I am just waiting for self-profess "hardcore gamers" to come in to preach to innocents gamers that were conned by Nintendo's fad, gimmicky Wii console.

"Wii is a fad!!!"
"Wii is for sissy / kiddie / girls / housewives / grandma / fat ppl..."
they will proclaimed.

"Wii is not for hardcore gamers!"
"Wii destroyed the gaming community!"
"Wii has no hardcore games!"
they will cry.

Oh the hardcore gamers are so predictable.

U did see meh? Come liao la, soon soon....
patience la, sure got.

Hardcore or HD gamers sure come out in hordes to defend Gameland from Wii invasion,
like Delta Team defending Jacinto from Locusts.

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Added on December 5, 2008, 4:35 pmHaha, agree.
The biggest voodoo spell ever cast by Shiggy on people,
Turn them into waggling Zombie, invading Gameland at night.

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 5 2008, 04:35 PM

Correct also,
Gotta learned to have some faith.

Come on dude, it is the exploding Brumak & the Big Big worm that sink it la,
we just shot some silly laser only. LOL!

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 6 2008, 12:42 AM

U serious? Cuz of Wii-Fit???

I bought it for Zelda & Mario,
Mario Galaxy is epic,
but i am still waiting for Zelda.
(Twilight Princess is a GameCube game damn it!)

I guess this add to the Wii domination power.

Yep,
it surprised me also.
I thought Nintendo will go SEGA way end of this generation,
Wii will be like DreamCast.

But well.... i should not have listened to experts.

Yes, there are many ppl that is disappointed with Wii,
But majority of the Game-consumers this generation, are just like me - love the Wii, and no, Wii is not JUST a party machines to us.
There are already 40 Million people bought Wii,
and Wii continue to sell like MAD, 800,000 Wiis was sold on Black Friday week alone!

Don't tell me there 40 million party-animals, I don't see so many party goes on,
and don't tell me with all the millions SMG, Smash Bro, Mario Kart, Zelda.... that was sold,
and people STILL argued that Wii are collecting dusk, maybe the Wii that those complaining people owned are collecting dusk,
MOST Wii DON'T!
Look at the amount of games sold, look at the games chart, look at new games that comes,
It is obvious that most Wii don't collect dusk.
That Wii-collect-dusk argument just doesn't add up to me.

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 9 2008, 11:17 PM

You could use some reasons in your argument.

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Added on December 9, 2008, 11:15 pmPS3, 360 and Wii are now "this gen".

Why is it so?
Why Wii is not this gen?
It is the "graphic argument" you dwell on?

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Added on December 9, 2008, 11:20 pmI told you so Sniper, here they comes.

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 9 2008, 11:20 PM

@jenniferjen

Yes... I admit that i stress out a bit. Looking at some uneducated posts makes me stress out. Ok ok, i relax... relax... relax... peace.... shalom... shanti....

Yes u r right. It all depend on personal taste, and i really don't see the point when ppl started to ridicules other's choices, using rude and mean words.

@snipersnake

I agree with u on Monster Hunter 3.
I don't agree with the "not shallow" agreement. I don't think someone that used words like "Wee Wee" (means penis in Australia & NZ), "kindergarden" or "ur console last gen", have any serious depth and reasons in them. Besides trying to --- Ridicule.

Give me a break.

Nintendo is not only a soft spot to me, it is an important part of my childhood. So many fun and happy moment with friends and family were spent around the jumping plumber called Mario, or the green hero Link.

Mario is an icon for many gamers childhood, so I don't think it is wrong to demand some respect for an important cultural icon. To see someone labeling your childhood hero as "Wee Wee", "Kindergarden", "oh so last gen", is an insults.

Nintendo as a company I must say not only survived on innovation, but the loyalty of Nintendo fans that they've created along the years. Nintendo fans are not some fanatics fanboys, but people that remember their childhood fondly, and that continue to have fun with DS & Wii.

I think people that enter gaming in PS1 era will not have a soft spot for Nintendo. During PS1 era, even Sonic is not speeding on Saturn. Did we not respect their Ace Combat, Rayman, Snake? Did we said their games are utter bullshit? No we didn't, in fact I enjoy these games as well.

So personally think this Wii bashing should stop, for goodness sake.

Edited for Grammar & Spelling

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 10 2008, 11:10 AM

Yes. When I read that entry I was like --- huh?

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Added on December 10, 2008, 12:05 pmYeehah! SNK FTW! NeoGeo FTW!!

I am still waiting for Zelda Wii as well. Twilight Princess is great on GameCube,
because it is made for GameCube, it felt sort of lacking when it came to Wii.

Oh yes, Kyo I bet u have played the Phantom Hourglass on DS? Nice eh?

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Added on December 10, 2008, 12:14 pmYes yes, on Link cross bow training,
it is indeed kind of FP Zelda.

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 10 2008, 12:14 PM

Some people argue that Gamers are too emotionally engaged to their consoles. I would think it is rather natural, because Gaming is such a powerful hobby that get u involved emotionally.

Allow me to further my reasoning. Lets say you owned SNES during childhood, grown up on Mario Zelda & Street Fighters 2. These games not only engaged u for hours and hours, they also are something that u shares with cousins and classmates. It is a source of joy, when u scored an A on English, your daddy get u a Super Mario 3 as a rewards. Perhaps you have take it for granted when your grandma let you played your Mario 3 on TV, while she sacrifice her favourite TV shows.

Years passed. You graduated, left your childhood classmates, cousins got married, neighbors migrated, your daddy mommy grew old, perhaps your grandma has since passed away. What is left of your childhood? Yes, that friend named Mario. Mario is still kicking Bowser's butt and saving princess Peach, continue to entertain perhaps your very own kid on Wii & DS.

You know, when u see that Italian plumber jumping on Wii, you felt nostalgic, happy and entertained. It is very obvious that Mario games have always been beacon of video game entertainment, but besides being a good videogame, do u know why u love Mario?

Because you are grateful, when u r still a little boy, ur daddy used the little money he earned and get u a SNES & Mario. Just to make u happy and entertained. He is now old, and he always wants the best for u, u felt grateful.
Because you miss your grandma that have since passed away. Your grandma rather see you happy playing Mario, than let herself indulge in that TV show. She is now not around, and u always felt awkward during festive season without her.
Because you remember your childhood classmates, the neighbour that has since migrated. You guys shared your SNES cartridges, and discuss ways to beat that Rockman final boss. They are bunch of fun guys, compare to the horrible colleagues you have now.

So everytime u see Mario, Nintendo, Zelda.... u felt nostalgic and grateful, and u r glad coz your childhood hero is still kicking butt.

When these bunch of people that called themselves "HD hardcore gamers", "Next Gen Gamers", "Defenders of TRUE games" came in and insults Nintendo, it is rather natural that people like me felt outrage.

So for goodness sake, Stop all the insults.

Kyo, I agree with u.

Let me explain further.

Fanboyism is like when you fell in love with a HK Singer for example Vivian Chow (Zhou-Hui-Min), those olden days she is sweet, cute and her smiles can kill you. You fell in love and u bought all her music, and watched all her movies. Then she grew old, she is no longer sweet, so u forgot about her and u moves on. You are in a state call "Fanboyism".

Loyalty is like u and your wife. She was once pretty, but she married u, have your kids, and perhaps not as hot as before. Still you love her in health in sickness, in rich or poor. There is not one thought in you that you would abandon her, because of all the things you two went through.

I agree that everyone is entitle to their opinion, and of course they could argue it in a civilised way - like jenniferjen, u r a gentlemen!
But the moment someone cross the line and start insulting, he should be loathe of his barbaric behaviour.

Perhaps you doesn't mean that majority of Wii's was bought for gift?

If that argument hold true,
there are 40 millions of people bought 40 millions of Wii for another 40 millions of people.
And every single days, there are thousands of people bought thousands of Wii for thousands of people.
Because it is Cheap.

Since when human being becomes so charitable? US$249 is not a small amount of money.

Also, if the argument holds true,
PS2 or XBOX 360 Arcade should be the perfect gift, why it hasn't?

Also, if your argument holds true,
why Wii games were sold in tonnes after tonnes?
Have u look at Wii 2009 games catalogue yet? Noticed the amount of so called "core games" coming?

Wii sold these well, because Nintendo has made a great entertainment device,
that is fun and accessible, and affordable,
and the King - Consumers have spoken with FULL FORCE:"We loves the Wii."

Yes. MS is stick to getting the most out of their resources, and basically give up fighting for number 1.
There is now no way anyone could challenge Wii's momentum.
And i gotta admit MS did a great job.

Hey Jenniferjen u already have a Wii right? U will be glad next year, and next year is less than 1 month.
We could be exchanging Wii friend code soon.

This post has been edited by neogeocdz: Dec 10 2008, 02:36 PM

Mmmm.... surely they would release that for US right?

Besides the one you've mentioned, Madworld would be nice,
Dragon Quest 10 is going to Wii.
Deadly Creatures, Punch Out, Final Fantasy Echos of Time & Crystal Bearers,
Tenchu, Cursed Mountain..... don't remember all.

Also it is likely that there will be a new Mario or Zelda announced,
as hinted by Shigeru.

Hard time for me, cause i owned a 360 as well,
not rich enough to get all of them.
Also all the retro consoles i targeted to buy....
my goodness, i gotta go to Genting to try my luck,
if not hard to pay for all the games.

Agree.

All hail the Overseer.

Given the income level that people in ASEAN have,
a consoles that can be hacked will continue to enjoy popularity like PS2.
Example, Wii.

However, when u go to a country that have few times of income the ASEAN level,
the desire to pirate a game become lower, and original games are actually quite affordable
for people earning Australia, Japan or US income.
Of course there are still pirates, but at a much lower number than ASEAN.

So, Piracy is a contributing factor in the popularity,
perhaps not the MAIN factor for Wii's worldwide success, imo.

Look at your consoles collection,
your are the hardcorest of the hardcore,
mother of all gamers, King of the Game Kingdom.

LOL!
Sigh.... I wish i am as rich as him, sigh (Very loud)........

@jenniferjen

Besides the games that I told you that is available on Wii,
Me also looking forward to FF13, RE5, Halo Wars, SF 4.... on 360 as well.
I just finished Gears of War 2, and playing Fallout 3 & Animal Crossing Wii.

At the same time i am playing Samurai Spirit RPG, guess what, on Neo Geo CDZ now,
that game that Gumdamalpha reluctantly sold to me.

It seems, i have a much broader taste.

I am sorry that u found Wii uninteresting.

Oh, I don't have a single ahem games, although i am not rich.