many 'casual' games out there...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Dec 30 2008, 04:43 PM)
3 games to last the hardcore fans 2 whole years?
in these 2 years look at how many 'casual' games out there...
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Its 5 games and not 2. BTW I'm havent include Animal Crossing and the new IP by Nintendo which is Disaster: Day of Crisis. Warioware could be considered a hardcore 2D Platforming game.

All in all this is 8 games which could satisfy many so called Ninty fans. 8 games which 5 comes from a top francise in 2 years is not bad ok.

What did Sony came out within 2 years? Gran tourismo - nope, GOW - not yet. What other top first party games from Sony that comes out within the last 2 years?

Please do not include any third party games and I'm actually responding to your posting on Nintendo not being fair to hardcore Nintendo fans.

BTW, could you please show me some of this hardcore fans in this forum that said they were mistreated by Nintendo for the last 2 years?
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Casual games are still great fun if they're not shovelware (Rayman raving Rabbids, Carnival Games).
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Its fun.... cheap in price.... and small (saves space). First, the main reason is, besides its get more lovers from teenagers, it also gets more owners by small kids, older guys, and girls (because of those cute cute games like Mario for instance). Unlike the Xbox and the PS3, it gets more teenagers customers and most of them are boys, unlike the wii, they don't have much cute games (lol).
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QUOTE(SWATwolf @ Dec 27 2008, 10:19 PM)
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wii is fun at first i tried it. but it gets bored after 3 days.
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I am very puzzled by the continuos claim that Wii has no hardcore games. I really don't want to waste my time counting hardcore games one by one, for Wii-Haters, they will always argued the games you listed are not hardcore.

Also, honestly I don't see casual gaming "flooding" the market on Wii. Wii just have got more games, hence chances of shovelware is much higher. Look at PS2. The winning console always get more craps, no?

The losing console will always have the "best" library, consist of mostly quality games. Look at GameCube & PS3. Cause nobody dare to try new thing on a small user base, and the console owner will published more good games to win customers.

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 31 2008, 09:21 AM)
I am very puzzled by the continuos claim that Wii has no hardcore games. I really don't want to waste my time counting hardcore games one by one, for Wii-Haters, they will always argued the games you listed are not hardcore.

Also, honestly I don't see casual gaming "flooding" the market on Wii. Wii just have got more games, hence chances of shovelware is much higher. Look at PS2. The winning console always get more craps, no?

The losing console will always have the "best" library, consist of mostly quality games. Look at GameCube & PS3. Cause nobody dare to try new thing on a small user base, and the console owner will published more good games to win customers.
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actually I tend to stay out of these catfights but...
QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 31 2008, 09:21 AM)
I am very puzzled by the continuos claim that Wii has no hardcore games.

where? and who post that?
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Look at GameCube & PS3. Cause nobody dare to try new thing on a small user base, and the console owner will published more good games to win customers.
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My GC was sold after I finised Twin Snakes but for PS3, have you tried, Eye of Judgement, LBP,Super Rub A Dub? Those are innovative games.
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QUOTE(technophile @ Dec 31 2008, 09:23 AM)
u forgot about dreamcast and saturn bro.
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Saturn, Dreamcast, yep yep. Correct.


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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Dec 31 2008, 10:12 AM)
actually I tend to stay out of these catfights but...

where? and who post that?

My GC was sold after I finised Twin Snakes but for PS3, have you tried, Eye of Judgement, LBP,Super Rub A Dub? Those are innovative games.
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Read the thread carefully, i am not wasting my time repeating.

Also, I hope that you address the point I raised if u believe otherwise,
and not picking sidelines and avoid the main issues i said.

Thanks for your info on you selling your GC. I did not.

I also need to further elaborate my point,
Eye of Judgement, LBP, Super Rub A Dub all First Party right?
Who would take risk with PS3 besides SONY?
First party would always try harder, that is why GC being a sinking ship,
u see many great titles from Nintendo.


Edited to avoid further cat-fight, toned down language
Edited - Remove the word "A Lot", because it has mislead people.

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bro, what do u mean by A LOT of great titles from nintendo? the amount is almost the same as 1st party ps3 and xbox titles.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 12:48 PM)
bro, what do u mean by A LOT of great titles from nintendo? the amount is almost the same as 1st party ps3 and xbox titles.
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I have replaced the Word "A Lot" with "Many",
does that sounds more neutral?

Now u can address the issues i raised?
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And i tot this topic should be dead by now... who the bad boy bring this back up lol

Relax neogeocdz, they are all pros and cons in every progression of each single console.

I just finished some ps3 games yesterday, those tops games rated above 9.0 from most rating site.

Sometimes, i wonder, what make the other console games much more appeal to me than those games in wii. (Must stress this, very personal opinion here). For me, i think is the production of the game. Let's look at 2 different games, MGS4 (PS3) and Mario Galaxy(wii). Both are very high rated game for eachh platform, played differently and had beed exclusive for their respective cnsole.

Now you might think MGS4 is much more fun cause its come from an HD console? Not really, i dont find MGS4 really that appealing in sense of gameplay, etc. same goes to Mario galaxy. But then, is up to individual taste.

I am not a MGS fans, never like stealth games, and I am not mario fan too, never really like the mario gameplay too (SMG or mario paper). But when picking a game which you might not like (Say you dont have much games to play anymore), i will go for MGS4 all the way. At least by watching the cinematic worth every penny i paid for that game. That just again my personal view.

Fans will always support each of their console, put the fans aside, we got ourselves with people who prefer what they will enjoy in each of their game.

And for the last time, the question for why wii dominate? How wouldnt they dominate? THey are meant for everybody. Ps3/xbox360 are mostly meant for gamers, but wii? Is meant for everyone..... Imagine wii as the rice cooker, is started to become a dominating household appliances. smile.gif Kudos to wii for their success, I already stop thinking about wii trying to get mature or adult or aggresive games, as long as wii continue to serve it purpose, we all can hope 3-5 years from now, there is at least a toy/videogame console which is suitable for our beloved children smile.gif

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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 12:48 PM)
bro, what do u mean by A LOT of great titles from nintendo? the amount is almost the same as 1st party ps3 and xbox titles.
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BWT, most of the ps3 and xbox are made by third party, Sony may have some, like god of war and gran turismo. While nintendo has so much 1st party, made by nintendo them self.

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 12:58 PM)
And i tot this topic should be dead by now... who the bad boy bring this back up lol

Relax neogeocdz, they are all pros and cons in every progression of each single console.

I just finished some ps3 games yesterday, those tops games rated above 9.0 from most rating site.

Sometimes, i wonder, what make the other console games much more appeal to me than those games in wii. (Must stress this, very personal opinion here). For me, i think is the production of the game. Let's look at 2 different games, MGS4 (PS3) and Mario Galaxy(wii). Both are very high rated game for eachh platform, played differently and had beed exclusive for their respective cnsole.

Now you might think MGS4 is much more fun cause its come from an HD console? Not really, i dont find MGS4 really that appealing in sense of gameplay, etc. same goes to Mario galaxy. But then, is up to individual taste.

I am not a MGS fans, never like stealth games, and I am not mario fan too, never really like the mario gameplay too (SMG or mario paper). But when picking a game which you might not like (Say you dont have much games to play anymore), i will go for MGS4 all the way. At least by watching the cinematic worth every penny i paid for that game. That just again my personal view.

Fans will always support each of their console, put the fans aside, we got ourselves with people who prefer what they will enjoy in each of their game.

And for the last time, the question for why wii dominate? How wouldnt they dominate? THey are meant for everybody. Ps3/xbox360 are mostly meant for gamers, but wii? Is meant for everyone..... Imagine wii as the rice cooker, is started to become a dominating household appliances. smile.gif Kudos to wii for their success, I already stop thinking about wii trying to get mature or adult or aggresive games, as long as wii continue to serve it purpose, we all can hope 3-5 years from now, there is at least a toy/videogame console which is suitable for our beloved children smile.gif
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haha,
i always look these tense up?

Yes, i agree.
Just because I love my Wii & 360, it doesn't makes PS3 stinks.
LBP is a game i really like to try, but no money for a new console for now.

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QUOTE(Deathslizer @ Dec 29 2008, 11:51 PM)
I dont mind if they come out more games from their 1st party franchises but i rly hope they will put more ideas and innovation into their franchises instead of mario saving the same damn princess for the 100millionth time.... >.<
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Also instead of those big big and buff guys holding those bad ass guns shooting here and there non stop.
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 01:04 PM)
BWT, most of the ps3 and xbox are made by third party, Sony may have some, like god of war and gran turismo. While nintendo has so much 1st party, made by nintendo them self.
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That is right.
Nintendo's titles always sold well, because Nintendo is a great video game maker.
During the GC days, Nintendo almost became the only viable publisher on GC, cause GC's sales stinks.
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 12:58 PM)
And i tot this topic should be dead by now... who the bad boy bring this back up lol

Relax neogeocdz, they are all pros and cons in every progression of each single console.

I just finished some ps3 games yesterday, those tops games rated above 9.0 from most rating site.

Sometimes, i wonder, what make the other console games much more appeal to me than those games in wii. (Must stress this, very personal opinion here). For me, i think is the production of the game. Let's look at 2 different games, MGS4 (PS3) and Mario Galaxy(wii). Both are very high rated game for eachh platform, played differently and had beed exclusive for their respective cnsole.

Now you might think MGS4 is much more fun cause its come from an HD console? Not really, i dont find MGS4 really that appealing in sense of gameplay, etc. same goes to Mario galaxy. But then, is up to individual taste.

I am not a MGS fans, never like stealth games, and I am not mario fan too, never really like the mario gameplay too (SMG or mario paper). But when picking a game which you might not like (Say you dont have much games to play anymore), i will go for MGS4 all the way. At least by watching the cinematic worth every penny i paid for that game. That just again my personal view.

Fans will always support each of their console, put the fans aside, we got ourselves with people who prefer what they will enjoy in each of their game.

And for the last time, the question for why wii dominate? How wouldnt they dominate? THey are meant for everybody. Ps3/xbox360 are mostly meant for gamers, but wii? Is meant for everyone..... Imagine wii as the rice cooker, is started to become a dominating household appliances. smile.gif Kudos to wii for their success, I already stop thinking about wii trying to get mature or adult or aggresive games, as long as wii continue to serve it purpose, we all can hope 3-5 years from now, there is at least a toy/videogame console which is suitable for our beloved children smile.gif
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Jenniferjen...u're like me..we both bought the wii first but then migrated to the ps3. nod.gif Why? Coz i think my reason is the same as u n i need not elaborate further. I still keep the wii n wait for some decent title to my liking comes along again (eg: like RE4, zelda n metroid smile.gif )

@neogeo,
yes..u do look that tense laugh.gif

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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 12:58 PM)
And i tot this topic should be dead by now... who the bad boy bring this back up lol

Relax neogeocdz, they are all pros and cons in every progression of each single console.

I just finished some ps3 games yesterday, those tops games rated above 9.0 from most rating site.

Sometimes, i wonder, what make the other console games much more appeal to me than those games in wii. (Must stress this, very personal opinion here). For me, i think is the production of the game. Let's look at 2 different games, MGS4 (PS3) and Mario Galaxy(wii). Both are very high rated game for eachh platform, played differently and had beed exclusive for their respective cnsole.

Now you might think MGS4 is much more fun cause its come from an HD console? Not really, i dont find MGS4 really that appealing in sense of gameplay, etc. same goes to Mario galaxy. But then, is up to individual taste.

I am not a MGS fans, never like stealth games, and I am not mario fan too, never really like the mario gameplay too (SMG or mario paper). But when picking a game which you might not like (Say you dont have much games to play anymore), i will go for MGS4 all the way. At least by watching the cinematic worth every penny i paid for that game. That just again my personal view.

Fans will always support each of their console, put the fans aside, we got ourselves with people who prefer what they will enjoy in each of their game.

And for the last time, the question for why wii dominate? How wouldnt they dominate? THey are meant for everybody. Ps3/xbox360 are mostly meant for gamers, but wii? Is meant for everyone..... Imagine wii as the rice cooker, is started to become a dominating household appliances. smile.gif Kudos to wii for their success, I already stop thinking about wii trying to get mature or adult or aggresive games, as long as wii continue to serve it purpose, we all can hope 3-5 years from now, there is at least a toy/videogame console which is suitable for our beloved children smile.gif
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My opinion, i would play both MGS and MARIO biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 12:58 PM)
Fans will always support each of their console, put the fans aside, we got ourselves with people who prefer what they will enjoy in each of their game.
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During the days of PS1 and PS2 when Sony sold by the bucket load, we held up and pay our respect to Sony since they knew the way to market it.

Now that NINTENDO HAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD why can't you guys (the so called hardcore gamers konon) give the same respect and instead bashing it up? whistling.gif

QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 01:04 PM)
BWT, most of the ps3 and xbox are made by third party, Sony may have some, like god of war and gran turismo. While nintendo has so much 1st party, made by nintendo them self.
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Err got GOW game on PS3 edy? whistling.gif

GT5 - BTW Demo sold as half of a complete games does not count ahh.
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wah corez so marah biggrin.gif

corez, i dun think jen is bashing the wii laa, he just stated what kind of games he likes. smile.gif
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kalu aku 'kaye leh la' beli PS3.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 01:10 PM)
Jenniferjen...u're like me..we both bought the wii first but then migrated to the ps3.  nod.gif Why? Coz i think my reason is the same as u n i need not elaborate further. I still keep the wii n wait for some decent title to my liking comes along again (eg: like RE4, zelda n metroid smile.gif )

@neogeo,
yes..u do look that tense  laugh.gif
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OK OK, I will cool down cool down....

I goes by a different road, I first bought my Wii, then went on to get 360 for Halo 3,
and now i find i spent more time on Wii. (Blame animal crossing!)
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 31 2008, 01:25 PM)
During the days of PS1 and PS2 when Sony sold by the bucket load, we held up and pay our respect to Sony since they knew the way to market it.

Now that NINTENDO HAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD why can't you guys (the so called hardcore gamers konon) give the same respect and instead bashing it up?  whistling.gif
Err got GOW game on PS3 edy?  whistling.gif 

GT5 - BTW Demo sold as half of a complete games does not count ahh.
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I didn't mention FOR THE PS3, i said SONY not PS3. And I agree, they should give the same respect. Fun games could be better than hardcore.

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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 31 2008, 01:25 PM)
During the days of PS1 and PS2 when Sony sold by the bucket load, we held up and pay our respect to Sony since they knew the way to market it.

Now that NINTENDO HAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD why can't you guys (the so called hardcore gamers konon) give the same respect and instead bashing it up?  whistling.gif
Err got GOW game on PS3 edy?  whistling.gif 

GT5 - BTW Demo sold as half of a complete games does not count ahh.
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Woa!!! rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(ajis @ Dec 31 2008, 01:37 PM)
kalu aku 'kaye leh la' beli PS3.. sad.gif
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eh...i tot u already hv one rclxub.gif

QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 31 2008, 01:37 PM)
OK OK, I will cool down cool down....

I goes by a different road, I first bought my Wii, then went on to get 360 for Halo 3,
and now i find i spent more time on Wii. (Blame animal crossing!)
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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 31 2008, 01:25 PM)
During the days of PS1 and PS2 when Sony sold by the bucket load, we held up and pay our respect to Sony since they knew the way to market it.

Now that NINTENDO HAS RISEN FROM THE DEAD why can't you guys (the so called hardcore gamers konon) give the same respect and instead bashing it up?  whistling.gif
Err got GOW game on PS3 edy?  whistling.gif 

GT5 - BTW Demo sold as half of a complete games does not count ahh.
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Thats the problem with them, always claim they are hardcore gamers.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 01:10 PM)
Jenniferjen...u're like me..we both bought the wii first but then migrated to the ps3.  nod.gif Why? Coz i think my reason is the same as u n i need not elaborate further. I still keep the wii n wait for some decent title to my liking comes along again (eg: like RE4, zelda n metroid smile.gif )
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me also wii owner before getting a ps3 but unlike u guys, i still like the wii better. both console also i support ori so it's not because wii has access to lanun and i can try more games on it.

ps3? didn't really play it much since mgs4... having been fed on a constant diet of quality 3rd party games on the ps1&2 i simply can't accept sony first-party game strategy. i didn't fookin buy a ps3 to play LBP or blu-ray, i want my games! vmad.gif

like most, i also tend to prefer 3rd party games and so far, the 3rd party support on the wii is improving. afterall they tend to stay/come as exclusive and u certainly can't say the same about most of the other two consoles. whistling.gif





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i think the term hardcore and casual is misleading...it's more towards bunuh2 themed gamer biggrin.gif

the term is always being misused...for me hardcore means u play games sampai keras no matter what type game it is. laugh.gif

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sony can't afford to make fans wait for gran turismo 5
at least we got a game... can play online racing somemore.. marvel at the gfx drool.gif
also GOW3 is in development rather being cancelled here n there for others...

Likewise i really miss SEGA since they left, also at same time glad that Nintendo is back into the limelight
Sonic going down the drain (since Yuji Naka left), mario still strong as ever...
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QUOTE(why_79 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:51 PM)
me also wii owner before getting a ps3 but unlike u guys, i still like the wii better. both console also i support ori so it's not because wii has access to lanun and i can try more games on it.

ps3? didn't really play it much since mgs4... having been fed on a constant diet of quality 3rd party games on the ps1&2 i simply can't accept sony first-party game strategy. i didn't fookin buy a ps3 to play LBP or blu-ray, i want my games!  vmad.gif

like most, i also tend to prefer 3rd party games and so far, the 3rd party support on the wii is improving. afterall they tend to stay/come as exclusive and u certainly can't say the same about most of the other two consoles.  whistling.gif
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To me, those blu-ray2 stuff are just gimic. U buy a gaming console to play games, not for the blu-ray thing. And yes, third party support is indeed improving, take Monster Hunter for instance, they launched all thier games on the PSs, but now they are launching Monster Hunter 3 just for the wii. Atari also said they won't be developing games for Sony anymore. So as capcom(after RE5, but thats a rumor, dunno true or not)
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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:52 PM)
sony can't afford to make fans wait for gran turismo 5
at least we got a game... can play online racing somemore.. marvel at the gfx drool.gif
also GOW3 is in development rather being cancelled here n there for others...

Likewise i really miss SEGA since they left, also at same time glad that Nintendo is back into the limelight
Sonic going down the drain (since Yuji Naka left), mario still strong as ever...
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lol? i thought Gran Turismo 5 edi outlong ago at PS3? since they promote it so much at the early day of PS3 (ard 2006)
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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:52 PM)
sony can't afford to make fans wait for gran turismo 5
at least we got a game... can play online racing somemore.. marvel at the gfx drool.gif
also GOW3 is in development rather being cancelled here n there for others...
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This is one example of typical biasness forumner had towards Nintendo.

Sony - Came out with half baked GT5 and GOW3 currently in production after 2 years. Forumners said its ok.

Nintendo - Came out with, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Wario & Animal Crossing. Forumners said Nintendo is pissing on them by only produce crap casual games.

Hmm,,,,,, hmm.gif

BTW, I'm only talking about major IP by the first party.
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 02:12 PM)
To me, those blu-ray2 stuff are just gimic. U buy a gaming console to play games, not for the blu-ray thing. And yes, third party support is indeed improving, take Monster Hunter for instance, they launched all thier games on the PSs, but now they are launching Monster Hunter 3 just for the wii. Atari also said they won't be developing games for Sony anymore. So as capcom(after RE5, but thats a rumor, dunno true or not)
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for pokai ppl like me...i want all things possible in one laugh.gif

for the plus reasons:
i bought the wii so that i can play all the NGC game i never got to play...i bought the ps2 b4 coz it can play the dvd...i bought the ps1 coz it can play the vcd (modded to do it of coz), i bought psp coz i can play my old ps1 games again (err ok la other multimedia stuff on the go as well) and i buy the ds for its cool homebrew and also the multimedia stuff and not just gaming alone.

But that is just me...i'm greedy nod.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Dec 31 2008, 04:40 PM)
for pokai ppl like me...i want all things possible in one  laugh.gif

for the plus reasons:
i bought the wii so that i can play all the NGC game i never got to play...i bought the ps2 b4 coz it can play the dvd...i bought the ps1 coz it can play the vcd (modded to do it of coz), i bought psp coz i can play my old ps1 games again (err ok la other multimedia stuff on the go as well) and i buy the ds for its cool homebrew and also the multimedia stuff and not just gaming alone.

But that is just me...i'm greedy nod.gif
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U want DVD, go buy a DVD player, so cheap, cheaper than PS2, RM100 over, some even below 100 and the video quality better summore. U wan VCD, if u got DVD player, can watch VCD also, if u wan play PS1, i rather play it on a PC emulator.


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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 31 2008, 04:29 PM)
This is one example of typical biasness forumner had towards Nintendo.

Sony - Came out with half baked GT5 and GOW3 currently in production after 2 years. Forumners said its ok.

Nintendo - Came out with, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Wario & Animal Crossing. Forumners said Nintendo is pissing on them by only produce crap casual games.

Hmm,,,,,,  hmm.gif

BTW, I'm only talking about major IP by the first party.
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Nintendo pissing them of by only produce casual games because they never tried before the so called "casual games" Because they are so proud of their "hardcore" games.


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QUOTE(pikacu @ Dec 31 2008, 03:50 PM)
lol? i thought Gran Turismo 5 edi outlong ago at PS3? since they promote it so much at the early day of PS3 (ard 2006)
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ITS JUST DEMO LA!!!!!

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QUOTE(corez @ Dec 31 2008, 04:29 PM)
This is one example of typical biasness forumner had towards Nintendo.

Sony - Came out with half baked GT5 and GOW3 currently in production after 2 years. Forumners said its ok.

Nintendo - Came out with, Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Wario & Animal Crossing. Forumners said Nintendo is pissing on them by only produce crap casual games.

Hmm,,,,,,  hmm.gif

BTW, I'm only talking about major IP by the first party.
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i'm not bias towards nintendo whatsoever... definitely something wrong with u bro...cool down

my opinion is abt a game, not contrasting visuals between consoles..

even tho its half-baked GT5, they still updating the game with more cars... there are other racing game that just got 1 car and few tracks (full game not demo)... also thought that GTHD is the demo...

I've played on my friend's wii and its was fun.


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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 31 2008, 08:18 PM)
i'm not bias towards nintendo whatsoever... definitely something wrong with u bro...cool down

my opinion is abt a game, not contrasting visuals between consoles..

even tho its half-baked GT5, they still updating the game with more cars... there are other racing game that just got 1 car and few tracks (full game not demo)... also thought that GTHD is the demo...

I've played on my friend's wii and its was fun.
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If there are racing games that just got 1 car and a few tracks, i think people wouldn't even know about it, because is so N**B, the developer dun dare tell people.


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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 31 2008, 01:52 PM)
sony can't afford to make fans wait for gran turismo 5
at least we got a game... can play online racing somemore.. marvel at the gfx drool.gif
also GOW3 is in development rather being cancelled here n there for others...

Likewise i really miss SEGA since they left, also at same time glad that Nintendo is back into the limelight
Sonic going down the drain (since Yuji Naka left), mario still strong as ever...
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If can't afford to make fans wait for GT5, then don't announce. For GOW3, if its only in development, do they really have to put those poster saying "coming soon". When metroid known to the public, the game is already out, at least a demo, don't have those coming soon things.

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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 07:22 PM)
ITS JUST DEMO LA!!!!!
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Ooooh, ic laugh.gif

my bad, never follow Gran Turismo series on PS3 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 08:22 PM)
If there are racing games that just got 1 car and a few tracks, i think people wouldn't even know about it, because is so N**B, the developer dun dare tell people.


Added on December 31, 2008, 8:26 pm
If can't afford to make fans wait for GT5, then don't announce. For GOW3, if its only in development, do they really have to put those poster saying "coming soon". When metroid known to the public, the game is already out, at least a demo, don't have those coming soon things.
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Quite funny u said that developer dont dare tell ppl... the game aldy out ages ago on dc...

At least its coming, not just sony, square enix does this as well for FF13, also other companies do this also...eg Duke Nukem Forever

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QUOTE(shahreza2000 @ Dec 31 2008, 08:54 PM)
Quite funny u said that developer dont dare tell ppl... the game aldy out ages ago on dc...

At least its coming, not just sony, square enix does this as well for FF13, also other companies do this also...eg Duke Nukem Forever
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We already have 7th genaration consoles, quite babling about a 6th genaration console, its already 2008, and by another hour or so, its 2009.
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 10:40 PM)
We already have 7th genaration consoles, quite babling about a 6th genaration console, its already 2008, and by another hour or so, its 2009.
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Early happy new year wish here first...
And the console war will never end for another decade perhaps.. lol

Anyway, i was wondering, since when gamers start buying console cause what the console gives? I always believe we buy a console because of the games we like to play from it.

And I bought wii cause i think it got wonderful controller this century a gaming platfrom can give. However, the games which i really respect from wii is RE4 and Disaster, those 2 games really put the controller into full utilization. Other than that, especially those Nintendo games aka Zelda/mario/metriod, really not my style. But still my wife like it very much, so there is nothing to lose. Is all based on personal taste.

Later, i bought the ps3, and like it very much, the graphic, awesome. I know games are not about graphic, but from my perspective, i do hope the games i spent time with would look good too, apart from being fun. Example, i played mario kart, fun for the first few hour, but got bored later on, is not that the graphic bad, just too little cartoonish for me. I played motostorm pacific rift now, i get the same fun factor, but aside from being fun, is realistic. You feel all the great impact from it. The fun feeling would just extend your preferance toward the games and keep playing it.

Like said earlier, i love RE4 so much on the wii, the control, the gameplay, the level and graphic, is absolutely perfect. The other day i played Dead Space, which actually played similar to RE4, the graphic, i would go wow!!! The control might not be as good as Re4 on the wii, but once you get into mood, everything is forgivable.

For me playing games is like experiencing some thing which you won't be able to do in real life. Killing zombies, aliens, race and clash but always get back up to continue the race, infiltrating military based during a war, or even being in the world war 2 ourselves. All this required certain realism and this is absolutely what today graphic can actually do, so why not embrace it. At least, that is what i enjoy in gaming, that how i like my games to be played.

If wii are inovative, i think the 360/ps3 are revolutionary. Sure some people dont think graphic really matter to them, but some people hook on to the graphic to experience gaming which is beyond their imagination. smile.gif

Anyway, is a brand new year, let's cool down for a while and embrace the new coming age of gaming. Hopefully, all console will produce more great games year to come smile.gif no matter the wii / ps3 or xbox. smile.gif

Cheer
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Hope they have some new good titles for the new year!!!! BRAVO 2009, lol XD


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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 11:13 PM)
Early happy new year wish here first...
And the console war will never end for another decade perhaps.. lol

Anyway, i was wondering, since when gamers start buying console cause what the console gives? I always believe we buy a console because of the games we like to play from it.

And I bought wii cause i think it got wonderful controller this century a gaming platfrom can give. However, the games which i really respect from wii is RE4 and Disaster, those 2 games really put the controller into full utilization. Other than that, especially those Nintendo games aka Zelda/mario/metriod, really not my style. But still my wife like it very much, so there is nothing to lose. Is all based on personal taste.

Later, i bought the ps3, and like it very much, the graphic, awesome. I know games are not about graphic, but from my perspective, i do hope the games i spent time with would look good too, apart from being fun. Example, i played mario kart, fun for the first few hour, but got bored later on, is not that the graphic bad, just too little cartoonish for me. I played motostorm pacific rift now, i get the same fun factor, but aside from being fun, is realistic. You feel all the great impact from it. The fun feeling would just extend your preferance toward the games and keep playing it.

Like said earlier, i love RE4 so much on the wii, the control, the gameplay, the level and graphic, is absolutely perfect. The other day i played Dead Space, which actually played similar to RE4, the graphic, i would go wow!!! The control might not be as good as Re4 on the wii, but once you get into mood, everything is forgivable.

For me playing games is like experiencing some thing which you won't be able to do in real life. Killing zombies, aliens, race and clash but always get back up to continue the race, infiltrating military based during a war, or even being in the world war 2 ourselves. All this required certain realism and this is absolutely what today graphic can actually do, so why not embrace it. At least, that is what i enjoy in gaming, that how i like my games to be played.

If wii are inovative, i think the 360/ps3 are revolutionary. Sure some people dont think graphic really matter to them, but some people hook on to the graphic to experience gaming which is beyond their imagination. smile.gif

Anyway, is a brand new year, let's cool down for a while and embrace the new coming age of gaming. Hopefully, all console will produce more great games year to come smile.gif no matter the wii / ps3 or xbox. smile.gif

Cheer
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Actually i would go for controls, rather then graphics, Well, thats my interest.

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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 11:47 PM)
Hope they have some new good titles for the new year!!!! BRAVO 2009, lol XD


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Actually i would go for controls, rather then graphics, Well, thats my interest.
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And i respect your preferance smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Happy new year everyone, back from countdown, kinda drunk, just checked in Animal Crossing, then I logged into here to see u guys. nod.gif
U guys might not agree with me, but u guys are terrific! notworthy.gif

The war will go on, but its ceasefire for today. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(jenniferjen @ Dec 31 2008, 11:13 PM)
If wii are inovative, i think the 360/ps3 are revolutionary. Sure some people dont think graphic really matter to them, but some people hook on to the graphic to experience gaming which is beyond their imagination. smile.gif
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I totally agree, one mans meat is another mans poison.

However like I posted before, to those who choose graphics (PS3 and 360) at least please show some respect to those that choose Wii. Don't la post comments like Wii for kiddy or the gfx sux.
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Dec 31 2008, 07:22 PM)
U want DVD, go buy a DVD player, so cheap, cheaper than PS2, RM100 over, some even below 100 and the video quality better summore. U wan VCD, if u got DVD player, can watch VCD also, if u wan play PS1, i rather play it on a PC emulator.
dude...i was talking about when THE TIME that thing got out. When PS1 was out (mid 90s above), the vcd player is expensive laa...so does when the ps2 was out (late 90s), the dvd player is expensive too. If I was talking about the present...of course those things are cheap (the vcd and the dvd player...but the bluray is still not). doh.gif If u're talking about the present, why in the world would i buy the ps1 now to play vcd?

The point is...at any particular point of time a console was out...of course I'm looking for something that can give me more and not just as a gaming machine.
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 31 2008, 11:08 AM)
Saturn, Dreamcast, yep yep. Correct.


Added on December 31, 2008, 11:19 am

Read the thread carefully, i am not wasting my time repeating.

Also, I hope that you address the point I raised if u believe otherwise,
and not picking sidelines and avoid the main issues i said.

Thanks for your info on you selling your GC. I did not.

I also need to further elaborate my point,
Eye of Judgement, LBP, Super Rub A Dub all First Party right?
Who would take risk with PS3 besides SONY?
First party would always try harder, that is why GC being a sinking ship,
u see many great titles from Nintendo.
Edited to avoid further cat-fight, toned down language
Edited - Remove the word "A Lot", because it has mislead people.
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this thing actually has no issue. you said
QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Dec 31 2008, 09:21 AM)
Look at GameCube & PS3. Cause nobody dare to try new thing on a small user base, and the console owner will published more good games to win customers.
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Then I pointed out that there are, in fact, innovative titles on PS3. Nothing about them being third party thinga ma jig.

Innovation is innovation. Full stop. Without leaders, they would be no followers.

One advise, you are new here. Dont assume that you know everybody here. Some of us, while are crazy about how far technology can be pushed, didnt forget out gaming roots, that nostalgic NES. Just because a couple of cows bashed you, doesnt mean you have to bash back to everybody. Know who you are replying to. Personally I dont care who like what, my money not involved. But to put stereotype, now that is another story.



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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 1 2009, 02:54 AM)
I totally agree, one mans meat is another mans poison.

However like I posted before, to those who choose graphics (PS3 and 360) at least please show some respect to those that choose Wii. Don't la post comments like Wii for kiddy or the gfx sux.
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Yea, for people like me that go for innovation, i respect those ppl that go for graphics, but they all say i very childish, still playing games like mario and stuff. That the proof they don't respect our views.
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Jan 1 2009, 07:52 AM)
this thing actually has no issue. you said

Then I pointed out that there are, in fact, innovative titles on PS3. Nothing about them being third party thinga ma jig.

Innovation is innovation. Full stop. Without leaders, they would be no followers.

One advise, you are new here. Dont assume that you know everybody here. Some of us, while are crazy about how far technology can be pushed, didnt forget out gaming roots, that nostalgic NES. Just because a couple of cows bashed you, doesnt mean you have to bash back to everybody. Know who you are replying to. Personally I dont care who like what, my money not involved. But to put stereotype, now that is another story.
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agree on this...

those who said nitendo users are happy with the current wii libraries of games, go check out gaming forums (particualrly on wii music)...
i for one nvr said wii sucks but all the flames indicate i do?
i jz said there's more of casual games flooding the market compared to the games that must wii owners wanted...
again check the online gaming forums...
i jz posted wut i read over there...
if u guys think that there is enough games on wii now, others still think otherwise and no point flaming them on that...
u CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE to like something...
there's way lots of nitendo fans out there and u are jz one of the fans...

i've even posted being optimistic for great games to come back to the old fans and YET i sitll get flames on the whole matter... doh.gif

all i see is fanboys coming in bashing here and there jz to defend their consoles when there is no direct attack on the console in the first place...

ps: GT5 prolouge is much more than demo... its by far as polished as any other racing games up there and constantly being updated online... heck its content is even more than some released games on the market...

ps v2: go check out the list of 3rd parties game on the ps3 with decent to good review...

ps v3: look at this year's gaming awards for the wii platform...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 02:13 PM)
agree on this...

those who said nitendo users are happy with the current wii libraries of games, go check out gaming forums (particualrly on wii music)...
i for one nvr said wii sucks but all the flames indicate i do?
i jz said there's more of casual games flooding the market compared to the games that must wii owners wanted...
again check the online gaming forums...
i jz posted wut i read over there...
if u guys think that there is enough games on wii now, others still think otherwise and no point flaming them on that...
u CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE to like something...
there's way lots of nitendo fans out there and u are jz one of the fans...

i've even posted being optimistic for great games to come back to the old fans and YET i sitll get flames on the whole matter...  doh.gif

all i see is fanboys coming in bashing here and there jz to defend their consoles when there is no direct attack on the console in the first place...

ps: GT5 prolouge is much more than demo... its by far as polished as any other racing games up there and constantly being updated online... heck its content is even more than some released games on the market...

ps v2: go check out the list of 3rd parties game on the ps3 with decent to good review...

ps v3: look at this year's gaming awards for the wii platform...
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You are right on 1 thing up there, THERE ARE THIRTY FIVE MILLION WII FANS COMPARED TO SEVENTEEN MILLION PS3 FANS rclxs0.gif
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From my point of view.. the wii was fun for abt a month... Im not being biased its the truth... there's barely enough good games to keep me playing it for long.. Ive been dying to get something to play on it for a while now until sonic unleashed recently got released and im like , finally something that's actually fun... But still once im finished thats it.. im waiting on those promising titles that are going to be released this year and i hope to god they dont suck ...
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I agree with Corez.

Honestly no one would try to even think there is any chance PS3 will even beat 360, not to say Wii. Yeah right, start bring up the RROD issues! What else?

Wii has the largest install based and will definitely surpass PS2 soon by this rate, is there any doubt?

Yes, there is MINORITY of really loud gamers that rant non stop about the "no hardcore games" things, but those are all bullshit to me. The software sales said it loud and clear, PEOPLE like the games on Wii.

Animal Crossing anyone?? Probably too "cute" for you hardcore forumers.

Edited to add:

To those that really care about graphic, 360 has better graphic.
RROD again? Jasper/Falcon is out now, go ask Gamer's Hideout for price.

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 02:13 PM)
agree on this...

those who said nitendo users are happy with the current wii libraries of games, go check out gaming forums (particualrly on wii music)...
i for one nvr said wii sucks but all the flames indicate i do?
i jz said there's more of casual games flooding the market compared to the games that must wii owners wanted...
again check the online gaming forums...
i jz posted wut i read over there...
if u guys think that there is enough games on wii now, others still think otherwise and no point flaming them on that...
u CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE to like something...
there's way lots of nitendo fans out there and u are jz one of the fans...

i've even posted being optimistic for great games to come back to the old fans and YET i sitll get flames on the whole matter...  doh.gif

all i see is fanboys coming in bashing here and there jz to defend their consoles when there is no direct attack on the console in the first place...

ps: GT5 prolouge is much more than demo... its by far as polished as any other racing games up there and constantly being updated online... heck its content is even more than some released games on the market...

ps v2: go check out the list of 3rd parties game on the ps3 with decent to good review...

ps v3: look at this year's gaming awards for the wii platform...
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Remember...not a single bad word about it!

Just live with it..that is just the way a fanboy thread works nod.gif
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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 1 2009, 02:59 PM)
You are right on 1 thing up there, THERE ARE THIRTY FIVE MILLION WII FANS COMPARED TO SEVENTEEN MILLION PS3 FANS rclxs0.gif
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lol...
look who is the fanboy here sleep.gif
seriously, such pointless comments would ignite more fanboy war...
all the while, wii fanboys are among the most respectable ones being matured to handle the whole console war issue in a matured manner...
u sir, i would count you out of it...

QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 1 2009, 06:22 PM)
I agree with Corez.

Honestly no one would try to even think there is any chance PS3 will even beat 360, not to say Wii. Yeah right, start bring up the RROD issues! What else?

Wii has the largest install based and will definitely surpass PS2 soon by this rate, is there any doubt?

Yes, there is MINORITY of really loud gamers that rant non stop about the "no hardcore games" things, but those are all bullshit to me. The software sales said it loud and clear, PEOPLE like the games on Wii.

Animal Crossing anyone?? Probably too "cute" for you hardcore forumers.

Edited to add:

To those that really care about graphic, 360 has better graphic.
RROD again? Jasper/Falcon is out now, go ask Gamer's Hideout for price.
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again, look at gaming forums (wii music is a big example)...
look at the reviews of the wii games out this year...
and AGAIN, WHO THE HELL SAID THERE IS NO HARDCORE GAMES for wii...

u need a eye check or a psychiatist for being overly sensitive as NO ONE has been saying that!
all i read is the LACK of NONE CASUAL games out there...
so these are definately bullshit to u since u are imagining things...

as for graphics, both the ps3 and 360 have its strengths in various sectors...
there are some pretty decent comparison of the 2 consoles over gaming websites...
and again, MGS4 have been clean sweeping the 2008 graphics award...

and remember, the opposite of casual IS NOT HARDCORE...
so cute games is nothing wrong for hardcore ganers (see kingdom hearts, ratchet and clank, little big planet etc)

and since u like to say the software sales, look at the software sales for wii music...
having the biggest userbase, they would have the biggest market share for games sold as well...
its pretty rethorical...

@ PhoenixByte
ya the fanboyism of this thread is getting worse while they are still claiming to be in matured discussion...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 09:06 PM)
lol...
look who is the fanboy here sleep.gif
seriously, such pointless comments would ignite more fanboy war...
all the while, wii fanboys are among the most respectable ones being matured to handle the whole console war issue in a matured manner...
u sir, i would count you out of it...
again, look at gaming forums (wii music is a big example)...
look at the reviews of the wii games out this year...
and AGAIN, WHO THE HELL SAID THERE IS NO HARDCORE GAMES for wii...

u need a eye check or a psychiatist for being overly sensitive as NO ONE has been saying that!
all i read is the LACK of NONE CASUAL games out there...
so these are definately bullshit to u since u are imagining things...

as for graphics, both the ps3 and 360 have its strengths in various sectors...
there are some pretty decent comparison of the 2 consoles over gaming websites...
and again, MGS4 have been clean sweeping the 2008 graphics award...

and remember, the opposite of casual IS NOT HARDCORE...
so cute games is nothing wrong for hardcore ganers (see kingdom hearts, ratchet and clank, little big planet etc)

and since u like to say the software sales, look at the software sales for wii music...
having the biggest userbase, they would have the biggest market share for games sold as well...
its pretty rethorical...

@ PhoenixByte
ya the fanboyism of this thread is getting worse while they are still claiming to be in matured discussion...
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My eyes are doing fine. Thanks.

When i state the obvious truth, i am guilty of fanboyism?
Evofantasy asked me to look at Gaming Forum for Wii Music example? I ask you to look at Gaming Forum for "Wii have no hardcore games" example.

Perhaps I should remove the bells and whistles in my sentences, and lets see what is RIGHT or WRONG?

1. PS3 have no chance to beat Wii & 360. (Add: Pricing)
2. Wii is going at a rapid sales rate, higher than PS2 does last gen.
3. Wii has the largest installed base.
4. Animal Crossing is too cute for PS-biased forumers, again look at your favorite Gaming Forum.
5. 360 generally perform better graphically. (Cause it is the lead platform a lot of times)

To respond to your comment on Wii Music, that game sucks and it deserved to tank.

I am stating the obvious, so did Corez. But if you cannot accept it that is ok.
When Corez said THERE ARE THIRTY FIVE MILLION WII FANS COMPARED TO SEVENTEEN MILLION PS3 FANS,
it is a wrong statement?

I will continue a bit. Wii have good quality games, fresh and innovative games this generation,
it has it's pricing right, momentum right, PR right,
they deserve to win this generation.

360 outrunning PS3 fast, because Microsoft has one of the best management in town.
They make the biggest videogame blunder in town (RROD),
they get it over and went on offensive with NXE, Arcade, JRPG.

PS3 is losing, at first because of PRICE PRICE PRICE.
Now it has more problem in hands, many previously exclusive software is either abandoning PS3,
or going multi platform. Dragon Quest, FF, GTA.

You SIR, is the one that refused to face up to the truth.
I remember a fellow forumer said, for PS3 to thrive again it really required a lot of faith.
Faith of SONY and fans.
I couldn't agree with him more.
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again i ask u this...
WHO THE HELL IN THIS THREAD CLAIMS THERE IS NO HARDCORE GAMES FOR WII?

only stupid fanboys is bothered about the ps3 beating wii or not...
its a whole different market audience...
as david jaffe said, u cant compare wii and the ps3, apple and orange...
consoles are not ur e-peen...
nitendo fans have been behaving well but i've managed to see the otherwise over here...
as a gamer, i jz wanna play good games regardless of consoles...
so all of ur so called points, keep it to urself will ya?

price wise, ps3 is due to the blueray...
its still cheaper than most blueray players over there and the latest ps3 development of the RSX and CELL have reduced the cost of the ps3 further by 35%...
so pricecut for the ps3 would be coming pretty soon...

as for the cute part, u changed it from hardcore gamers to ps-gamers...
this i won't bother to research on anymore as u have changed the sentece...
again, cute games are fine when the game is cute from the examples i've given in my previous post...

do me a favor will ya...
try naming me 10 games for the wii this year which u think is good enough to prove wii have good library of games for 2008?

against bout the graphics, check out the comparison (gamespot is a good example)...
u will see both the ps3 and 360 have its own strength in the graphics department...

exclusive wise, we would agree 2008 is the year of the ps3 exclusive (gaming awards and the number of positive reviews)...
of the 3 games u gave me, gta was never a ps exclusive (more to timed exclusive) and the same goes for dragon quest (only several games in the series was)...
as for ff, ff13 is not exclusive but ffvs13 IS exclusive...
instead u should mention tekken lol...

as for corez, look at the emoticon over there...
if u dun see the sarcasm hidden over there, its fine...
i dun expect u to see through it anyways (no offense)...

as far as fanboyism goes, the truth to them is wut they want it to be...
if u are happy with ur console, jz be it...
no point bashing other consoles jz to make u feel better...
nuff' said...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 10:22 PM)
do me a favor will ya...
try naming me 10 games for the wii this year which u think is good enough to prove wii have good library of games for 2008?

as far as fanboyism goes, the truth to them is wut they want it to be...
if u are happy with ur console, jz be it...
no point bashing other consoles jz to make u feel better...
nuff' said...
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List 10 Wii games and expose myself to further nitpicking and flaming again?
I will pick one perhaps - Dragon Quest X,
maybe another one, Monster Hunter 3.
These games are big enough.

Look pass the emoticon of Corez, did he said anything wrong?

If u like to pick on my changes from PS-biased or Hardcore or whatever,
that is fine with me. But Pls address the question I posed.

I am not bashing any consoles,
when I say PS1 sold more than Saturn, I am stating a fact,
not bashing Saturn.

Really, i checked a lot of comparison,
360 generally turn out better, and many reasons I heard is - 360 is the lead platform.
Naturally isn't it?
If MGS4 was ported to 360, PS3 will have better graphic, cause it is the lead platform.
Naturally isn't it?

Finally, you can compare Wii to PS3,
because the rest of the world is doing so,
because SONY and MS management is viewing Wii as the competitor.

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QUOTE(Deathslizer @ Jan 1 2009, 03:38 PM)
From my point of view.. the wii was fun for abt a month... Im not being biased its the truth... there's barely enough good games to keep me playing it for long.. Ive been dying to get something to play on it for a while now until sonic unleashed recently got released and im like  , finally something that's actually fun... But still once im finished thats it.. im waiting on those promising titles that are going to be released this year and i hope to god they dont suck ...
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Added on January 1, 2009, 11:01 pmNintendo is more creative to create "casual" games and also some hardcore games, unlike XXX they only have hardcore games, no casual (not say no la, but very very little), no creativity.

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 1 2009, 10:37 PM)
List 10 Wii games and expose myself to further nitpicking and flaming again?
I will pick one perhaps - Dragon Quest X,
maybe another one, Monster Hunter 3.
These games are big enough.

Look pass the emoticon of Corez, did he said anything wrong?

If u like to pick on my changes from PS-biased or Hardcore or whatever,
that is fine with me. But Pls address the question I posed.

I am not bashing any consoles,
when I say PS1 sold more than Saturn, I am stating a fact,
not bashing Saturn.

Really, i checked a lot of comparison,
360 generally turn out better, and many reasons I heard is - 360 is the lead platform.
Naturally isn't it?
If MGS4 was ported to 360, PS3 will have better graphic, cause it is the lead platform.
Naturally isn't it?

Finally, you can compare Wii to PS3,
because the rest of the world is doing so,
because SONY and MS management is viewing Wii as the competitor.
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again its 10 games of 2008...
exclusive or not...
i'm nt concern with future games to come (the games u mentioned are not even in the context of my question AT ALL as these are big titles for the wii to come which IS NOT EVEN RELEASED FOR 2008) or etc but rather the games of 2008 for the wii...
if u can't its merely obvious wut are the wii library for 2008 are...
wutever reasons u may give, i'm nt interested...

well i dun look at words literally but rather the true context of the words (in and through words as i've learn)...
there's much more to a sentence that it seems and from wut it is trying to convey, its pure fanboyism act of taunting...
i'm jz pointing this out on wut corez said...
to me, its jz pure childish fanboyish remark with the so called emoticon on such a fact...
again who can back the so called 'figure' on the number of fans?

as for the comparison of wii with the other console as u have claimed...
competitor in the gaming market yes...
but there it is to it...
different target audience, different focus, different fanbase etc...
again david jaffe stated it clear enough and i would chose his words over urs anyday anytime...

as for the graphics comparison, gamespot does it for multiplatform games which are on both the 360 and ps3...
try reading it and u WILL FINALLY get to understand wut these 2 consoles excel in instead of posting the otherwise known fact...
mgs4 is jz to show wut ps3 is capable of and killzone 2 will further emphasize it...

and finally on ur "If u like to pick on my changes from PS-biased or Hardcore or whatever, that is fine with me. But Pls address the question I posed."
again, i've stated u CHANGED UR and its no longer of my interest...
thus i am not obliged to answer ur question...
i dun wanna get into fanboys war but rather the reason i point out ur original statement is that it is a pure mockery of good games and the gamers playing them...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:02 PM)
again its 10 games of 2008...
exclusive or not...
i'm nt concern with future games to come (the games u mentioned are not even in the context of my question AT ALL as these are big titles for the wii to come which IS NOT EVEN RELEASED FOR 2008) or etc but rather the games of 2008 for the wii...
if u can't its merely obvious wut are the wii library for 2008 are...
wutever reasons u may give, i'm nt interested...

well i dun look at words literally but rather the true context of the words (in and through words as i've learn)...
there's much more to a sentence that it seems and from wut it is trying to convey, its pure fanboyism act of taunting...
i'm jz pointing this out on wut corez said...
to me, its jz pure childish fanboyish remark with the so called emoticon on such a fact...
again who can back the so called 'figure' on the number of fans?

as for the comparison of wii with the other console as u have claimed...
competitor in the gaming market yes...
but there it is to it...
different target audience, different focus, different fanbase etc...
again david jaffe stated it clear enough and i would chose his words over urs anyday anytime...

as for the graphics comparison, gamespot does it for multiplatform games which are on both the 360 and ps3...
try reading it and u WILL FINALLY get to understand wut these 2 consoles excel in instead of posting the otherwise known fact...
mgs4 is jz to show wut ps3 is capable of and killzone 2 will further emphasize it...

and finally on ur "If u like to pick on my changes from PS-biased or Hardcore or whatever, that is fine with me. But Pls address the question I posed."
again, i've stated u CHANGED UR and its no longer of my interest...
thus i am not obliged to answer ur question...
i dun wanna get into fanboys war but rather the reason i point out ur original statement is that it is a pure mockery of good games and the gamers playing them...
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Why must u specify only in 2008??? blink.gif blink.gif try saying overall whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:04 PM)
Why must u specify only in 2008??? blink.gif  blink.gif  try saying overall  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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lol its only 10 games for 2008...
u dun expect ppl to keep playing 2006/2007 games for 2008? or u expect ppl to start playing monster hunter 3/ dragon quest 10 when its not even out yet...
after all, he's been very supportive of the wii library of games...
as he said, there's lots of games for the wii and the number of crappy games is proportional to the good games...


Added on January 1, 2009, 11:08 pmps: little big planet/ eye of judgement is not innovative in ur books? lol!

ps: i sitll LOL at how ppl love to stroke their NPDs...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:02 PM)
again its 10 games of 2008...
exclusive or not...
i'm nt concern with future games to come (the games u mentioned are not even in the context of my question AT ALL as these are big titles for the wii to come which IS NOT EVEN RELEASED FOR 2008) or etc but rather the games of 2008 for the wii...
if u can't its merely obvious wut are the wii library for 2008 are...
wutever reasons u may give, i'm nt interested...

again who can back the so called 'figure' on the number of fans?

as for the comparison of wii with the other console as u have claimed...
competitor in the gaming market yes...
but there it is to it...
different target audience, different focus, different fanbase etc...
again david jaffe stated it clear enough and i would chose his words over urs anyday anytime...

as for the graphics comparison, gamespot does it for multiplatform games which are on both the 360 and ps3...
try reading it and u WILL FINALLY get to understand wut these 2 consoles excel in instead of posting the otherwise known fact...
mgs4 is jz to show wut ps3 is capable of and killzone 2 will further emphasize it...

and finally on ur "If u like to pick on my changes from PS-biased or Hardcore or whatever, that is fine with me. But Pls address the question I posed."
again, i've stated u CHANGED UR and its no longer of my interest...
thus i am not obliged to answer ur question...
i dun wanna get into fanboys war but rather the reason i point out ur original statement is that it is a pure mockery of good games and the gamers playing them...
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Maybe Corez is a fanboy,
but he is right.
His number is quoted from Wii Sales vs PS3 sales.

Why do u need me to list 10 Wii games? Can't u look it up in Gaming websites?
What is your purpose?
Sorry for mistaking 2008 for 2009,
but I am totally enjoying my Animal Crossing & De Blob now, warn u graphic very unrealistic, very cute.
Planing to get Tatsunoko vs Capcom soon.

No. PS3 & Wii are going for the same market,
just that SONY make the mistakes that people will swallow whatever price they fix,
it turn out SONY is wrong, so fanboys start justifying SONY blunder by saying they target different market. (My opinion)
Who doesn't want the MASS MARKET?

As for what PS3 is capable, really,
does it really matter now? SONY almost lost all chances to close the sales gap.


Added on January 1, 2009, 11:16 pm
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:07 PM)
lol its only 10 games for 2008...
u dun expect ppl to keep playing 2006/2007 games for 2008? or u expect ppl to start playing monster hunter 3/ dragon quest 10 when its not even out yet...
after all, he's been very supportive of the wii library of games...
as he said, there's lots of games for the wii and the number of crappy games is proportional to the good games...


Added on January 1, 2009, 11:08 pmps: little big planet/ eye of judgement is not innovative in ur books? lol!

ps: i sitll LOL at how ppl love to stroke their NPDs...
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U suggesting NPD is not reliable?
Maybe u can suggest another source, so we can go verify.



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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 1 2009, 11:12 PM)
Maybe Corez is a fanboy,
but he is right.
His number is quoted from Wii Sales vs PS3 sales.

Why do u need me to list 10 Wii games? Can't u look it up in Gaming websites?
What is your purpose?
Sorry for mistaking 2008 for 2009,
but I am totally enjoying my Animal Crossing & De Blob now, warn u graphic very unrealistic, very cute.
Planing to get Tatsunoko vs Capcom soon.

No. PS3 & Wii are going for the same market,
just that SONY make the mistakes that people will swallow whatever price they fix,
it turn out SONY is wrong, so fanboys start justifying SONY blunder by saying they target different market. (My opinion)
Who doesn't want the MASS MARKET?

As for what PS3 is capable, really,
does it really matter now? SONY almost lost all chances to close the sales gap.


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U suggesting NPD is not reliable?
Maybe u can suggest another source, so we can go verify.
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y i need u?
cause u own a wii, u love the games so i would definately request 10 good wii games for you (not for other ppl)...
after all u loved it, so it might be easier for me to recommend some good games to my frens who own a wii out there...
i'm sure u played more than 10 good wii games for 2008 rite?
and u have my word, after listing the list, i wont touch on the list at all (i'll keep it to myself, no comments etc)...

and again, i'm nt ur so called ps-hardcore players...
i love games if they are good regardless of the graphics...
u are talking to a guy who love ratchet n clank as well as kingdom hearts...
either way, ur attempt in that is laughable...

again, i jz wanna play games...
as long as games is coming out for the ps3 (good ones) i dun care if they close the gap or nt...
that's y i say, core gamers who jz wanna play good games WONT BOTHER ABOUT THE NDPs...
i would appologize, i'm nt the fanboy that u want/ hope me to be...

again, i quoted david jaffe which is not a sony fanboy (thinks GeoW2 as a superb game and is interested to work on the wii)...

and u finally admitted the flaws in corez's statement...
the fanboysism as well as his so called 'figure' of number of fans...
sales != number of fans...
glad u can finally see the light...

ps: been using the again word so often i kinda get sleepy from repeating...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:07 PM)
lol its only 10 games for 2008...
u dun expect ppl to keep playing 2006/2007 games for 2008? or u expect ppl to start playing monster hunter 3/ dragon quest 10 when its not even out yet...
after all, he's been very supportive of the wii library of games...
as he said, there's lots of games for the wii and the number of crappy games is proportional to the good games...


Added on January 1, 2009, 11:08 pmps: little big planet/ eye of judgement is not innovative in ur books? lol!

ps: i sitll LOL at how ppl love to stroke their NPDs...
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Ok, if u want that 10 games so badly, here it is....
1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2. Animal Crossing: City Folk (probably to casual are cute or even childish for you "hardcore" gamers)
3. Mario Kart Wii (maybe not good got you "hardcore gamers" aslo)
4. Call Of Duty: World At War
5. Disaster: Day of Crisis
6. Guitar Hero: World Tour
7. No More Heroes
8. Rock Band
9. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
10. Sonic Unleashed

Bonus Items!!!
11. Rock Band 2
12. Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip
13. Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2
14. Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility (Oh!! Maybe too kiddie for "hardcore" gamers also)
15. Tales of Symphonia II
16. Lego Batman (too kiddie for you "hardcore gamers also)
17. Wii Fit
18. WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009
19. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (OH!!! Too kiddie also, for u "hardcore" people only la)
20. Star Wars The Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels

OK, WARNING, DUN FLAME ME!!!!


ALL RATED 7.5 AND ABOVE, WORST ONLY 6.9

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Err, when my Avatar is me hugging MARIO, its pretty OBVIOUS I'm a Nintendo Fanboy tongue.gif

BTW of course I rub my hand in glee when Wii is kicking PEE@$$3.

Just like I celebrate when my team Man Utd won the premier league and UCL last season.

I have waited for 10 years hoping Ninty would come back into the forefront in this console business. My wait has been repaid when Wii are currently the best selling console.

I'M A NINTY FANBOY rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:30 PM)
Ok, if u want that 10 games so badly, here it is....
1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
2. Animal Crossing: City Folk (probably to casual are cute or even childish for you "hardcore" gamers)
3. Mario Kart Wii (maybe not good got you "hardcore gamers" aslo)
4. Call Of Duty: World At War
5. Disaster: Day of Crisis
6. Guitar Hero: World Tour
7. No More Heroes
8. Rock Band
9. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
10. Sonic Unleashed

Bonus Items!!!
11. Rock Band 2
12. Shaun White Snowboarding: Road Trip
13. Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2
14. Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility (Oh!! Maybe too kiddie for "hardcore" gamers also)
15. Tales of Symphonia II
16. Lego Batman (too kiddie for you "hardcore gamers also)
17. Wii Fit
18. WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009
19. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (OH!!! Too kiddie also, for u "hardcore" people only la)
20. Star Wars The Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels

OK, WARNING, DUN FLAME ME!!!!
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i think u misread ym question...
i'm talking about 10 good games which u have played...
not the 10/ 20 number of games on the wii for 2008...

cause from the review wise, i'm nt impressed...
so i would want the gamers who loved the games to suggest...
after all one man's meat is another man's poison....

ps: lol at ur pathetic tries to tickle the 'hardcore' issue... i need to say i'm amazed!!!


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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 1 2009, 11:31 PM)
Err, when my Avatar is me hugging MARIO, its pretty OBVIOUS I'm a Nintendo Fanboy tongue.gif

BTW of course I rub my hand in glee when Wii is kicking PEE@$$3.

Just like I celebrate when my team Man Utd won the premier league and UCL last season.

I have waited for 10 years hoping Ninty would come back into the forefront in this console business. My wait has been repaid when Wii are currently the best selling console.

I'M A NINTY FANBOY rclxm9.gif
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thank u sir to prove my point that all those claims by u n ur party on matured discussion on this thread is flawed...

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In 2 weeks time the NPD result for December will come out. Prepare for another avalance of Wii in the States laugh.gif
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In 2 weeks time the NPD result for December will come out. Prepare for another avalance of Wii in the States laugh.gif
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lol...
i guess ur e-peen feels good nw eh...
again thank u for proving ur capabilities for such matured discussion...

QUOTE(corez @ Dec 5 2008, 09:52 AM)
I don't see anything wrong with console selling thread if we can discuss it maturely.

The problem we had before is ppl spamming the thread which leads to it being closed.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:32 PM)
i think u misread ym question...
i'm talking about 10 good games which u have played...
not the 10/ 20 number of games on the wii for 2008...
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Oh!!! kkk
1. Smash Bros. Brawl
2. Rock Band
3. Mario Kart Wii
4. Call Of Duty: World At War
5. Disaster: Day of Crisis
6. Guitar Hero: World Tour
7. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
8. Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2
9. WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009
10. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:36 PM)
Oh!!! kkk
1. Smash Bros. Brawl
2. Rock Band
3. Mario Kart Wii
4. Call Of Duty: World At War
5. Disaster: Day of Crisis
6. Guitar Hero: World Tour
7. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
8. Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2
9. WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009
10. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures
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glad to see mario kart wii in there...
loved it XD
(who say gamers dun like cute games lol)

thanks for the list buddy...
i'll cross reference with my frens nw on some games he should get which is on ur list...

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Why is fanboy a bad word may I ask?

Like supporting a football club, is it wrong to support a console company?

I started my gaming with Nintendo. I stick with them during N64 and NGC when there are almost no games from the third party. I saw how PS and PS2 are getting all the good games and I still shy away from buying one.

Does that means I cannot discuss in a matured discussion just because I support 1 console from 1 company only?

BTW, why did we (Wii owner) have to convince the minority (PS3 & X360) owners that Wii have a vast variety of gaming choices? We are the majority now.

It should be the PS3 and X360 owners must list their good games to entice other ppl to purchase their console, god knows one of them really need help in boosting their sales.

Football Fan - Compare points in the league table.
Console Fanboy - Compare sales figure.
NOW WTH is wrong with that? I just don't get it.
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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 1 2009, 11:50 PM)
Why is fanboy a bad word may I ask?

Like supporting a football club, is it wrong to support a console company?

I started my gaming with Nintendo. I stick with them during N64 and NGC when there are almost no games from the third party. I saw how PS and PS2 are getting all the good games and I still shy away from buying one.

Does that means I cannot discuss in a matured discussion just because I support 1 console from 1 company only?

BTW, why did we (Wii owner) have to convince the minority (PS3 & X360) owners that Wii have a vast variety of gaming choices? We are the majority now.

It should be the PS3 and X360 owners must list their good games to entice other ppl to purchase their console, god knows one of them really need help in boosting their sales.

Football Fan - Compare points in the league table.
Console Fanboy - Compare sales figure.
NOW WTH is wrong with that? I just don't get it.
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no1 ask u or other wii owners to convince other console owners...
ain't ur responsibilities lol...
maybe its time nintendo hire u to help the PR in msia...
gamers jz wanna know wut are the good games to play REGARDLESS of console...

1 liner solution: read back ur own posts and reflect from the first post till the recent ones (how have it degraded)...

ps: i'm a man utd fan as well and u are really doh.gif

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:57 PM)
no1 ask u or other wii owners to convince other console owners...
ain't ur responsibilities lol...
maybe its time nintendo hire u to help the PR in msia...
gamers jz wanna know wut are the good games to play REGARDLESS or console...

1 liner solution: read back ur own posts and reflect from the first post till the recent ones (how have it degraded)...

ps: i'm a man utd fan as well and u are really  doh.gif
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No need my help bro for PR. 35 MILLION CONSOLES.
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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 2 2009, 12:02 AM)
No need my help bro for PR. 35 MILLION CONSOLES.
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well guess u nvr learn...
especially after ur matured first post in the thread...
well no point replying u anymore...
have fun gaming n cheers...

i think its obvious where this thread is heading from here...
unless u are a fanboy of nintendo, stay out!!! even if u love the games on the console, u sitll get flames lol...

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I love both company, just that u go more to the Nintendo site. I used to be a Sony fanboy of sony 3 years ago, i even go as far as to say Nintendo Sucks. But one day, my friend bought a DS and showed it to me, i drooled when i see him playing MPH with the touch screen thing. Then i bough a DS, and sooner, i lost touch of my PS2, lol XD. Then, i used to wished to own a PS3, but i think the motion sensor thing is very nice, so i go for nintendo since my fren showed me his DS. But i still love Sony tot, but no as much as Nintendo biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 2 2009, 12:11 AM)
I love both company, just that u go more to the Nintendo site. I used to be a Sony fanboy of sony 3 years ago, i even go as far as to say Nintendo Sucks. But one day, my friend bought a DS and showed it to me, i drooled when i see him playing MPH with the touch screen thing. Then i bough a DS, and sooner, i lost touch of my PS2, lol XD. Then, i used to wished to own a PS3, but i think the motion sensor thing is very nice, so i go for nintendo since my fren showed me his DS. But i still love Sony tot, but no as much as Nintendo biggrin.gif
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lol i remember how addictive ninja gaiden DS was...
class 5 minutes break i'll be playing it lol...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 2 2009, 12:23 AM)
lol i remember how addictive ninja gaiden DS was...
class 5 minutes break i'll be playing it lol...
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LOL, after UPSR i play MPH everyday on my friends DS without the teacher knowing biggrin.gif biggrin.gif XD
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 2 2009, 12:26 AM)
LOL, after UPSR i play MPH everyday on my friends DS without the teacher knowing biggrin.gif biggrin.gif XD
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swt lol...
anyways we both agree nintendo is a great brand in gaming...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 09:06 PM)
@ PhoenixByte
ya the fanboyism of this thread is getting worse while they are still claiming to be in matured discussion...
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ya..i'm just confused...coz I own the wii, I love my wii...my only complaint is that of late...i didn't enjoy it as much after RE4, Zelda and No More Heroes came out. That is similar to my complaint about the psp b4 that it lacks the game i like after God of War and Crisis Core (dissidia? ermm hv to wait n see..but am looking forward to Kingdom Hearts and that Killzone game). It's the same complaint which is about games...not the console. doh.gif

Just because some of us wii owner here complaint about it doesn't mean we don't like it as a whole.

Who would be happier if the console i own hv more games to my liking? I AM!

Though, I agree..between my Wii n my DS, i like my DS more nod.gif

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 1 2009, 11:29 PM)
y i need u?
cause u own a wii, u love the games so i would definately request 10 good wii games for you (not for other ppl)...
after all u loved it, so it might be easier for me to recommend some good games to my frens who own a wii out there...
i'm sure u played more than 10 good wii games for 2008 rite?
and u have my word, after listing the list, i wont touch on the list at all (i'll keep it to myself, no comments etc)...


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That is very easy to do, i will list 20, but i am not sure the release year:

1. Animal Crossing
2. Animal Crossing
3. Animal Crossing
4. Animal Crossing
5. Animal Crossing
6. Animal Crossing
7. Animal Crossing
8. Animal Crossing
9. Animal Crossing
10. Animal Crossing
11. De Blob (Damn charming, damn nice, and very cute)
12. Mario Kart Wii (Samus very sexy, Princess Peach very cute)
13. Samba de Amigo (Ariba! Ariba! Amigo!)
14. Super Mario Galaxy (No dispute?)
15. World of Goo (WiiWare - 800 Wii points got me an excellent game at huge bargain)
16. No More Heroes (Very stylish, very fresh, very engaging)
17. Metroid Corruption (Samus very sexy)
18. Okami Wii (So original, celestial brush is a magic with Wii-mote)
19. Smash Bros
20. LostWind (Only 800 Wii Points, also very charming very cheap)
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slow down neogeo..u might get a heart attack..happy.gif
as for the years and games:

for the wii:
http://wii.ign.com/index/choice.html?order...&sort.order=asc

for the ps3:
http://ps3.ign.com/index/choice.html?order...&sort.order=asc

for the 360:
http://xbox360.ign.com/index/choice.html?o...&sort.order=asc

take ur guys picking...oh i wish i hv them all biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 2 2009, 09:04 AM)
That is very easy to do, i will list 20, but i am not sure the release year:

1. Animal Crossing
2. Animal Crossing
3. Animal Crossing
4. Animal Crossing
5. Animal Crossing
6. Animal Crossing
7. Animal Crossing
8. Animal Crossing
9. Animal Crossing
10. Animal Crossing
11. De Blob (Damn charming, damn nice, and very cute)
12. Mario Kart Wii (Samus very sexy, Princess Peach very cute)
13. Samba de Amigo (Ariba! Ariba! Amigo!)
14. Super Mario Galaxy (No dispute?)
15. World of Goo (WiiWare - 800 Wii points got me an excellent game at huge bargain)
16. No More Heroes (Very stylish, very fresh, very engaging)
17. Metroid Corruption (Samus very sexy)
18. Okami Wii (So original, celestial brush is a magic with Wii-mote)
19. Smash Bros
20. LostWind (Only 800 Wii Points, also very charming very cheap)
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LOL, 1 to 10 all animal crossing.
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 2 2009, 05:38 AM)
ya..i'm just confused...coz I own the wii, I love my wii...my only complaint is that of late...i didn't enjoy it as much after RE4, Zelda and No More Heroes came out. That is similar to my complaint about the psp b4 that it lacks the game i like after God of War and Crisis Core (dissidia? ermm hv to wait n see..but am looking forward to Kingdom Hearts and that Killzone game). It's the same complaint which is about games...not the console.  doh.gif

Just because some of us wii owner here complaint about it doesn't mean we don't like it as a whole.

Who would be happier if the console i own hv more games to my liking? I AM!

Though, I agree..between my Wii n my DS, i like my DS more  nod.gif
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i've tried the jap version of dissidia, its good ^^

@ neo
LOL 10 animal crossing rclxms.gif
as i promise, i wont touch the list XD
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 2 2009, 12:59 PM)
i've tried the jap version of dissidia, its good ^^

@ neo
LOL 10 animal crossing  rclxms.gif
as i promise, i wont touch the list XD
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Haha, u r a gentlemen Evo, u kept ur promise.

Honestly I don't understand why Animal Crossing is so addictive....
U tell me to give a reason, i can't.
But I am bloody addicted, and always tried to find excuse to go home from work early (Dun tell my boss sad.gif )

It is addictive on DS, on GC, and now Wii.
This bloody Nintendo seriously has a way to squeeze money from my wallet. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 2 2009, 12:45 PM)
LOL, 1 to 10 all animal crossing.
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It felt like 10 games to me XD

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 2 2009, 02:11 PM)
Haha, u r a gentlemen Evo, u kept ur promise.

Honestly I don't understand why Animal Crossing is so addictive....
U tell me to give a reason, i can't.
But I am bloody addicted, and always tried to find excuse to go home from work early (Dun tell my boss  sad.gif )

It is addictive on DS, on GC, and now Wii.
This bloody Nintendo seriously has a way to squeeze money from my wallet.  tongue.gif


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It felt like 10 games to me XD
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i can actually get wut u mean...
it should be same when i first played harvest moon back then haha...
its always a good series (back on gc)...

ps: the zelda team is back on working on their new title so hope i'll be another ocarina of time...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 2 2009, 02:39 PM)
i can actually get wut u mean...
it should be same when i first played harvest moon back then haha...
its always a good series (back on gc)...

ps: the zelda team is back on working on their new title so hope i'll be another ocarina of time...
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Well, actually really hope they will make a new title for metroid again. Metroid Prime 4: ????. lol
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zelda laaa..me want a really new zelda for the wii biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 2 2009, 04:01 PM)
zelda laaa..me want a really new zelda for the wii biggrin.gif
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me only starting to play the two GC zeldas now.....nvmind nintendo take ur time, so long as it's good! icon_idea.gif
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MMMMMEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 2 2009, 04:32 PM)
MMMMMEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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ZELDA first la!!!!!!!

Shigeru said a Zelda game in under development, but he didn't say Metroid rclxs0.gif


(Try to incite a civil war brows.gif )


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QUOTE(why_79 @ Jan 2 2009, 04:23 PM)
me only starting to play the two GC zeldas now.....nvmind nintendo take ur time, so long as it's good!  icon_idea.gif
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I am replaying Zelda Windwaker also!
I just got the English version,
i played the JPN version, struggled through the whole game many years back.

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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 2 2009, 04:41 PM)
ZELDA first la!!!!!!!

Shigeru said a Zelda game in under development, but he didn't say Metroid  rclxs0.gif


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I am replaying Zelda Windwaker also!
I just got the English version,
i played the JPN version, struggled through the whole game many years back.
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THATS Y I WANNA SCOLD SHIGERU XD XD XD, lol, kidding la biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Heero Yuy @ Jan 2 2009, 04:45 PM)
THATS Y I WANNA SCOLD SHIGERU XD XD XD, lol, kidding la  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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What? rolleyes.gif
U wanna scold His Royal Highness Shigeru? shocking.gif

Seriously, hold your breath for a Zelda in 2009,
quite possible.
When it is release all Zelda/Wii fans will burst out in tears,
kneel and thank His Royal Highness for another favor granted.
Then Nintendo will earn another tonnes of money, like they always do. wink.gif
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windwaker looks sweet.... love the art direction, it looks like a pixar movie in motion.

i'm starting to appreciated ninty first-party more and more, of course anything good from the third-party dev is also a bonus. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
What?  rolleyes.gif
U wanna scold His Royal Highness Shigeru?  shocking.gif

Seriously, hold your breath for a Zelda in 2009,
quite possible.
When it is release all Zelda/Wii fans will burst out in tears,
kneel and thank His Royal Highness for another favor granted.
Then Nintendo will earn another tonnes of money, like they always do.  wink.gif
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
What?  rolleyes.gif
U wanna scold His Royal Highness Shigeru?  shocking.gif

Seriously, hold your breath for a Zelda in 2009,
quite possible.
When it is release all Zelda/Wii fans will burst out in tears,
kneel and thank His Royal Highness for another favor granted.
Then Nintendo will earn another tonnes of money, like they always do.  wink.gif
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i think its pretty much late 2009 or early 2010...
since it was announced nt long ago only...
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 2 2009, 04:49 PM)
What?  rolleyes.gif
U wanna scold His Royal Highness Shigeru?  shocking.gif

Seriously, hold your breath for a Zelda in 2009,
quite possible.
When it is release all Zelda/Wii fans will burst out in tears,
kneel and thank His Royal Highness for another favor granted.
Then Nintendo will earn another tonnes of money, like they always do.  wink.gif
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This is what happens when they suddenly inform the fans there are a new Zelda in develpoment.

E3 2004 if I'm not mistaken.



cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif of joy.
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QUOTE(corez @ Jan 2 2009, 05:55 PM)
This is what happens when they suddenly inform the fans there are a new Zelda in develpoment.

E3 2004 if I'm not mistaken.



cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  of joy.
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But he said its not going to be out on the next E3. Shigeru said.
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the JOY of Zelda!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wii's succes reminds me of how the legendary Commodore 64 personal computer was so hugely successful and dominant in 1980s.

I think Nintendo's following Mr.Jack Tramiel's (founder of Commodore 64) business philosophy of 'make it inexpensive and let it flood the market'.
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QUOTE(Ray78 @ Jan 4 2009, 11:41 PM)
Wii's succes reminds me of how the legendary Commodore 64 personal computer was so hugely successful and dominant in 1980s.

I think Nintendo's following Mr.Jack Tramiel's (founder of Commodore 64) business philosophy of 'make it inexpensive and let it flood the market'.
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You have perhaps underestimated Satoru Iwata.
If Nintendo were to rely solely on "Make it cheap and flood the market",
XBOX 360 Arcade should be the one flooding the market now.
It didn't happened.

The competition landscape in 2000s, is vastly different from the 1980s.
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 5 2009, 09:03 AM)
You have perhaps underestimated Satoru Iwata.
If Nintendo were to rely solely on "Make it cheap and flood the market",
XBOX 360 Arcade should be the one flooding the market now.
It didn't happened.

The competition landscape in 2000s, is vastly different from the 1980s.
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dun forget, from the sales details, parents are really fond to get their kids wii...
its a great marketing strategy...
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ya..like i said previously on ninty's thread...nintendo did a good job of identifying this target group. smile.gif

So i think, if some ppl are not really into wii, it's because they're not in the target group. Just face it, parents hv more buying power compared to the kids...and when it's come to giving out gifts..they are also the most generous ones.

U don't see many friends gave away that amount of money to another friend let alone buying a friend a game console...but as a parent, grand parent, uncle...etc...money is not really an issue...and when coming out to get the console..of course the nintendo types of games and controls caught their attention the most smile.gif
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Jan 5 2009, 10:07 AM)
dun forget, from the sales details, parents are really fond to get their kids wii...
its a great marketing strategy...
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Also need to remember that Parents / Grandparents picked up hints from the kids / teenagers.
Marketing researchers call this the "Letter's to Santa" moment,
so the kids / teenagers are actually the one calling the shot for Christmas presents.

Parents don't just watch Oprah Winfrey and decided to get a Wii for their kids Christmas.





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QUOTE(kalue @ Jan 5 2009, 11:46 AM)
Wii Have the best controller...
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no no. It's actually Nintendo always brings out the best controller. They always bring innovative designs that work wonders to us all.

Sunny and Moneysoft are copy catters. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 5 2009, 11:15 AM)
Also need to remember that Parents / Grandparents picked up hints from the kids / teenagers.
Marketing researchers call this the "Letter's to Santa" moment,
so the kids / teenagers are actually the one calling the shot for Christmas presents.

Parents don't just watch Oprah Winfrey and decided to get a Wii for their kids Christmas.
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yeah..nowadays...not just oprah, Ellen Degeneres also promotes Wii nod.gif

Nintendo also manages to successfuly reach out to the female gender too which b4 this, a rare species of gamer (they exists but not many going to the console) smile.gif

Even my wife who was a non gamer b4 this is liking the wii n ds...that's why nintendo dominate smile.gif
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I notice that most of the SEGA games that are not available on 360/PS3, are available (and will be released) on the Wii. Sonic & The Secret Rings, NiGHTS, Madworld, Sonic & The Black Knight.. etc.

And also that awesome looking Capcom fighting game: 'something' Vs Capcom.. (I forgot the name.. somebody correct me) blush.gif

Hmm... might consider getting a Nintendo system. brows.gif
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Argghhhhhhhhhhhh..PAPER MARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel like wanna pull mario and luigi out and eat them........soooooooo Cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.......
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If you can play Tatsunoko Vs Capcom in an unmodded US Wii machine, u let me noe quick. Freeloader don't work no more. sad.gif
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^ go buy a japanese wii tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jan 5 2009, 03:04 PM)
If you can play Tatsunoko Vs Capcom in an unmodded US Wii machine, u let me noe quick. Freeloader don't work no more. sad.gif
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Thanks, bro. icon_rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Jan 5 2009, 02:59 PM)
I notice that most of the SEGA games that are not available on 360/PS3, are available (and will be released) on the Wii. Sonic & The Secret Rings, NiGHTS, Madworld, Sonic & The Black Knight.. etc. 

And also that awesome looking Capcom fighting game: 'something' Vs Capcom.. (I forgot the name.. somebody correct me) blush.gif

Hmm... might consider getting a Nintendo system.  brows.gif
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Tatsunoko vs Capcom

Oh yes, Sonic & Secret Ring is a Sonic game that don't suck, quite rare nowadays eh?
Totally waiting for the new Sonic & the Black Knight, seems good.
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I tot sonic unleashed on the wii was pretty decent what...smile.gif
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QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 5 2009, 05:40 PM)
I tot sonic unleashed on the wii was pretty decent what...smile.gif
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I heard the were-hog night part is pretty sucks, at least on the 360 it is -- SUCKS
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i just played the demo happy.gif no were-hog part for that tongue.gif
but the sonic part was pretty splendid smile.gif
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QUOTE(neogeocdz @ Jan 5 2009, 05:45 PM)
I heard the were-hog night part is pretty sucks, at least on the 360 it is -- SUCKS
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I tried the PS2 version... Yeah, that part suck too. sad.gif
Sonic & The Secret Rings wasn't developed by Sonic Team, rite bro?

QUOTE(PhoenixByte @ Jan 5 2009, 05:48 PM)
i just played the demo happy.gif no were-hog part for that tongue.gif
but the sonic part was pretty splendid smile.gif
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Yes agreed. The Sonic part was quite entertaining actually.
I think if SEGA included those werehog levels in the demo, you definitely won't buy the game, bro. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nizam80 @ Jan 5 2009, 06:26 PM)
I tried the PS2 version... Yeah, that part suck too. sad.gif 
Sonic & The Secret Rings wasn't developed by Sonic Team, rite bro?
Yes agreed. The Sonic part was quite entertaining actually.
I think if SEGA included those werehog levels in the demo, you definitely won't buy the game, bro. laugh.gif
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_and_the_Secret_Rings

Yes, it is developed by the Sonic Team.
Oh yes, there is another SONIC game that doesn't suck - Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood.
An RPG for DS, very decent, and i have completed it months ago while going on vacation.

At least there are 2 decent Sonic games, SEGA fans rejoice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Chornic...ark_Brotherhood
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Sonic on the DS so far didn't suck happy.gif
That's why I love that DS of mine smile.gif
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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Dec 5 2008, 01:10 PM)
even my gf would said this "what wii for my birthday , come-on"..
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Late but...

Maybe she mean the other "wii".... brows.gif brows.gif

 

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