My girl also dont like vege but i uses a food processor to blend the vege into a paste.. mixing with grinded meat.. its impossible to pick it out and they will have to eat!! Wahahah!! 1 one my fren actually mix it with eggs or yogurt to coax her doggie to eat.

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My girl also dont like vege but i uses a food processor to blend the vege into a paste.. mixing with grinded meat.. its impossible to pick it out and they will have to eat!! Wahahah!! 1 one my fren actually mix it with eggs or yogurt to coax her doggie to eat.

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bleng the vege is ok la but if grind the meat and bone means they cant chew it right ?
may i know what vege u give them ? i find that the smell after vege is blende is really bad

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Added on December 10, 2008, 11:16 am[quote=aureliux,Dec 10 2008, 10:46 AM]
My girl also dont like vege but i uses a food processor to blend the vege into a paste.. mixing with grinded meat.. its impossible to pick it out and they will have to eat!! Wahahah!! 1 one my fren actually mix it with eggs or yogurt to coax her doggie to eat.

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what breed is your dog ah ?

This post has been edited by leekenneth39: Dec 10 2008, 11:16 AM

Blending veggie does give off a weird smell but it can be covered up with yogurt and the juices from meat.

My dogs are eating BARF diet from Pet Epicure now, it's mixed with lots of different stuff. But sometimes I do my own, minus the grounded bones coz I got no grinder, so i give whole bones like chicken soft bones, necks and carcass.

The veggies and a bit of fruit I used goes like this:
Green peas
carrot
pumpkin
cucumber
apple
spinach
broccoli
sawi
bell pepper

everything in small bits only, all in a food processor until a puree and I freeze it into ice cubes. Everyday at dinner time I just defrost one ice cube of veggie puree and mix with the meat and offal for my dogs.

My dogs lick everything clean. I also supplement with fish oil and kelp meal.

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Added on December 10, 2008, 5:55 pmIt is best not to mix raw food with processed kibbles. I mentioned it before somewhere here about what happens to the stomach when kibbles and raw are eaten at the same time.

Chicken as a very neutral smell.... so your dog may want something with a stronger smell. No dog of mine have ever turned away from raw food.

Try putting a few different kind of meats together, along with liver. The veggie puree, just give a bit like a teaspoon and mix with some yogurt.

Read here about Barf and kibbles
http://www.querycat.com/faq/b8f66cfc112490c3fa61a6d53b693dbd

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Dec 10 2008, 05:55 PM

I have a super-tiny toy poodle, she's bout 2months+ and less den 500gram..
Can i start feed her BARF now onward???

Yes you can. I read that a breeder overseas feed puppies BARF when they are 3.5 weeks old. Anyway, I'm also feeding my puppy with Barf but in small portions now. My adult is taking mostly BARF with kibbles once a while.

Read this
http://www.ukbarfclub.co.uk/barf-success-s...ies-on-barf.php

Can

my dog also start BARF from 2 month old

Thanks all for reply...

As i found out some of u.. prepare and keep the meat and vegie pureen separetely.. When time to feed only mix up both.
But for myself will mix up everythg when preparing, meat and vegie, then divide to 1 meal portion for each bag and store in freezer.
Is that any different for the both method above??

Is up to you I guess. When I buy the prepacked BARF, everything including the veggie and fruits is inside already. If I do myself, I separate coz I make too much veggie puree for my stock of meat.

2month old no teeth how to chew on it ?

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Added on December 10, 2008, 9:32 pmyou buy those all grind and blend ? i read barf have to give in chunck so for them to exercise the jaw and clear from tar tar correct ?

This post has been edited by leekenneth39: Dec 10 2008, 09:32 PM

2 month old no teeth? For a human baby yes but a puppy would already have it's teeth all out already. Of course it is not the adult teeth but they got pretty sharp baby teeth.

but not strong to chew the bones right ?

Well, for puppies we normally give soft bones like there is a soft bone where the chicken breast is. Then winglets or chicken neck, just for them to nibble. They won't really chew and swallow everything now coz still learning. Most of their bone intake would be from the grounded bones in the BARF food.

it is nice to learn here

i give mine frozen as it is hard and can exercise its jaws. Now i give pork bone, but seems that it is hard to bite even for my super chewer Jack Russell...

Just a note for those who want to start BARF,

Make sure you have the knowledge on BARF feeding. Some people might say if you are scare that you can't give a complete balance meal, just buy the pre-packed one. Before you BLINDLY buy them, ask them for the ingredient PRECISELY and the proportion of them. Our BARF market in Malaysia is still not well developed. Not like the other country, where they have this company preparing BARF with all the nutrition tested.

Main concern, source of the meat. If it is chicken, ask them what kind of chicken, pasar chicken or carrefour chicken. Ask them, rib, thigh, drumstick or what? If offals added, is it beef/lamb/chicken/pork? Grounded meat and bone. How many % of meat? How many % of bone? Vegetables added, specific what is the vegetables, and how much was added? Supplement added, and what supplement is that? Named it to the details. But I can rest assure you, they won't be telling you 100% because its their "Secret Recipe". And please be aware that your dogs on BARF need a rotation of food. Sticking to one recipe won't do your dog good. Go for more variety for more balance vitamin and minerals.

Be aware of some bad traders adding in cheapo meat and sell at higher price. I don't know if there is any at the current market, but please be aware. Do not risk your dogs' life.

Best of BARF, learn and do it yourself, so you get to see how it is prepared, the hygiene, and confident about what goes into your dogs' stomach. Learn about supplements, and how much to be added. Over dose will do no good.

I am not against anybody here, just voice out my opinion.

So wat the perfect ratio for meat vs bone ar???

This post has been edited by Doraemon11: Dec 11 2008, 05:49 PM

I'm not a nutritionist, so I can't tell how much is perfect. Even then, a lot professionals saying different things. I am just stressing that you need to know what you are feeding, not risking your dog's life. Know what goes into your dog's stomach. Perhaps we should ask their opinion regarding how much meat n bone is the "perfect" combination.

Furthermore, each type of meat contain different amount of calcium n phosphorus, hence the amount of bone needed is different too.

This post has been edited by iluv2zzz: Dec 11 2008, 07:41 PM

Anyone can help out to provide any info with perfect ratio for meat vs bone in BARF ??

From what I follow, Meaty bones is normally 60 to 80% of the diet, and meaty means the bones with 50% meat and 50% bones on them. Feeding meat alone without bones is not so good coz phosphorus level.... the bones is a source of calcium. Another diet ppl follow is the prey diet, which is 80% meat and meaty organs, 10% bones and 10% offal.

Glad I know what goes in and the quality of the products in the raw food I get, but yah, we must give variety, so rotating different sorts of meats, bones, offal is a must to gain proper nutrition.