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DIY T-Amp User V2, TA2020 AIR CORES!, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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abel
post Nov 30 2008, 02:10 PM

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ermm make me wanna built one T-amp ... smile.gif
can this T-amp feed with 14v DC .... ?


Added on November 30, 2008, 2:28 pm
QUOTE(Najmods @ Nov 29 2008, 11:01 PM)
Been a while since I done something to my T-Amp. I use Senior discreet amp, now the soundstage is very wide and unbelievably deep, before this everything is in your face, like if you hear artists performs on stage, all the instruments is at the same level as the singer, now everything sits where it supposed to be, and even layers of vocal is prominent, my favorite artists love to use her whisper vocal behind her singing vocal, now I can hear that without any trouble

Another mod I done is using separate power from my PC PSU because when I game, I hear some noise because of my graphics card emit strange high frequency noise to the power line (its normal, as I read around, some components on graphics card emit that, forgot what it is called), I found one old 450W PSU lying around, I open it up, replaced few capacitor with higher quality and jumpstart it to power T-Amp. 15Amps of current available to the T-Amp only. I don't know if that sufficient enough to give boom to it tongue.gif Because the load is so low, I run it totally passive. How does it sounds? Wonderful biggrin.gif
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suggess not to use solid state PSU

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ijan
post Nov 30 2008, 02:33 PM

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Back on the PSU requirement, since the unit is SUPPOSEDLY ran on 8xAA battery, power input shuld be that high at output power of 10W into 8ohm. Say getting a 15V out tranny regulated to 12V, at most 30VA is good enough eh? Iq is too little to even bother, this shud lead to proper operation of the chip?

The datasheet isnt of much help..

However, a 1A 12V dc jack shud be able to run it eh? Got my new *baby* liao..
Najmods
post Nov 30 2008, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(abel @ Nov 30 2008, 02:10 PM)
ermm make me wanna built one T-amp ... smile.gif
can this T-amp feed with 14v DC .... ?


Added on November 30, 2008, 2:28 pm

suggess not to use solid state PSU
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IIRC maximum you can go is 13.8V. If you use 14V maybe it can run, but it won't last long

About the 'not using solid state PSU', please elaborate
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post Nov 30 2008, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Nov 30 2008, 02:40 PM)
IIRC maximum you can go is 13.8V. If you use 14V maybe it can run, but it won't last long

About the 'not using solid state PSU', please elaborate
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means not using computer PSU .... using those AC transformer than put rectified to convert to DC

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post Nov 30 2008, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(abel @ Nov 30 2008, 02:44 PM)
means not using computer PSU .... using those AC transformer than put rectified to convert to DC
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Any advantages of doing so?
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post Nov 30 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Nov 30 2008, 02:50 PM)
Any advantages of doing so?
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normally when u used motor or Switching PSU , its becomes distorted
jazzy939
post Nov 30 2008, 06:21 PM

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SMPS is switching PSU! laugh.gif
The T-Amp works well with switching PSU, linear or even battery! (SLA)..
It is not your normal chip amp. Its a Class T and/or D... normal believe/school of thoughts about SMPS being 'dirty' does not apply here... laugh.gif

ijan, a 12V 1A should suffice but higher is 'better' I am using a 4.2A at 13.6VDC

QUOTE(abel @ Nov 30 2008, 02:57 PM)
normally when u used motor or Switching PSU , its becomes distorted
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post Nov 30 2008, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Nov 30 2008, 06:21 PM)
SMPS is switching PSU! laugh.gif
The T-Amp works well with switching PSU, linear or even battery! (SLA)..
It is not your normal chip amp. Its a Class T and/or D... normal believe/school of thoughts about SMPS being 'dirty' does not apply here...  laugh.gif 

ijan, a 12V 1A should suffice but higher is 'better' I am using a 4.2A at 13.6VDC
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ohhh i dunno mah hehehe tongue.gif
thanks for the information

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post Dec 2 2008, 02:57 PM

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My 2nd unit of T-amp (with Vishay MKT1822 2.2uF 100V and Panasonic FM 470uF 25V caps) + JP’s Alpha 50K volume pot + computer-notebook-style 12V DC 2.5A SMPS are currently with a very close friend in his office. He uses it over his Cyrus 1 amp driving a pair of Celestion 3 and loves the T-amp instantly. His words: “Sound from your tiny amp is excellent. It’s fast and transparent. My Cyrus 1 sounds slower and less transparent by comparison.” He, however, acknowledges impact of bass of the T-amp is light to which I recommend a 12V DC 7Ah Hitachi battery as he is a firm believer in battery power.

I shall need to buy another new board from Xtorm to build an unit of T-amp for my friend.

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post Dec 2 2008, 04:20 PM

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Y.C.,
More T-Amp purchase eh? Would there be another bulk? biggrin.gif
I have two spare/unused T-Amp boards.. PM me if interested wink.gif

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post Dec 2 2008, 07:04 PM

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Jazzy, many thanks for offer.
The last round, Lai and I wanted 3 pcs of T-amp boards but Xtorm only has 2 pcs to supply so there is a backorder of 1 pc still unfulfilled. If we need more, we would revert to you accordingly. Thanks again. smile.gif

QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Dec 2 2008, 04:20 PM)
Y.C.,
More T-Amp purchase eh? Would there be another bulk? biggrin.gif
I have two spare/unused T-Amp boards.. PM me if interested wink.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 07:31 PM

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I have one unused&virgin t-amp board from xtorm to let go too. wink.gif PM if you are interested. smile.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 08:05 PM

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No problemo Y.C.
Anytime.. BTW, I still owe you some monies.. laugh.gif
QUOTE(Y.C. @ Dec 2 2008, 07:04 PM)
Jazzy, many thanks for offer.
The last round, Lai and I wanted 3 pcs of T-amp boards but Xtorm only has 2 pcs to supply so there is a backorder of 1 pc still unfulfilled. If we need more, we would revert to you accordingly. Thanks again.  smile.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 08:14 PM

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I was at my old folks’ place during the last weekend. I have a Denon DCD-690 cdp, Denon PM-360 integrated amp driving a pair of 86dB Celestion 7 (sealed boxes) there. After so many years of hardly playing them, I found the sound to be slightly out after their set-up. I’m contemplating selling everything away and build a T-amp (and just make use of a Sharp DVD player) to drive a smaller pair of entry level mini monitors to obtain neater looks, good sound and get back some money in return. If the plan is on with no objection from my old folks, I’ll PM you guys.

Jazzy, that is small issue. When we meet up next time or we actually have the TT t/t session in the Sin City. tongue.gif


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post Dec 2 2008, 08:19 PM

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Whoa.. more plans brewing! laugh.gif
I think your folks will love the T-Amp! wink.gif Should be able to drive that Celestion beautifully..
BTW, I have forgotten how a Celestion sounds like. My first pair of speakers was a Celestion Ditton 100, a bookshelf driven by the 3020. Sweet! biggrin.gif

Ok.. will wait for your cue tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2008, 11:31 PM

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I've just ordered 3pcs from Xtorm last few days smile.gif
Looks like there will be more t-amp owner out there...
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post Dec 2 2008, 11:48 PM

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cyl,
by the quantities bulked by xtorm, there are a number out there! They're forum shy I supposed! tongue.gif

My T-Amp has no more progress. I have also stopped at my current buffer pre-amp which to me complements the T-Amp rather well.. whatever leftovers of sharpness/roughness in the sonics has been smoothened by the buffer pre-amp. Its totally so musical now... wink.gif
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post Dec 3 2008, 01:31 AM

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Here is an interesting documentary at YouTube on Surface Mount Soldering. With the right tools, it does not look that scary to work on including the TA2024 chip.
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post Dec 3 2008, 07:55 AM

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nice video, downloaded it...!
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post Dec 4 2008, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Dec 2 2008, 11:48 PM)
cyl,
by the quantities bulked by xtorm, there are a number out there! They're forum shy I supposed! tongue.gif

My T-Amp has no more progress. I have also stopped at my current buffer pre-amp which to me complements the T-Amp rather well.. whatever leftovers of sharpness/roughness in the sonics has been smoothened by the buffer pre-amp. Its totally so musical now... wink.gif
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due to the simplicity of the amp,there is not much to tweak unless you do something on its peripherals like pre/buffer and a nice casing like yours smile.gif

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