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samsoong
post May 13 2009, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 12 2009, 12:40 PM)
The S330D comes with build in decoder, make it can directly acept SPDIF  signal from cd player, Xbox 360 , PS3 etc, support optical and also coaxial input,  make the speaker ready and more flexible for various input system, providing better decoding for audio.
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hmm.. meaning if i only plan to use my speakers for my comp... s330d isnt quite necessary for me..? as in its just extra connectivity for other stuff that u mentioned?


Added on May 13, 2009, 12:14 am
QUOTE(Proclaimer @ May 12 2009, 12:45 PM)
A better soundcard with analog output is better than the internal decoder with digital output.. Advantage is more connectivity..  smile.gif
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sry again, but what do u mean by analog output?

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post May 13 2009, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ May 12 2009, 03:59 PM)
Err have u ever heard the mako..? Its pretty good.. On par with S730 or better.. But power wise lose to S730 la.. But i might be wrong since i hear them on diff setup.. 1 asus sc and 1 creative sc..
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yeah... its price good too, USD399.99 laugh.gif
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post May 13 2009, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Edifier @ May 10 2009, 09:58 PM)
The back plate hot is due to the IC on the PCB usingn the back plate to release the heat.
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thanks for the explaination ; )

QUOTE(maxwelx64 @ May 12 2009, 12:33 AM)
is that the volume goes around 50%??
the black plate will start hot when volume goes around 50%...
can u ever put ur finger on it without hurt urself?
if juz a moderate temperature, it is normal....smile.gif
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my finger only can hold for maximum 3 seconds until my brain tells me : ITS HOT! biggrin.gif
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post May 14 2009, 08:54 PM

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hey people, sry to ask noob questions again... sweat.gif cause i just found out sri computer has restocked which i might go purchase tomorrow..

1. just to double confirm is it worth more getting the s330d than the s330?

2. i read that new speaker has to like burn in or something? how do i do that?
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post May 14 2009, 08:59 PM

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If you're using the Digital connection then it is worth it smile.gif

Just play your song collection frequently if you're not in a rush, otherwise, try burning in with white/pink noise.
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post May 14 2009, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(UNDERGROUND @ May 14 2009, 08:59 PM)
If you're using the Digital connection then it is worth it smile.gif

Just play your song collection frequently if you're not in a rush, otherwise, try burning in with white/pink noise.
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i still dont understand about this digital connection thing.. example?
same goes for white/pink noise meaning?
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post May 15 2009, 01:22 AM

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i am using the edifier s2.1d ... long time never look into comp speaker..now hand itchy..which model do u guys recommend tat have better quality than s2.1d?
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post May 15 2009, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(samsoong @ May 14 2009, 09:32 PM)
i still dont understand about this digital connection thing.. example?
same goes for white/pink noise meaning?
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White noise is the randomly generated noise signal. The signal has equal power in all frequency. Some people suggested that it is good to use white noise for burn-in, because of its fair distribution of each sound frequency, from treble to bass. Aside from headphone burn-in, some people use it to help baby sleep easier.
it sounds like '' sha sha sha'' ".

I give u a link to get more these audio frequency file for burn in .
click me


Added on May 15, 2009, 3:49 am
QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ May 15 2009, 01:22 AM)
i am using the edifier s2.1d ... long time never look into comp speaker..now hand itchy..which model do u guys recommend tat have better quality than s2.1d?
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Mayb u can try the S530D , which has more muscle power compare to OLD S2.1D . There is another cheaper model called S330 is which is actually to replace the S2.1D , i found that S330 has better performance in high frequency compare to the old S2.1D , although the S2.1D has a more bommy woofer.

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thanks...s530d do look tempting..
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post May 15 2009, 03:12 PM

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just purchased the s330 smile.gif its a beauty...!
btw,just wondering.. how long do i need for my speakers to burn in using white noise?
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post May 15 2009, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(samsoong @ May 15 2009, 03:12 PM)
just purchased the s330 smile.gif its a beauty...!
btw,just wondering.. how long do i need for my speakers to burn in using white noise?
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there is not a specific amount of time u need to burn in, i usually use pink noinse and burn in with the following procedure (i start early morning,):

1. Burn in Noise - Very soft for 1st 2hours (2hr)
2. 2nd-3rd hour i'll play various genre of song at that burn in volume at (1) (1hour total)
3. Rest 1 hour (1hour total)
^ Repeat 1 more time (total 4hour x 2 = 8 hour) ^ then

day2
1b. Burn in Noise - Soft for 2 hours (2hr total)
2b. 2nd-3rd hour play various genre at burn in volume at (1b) (1hr total)
3b. Rest 1 hour(1hr total)
^ Repeat 2 more time (total 4hour x 3 = 12 hour) ^ then

day3
1c. Burn in Noise - Normal listening volume (just nice) 3 hours full (3hr ttl)
2c. Play music at slightly lower than normal volume for 1 hour (1hr ttl)
3c. Rest for 1hr, then repeat 2c at normal volume. (2hr ttl)
(no more repeats.) ( total 6 hour)

total process 26 hours including rest time, total playing hours: 20 hours (u can play songs anytime after the procedures, making the playing time longer, but make sure its at soft volume)

After that process, u should be enjoying nice music from low volume to normal volume. However, since your speaker is new, the speaker suspension, magnet, magnet coli, and electronices are all new, it is recommended that you do not blast your speaker the first 3st weeks. Even if u try to on loud, u will find the speaker struggling to keep its tone, or the bass might be "crunchy" (feels like the woofer reach its maximum and bang it's housing)


After step 3c above, you shoud increase the volume day by day(little by little), everytime your play your songs.

For example:

Day 1
Play at NORMAL volume for 1 hour
Play at LOUDER THAN NORMAL for 1 hour
Back to normal for 1 hour
(repeat if u playing again throughout the day)

Next day 2

Play at Normal for 1 hour
Play slightly louder than Yesterday's "louder than normal: for 1 hour
back to yesterday's louder than normal.
(repeat if u playing again throughout the day)

Day 3

Normal
louder than yesterday step 2 volume
back to yesterday step 2 volume
(repeat if u playing again throughout the day)

and so on. You will find that in the long run you can on your speakers at ANY volume without losing it's tone (sound become too sharp or too thin, bass too heavy etc etc) i find that using this method on all my speakers and headphones makes the vocal very realistic and treble very "lively" while keeping the tone of the bass the same at all volumes and good stereo-spacing across all volumes.

this just my method and its what i have been doing, dont flame me if u dont believe in it ;p peace icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 16 2009, 12:14 AM

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wow, so much time required.... aite andrew.. thx a lot... will try to follow as detail as u did.. tongue.gif but will also focus on white / pink noise

by the way, does anyone have white or pink noise for my to download to replay.. cause the one xk2 gave has to be clicked.. or maybe i dont know how to download..
xk2 mine explaining a lil?
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post May 16 2009, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(samsoong @ May 16 2009, 12:14 AM)
wow, so much time required.... aite andrew.. thx a lot... will try to follow as detail as u did.. tongue.gif but will also focus on white / pink noise

by the way, does anyone have white or pink noise for my to download to replay.. cause the one xk2 gave has to be clicked.. or maybe i dont know how to download..
xk2 mine explaining a lil?
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It's just like having a new car, u need to break-in normally for the 1st 1000km, drive it slow, use thicker oil so that the piston rings can settle down and all the moving parts can mesh together and...get used to moving? ahaha. same concept here...its a very controversial issue, some people belive in it and some people dont. But your speaker is a great speaker, without burn in properly it will sound nice, with burn in, nicer ; ) acutally once u did the burn in part for the first 20 hour, u can use it like normal already, just dont blast it for the 1st two weeks you use it and it shall be ok...

the link below is edifier speaker tool, dont know wether xk2 gave u this link or not, but this software is form edifier itself. u can control the burn in time with this software ranging from 1 to 6 hours, and also the intensity of the signal..but leave the intensity at default is best (-6dB signal)

http://www.edifier.com/scn2005/support/too...ls.v1.01.en.zip

dont play with the generator tool especially the square wave and triangle wave, i did some research through google and it is say that those type of waves can cause internal wear and tear to the speaker.


also, for everyones knowledge, other stuffs like room temperature, lighting and noise will affect listening experience (based on my experince and observations)

-the quieter the room is, the better (imagine cinema air cond blowing got woosh woosh sound or vibrating sound when u watching movie and u can feel the wind of the air cond, potong steam ryte)
-the dimmer your lights are, the better too (imagine cinema use white fluorocent light when u watch movie or they on the yellow lights, also tak betul ryte) when listen music i like to use dim yellow lights for calm songs.romantic. haha == trance songs off lights la xD
-room temperature around 18-21C is best for music and 16C is best for movies (imagine cinema is hot when u watch movie... == 16C will make you concentrate on the screen and sound more, [and also feel like going to toilet] haha but i find 16C too cold for music with no visual)

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post May 16 2009, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(samsoong @ May 16 2009, 12:14 AM)
wow, so much time required.... aite andrew.. thx a lot... will try to follow as detail as u did.. tongue.gif but will also focus on white / pink noise

by the way, does anyone have white or pink noise for my to download to replay.. cause the one xk2 gave has to be clicked.. or maybe i dont know how to download..
xk2 mine explaining a lil?
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pink noise
white noise
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post May 16 2009, 12:42 AM

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use pink noise bttr..
cuz its not that harsh sounding noise
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post May 16 2009, 12:49 AM

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Just burn in with random songs you have.. White noise or pink noise is gonna be annoying.. Plus there is no scientific proof that burn in with noise is better than songs...

One thing i notice about my S330 is that it cant handle very high frequency sometimes.. Got abit distortion... hmm.gif

Same goes for my old S2.1M..

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post May 16 2009, 12:54 AM

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Edifier S530D for sale:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=951427&hl=

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post May 16 2009, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(Proclaimer @ May 16 2009, 12:49 AM)
Just burn in with random songs you have.. White noise or pink noise is gonna be annoying.. Plus there is no scientific proof that burn in with noise is better than songs...

One thing i notice about my S330 is that it cant handle very high frequency sometimes.. Got abit distortion...  hmm.gif

Same goes for my old S2.1M..
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edifier speaker tools use pink noise with opposite phrase, so when burn in u face the 2 speakers directly face to face, phrase cancellation will occur and there will be no noise/very little noise. the reason why i think noise is better is because noise got very wide and constant spectral/stereo imaging and frequency range, so that every frequency will be balanced out which will enhance the "surround" feeling of the speaker, making it provide a very "full" sound. i THINK that is the logic of using noise to burn in. Also, many high end speaker company pre-burn in their speakers before sending them out, so, i just follow them only la xD

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post May 16 2009, 01:05 AM

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but for the first hours or what pls dont use noise..
jus use random song
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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ May 16 2009, 12:58 AM)
edifier speaker tools use pink noise with opposite phrase, so when burn in u face the 2 speakers directly face to face, phrase cancellation will occur and there will be no noise/very little noise. the reason why i think noise is better is because noise got very wide and constant spectral/stereo imaging and frequency range, so that every frequency will be balanced out which will enhance the "surround" feeling of the speaker, making it provide a very "full" sound. i THINK that is the logic of using noise to burn in. Also, many high end speaker company pre-burn in their speakers before sending them out, so, i just follow them only la xD
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Yeah they have a wide frequency.. But when you are in front of the com u also use white/pink noise..? sweat.gif U can stand it eh.. laugh.gif

I guess playing diff music genre also have the same effects as noise does..

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