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 SVS subwoofer, How many users here? Just courious

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post Aug 17 2009, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Aug 17 2009, 01:07 AM)
I think to be fair, running biz is to earn money too. So, if you don't like the price, then drive to Sg and get a unit directly there and try your luck to bypass the ketam. If I'm getting the PC unit, just put it in the trunk and throw away the box. Pretend it is like ah beng very geng sub for car pre-install in Malaysia. My brother is in Sg so might get his help to get a unit for PC-13Plus. Looking to dual sub with my DD-12. May ask him to ship from Singapore written down as used unit and lower price invoice. Too lazy to drive all the way to Singapore -- Penang.

If you check the Singapore pricing compare to US direct ship to Malaysia without the tax, it cost almost the same so if you manage to to bypass ketam, you would save around RM 1800 in tax (-RM 300 for petrol and toll + 1 day lost). Time to propose to your HM your next holiday trip is driving to Singapore (- the kid) to make space for the sub  thumbup.gif

Another route I might take is get a subwoofer kit for F15 and get a local carpenter to make the box for me. This would be the cheapest way to get my second sub.

Put it in this way, if you don't like the price, you can pick other brand. It's not that SVS is the only good sub.
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bro pierreye... can tumpang purchase?? (serious here..) are u talking about KEC?
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post Aug 17 2009, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Aug 17 2009, 10:04 AM)
try tell that to Woo Kee Hong or B&W speakers dealer here in M'sia....

I would get the 4310 & B&W CM9 if their price are same like UK price....sweat.gif
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bro i come in peace.. but svs is not supposed to be b&w .. they r supposed to be budget subwoofers i like svs becoz of their service n great price to performance ratio... they r successful bcoz of that too..

i think thre is nothing much htkaki can do to reduce the price .. i do think pb12nsd rm4k shippsed to northen region is fair.. it is not cheap.. just fair as we have to pay that price anyway if we buy door to door.. i used UK price just as an example as velodyne cht12q n pb12nsd are alomost the same price.. but when it comes to malaysia suddenly pb12nsd is rm1k more expensive.. velodyne pays bills too, rental ,salary.. wait a minute.. do they pay tax? hmm.gif

lighting .. sea freight u need volume.. if u send 10 subs through sea it will be loose cargo.. transport cost it might not be cheaper .. the only diff is sea freight u can adjust ALOT on the tax .. if u order whole container then u might save on transport cost.. but htkaki is a dealer.. not a distributor.. if order 1 container mati la..

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post Aug 17 2009, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Aug 17 2009, 04:28 PM)
bro i come in peace..
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...and u go in pieces? laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(mys_terious @ Aug 17 2009, 04:28 PM)
bro i come in peace.. but svs is not supposed to be b&w .. they r supposed to be budget subwoofers i like svs becoz of their service n great price to performance ratio... they r successful bcoz of that too..

i think thre is nothing much htkaki can do to reduce the price .. i do think pb12nsd rm4k shippsed to northen region is fair.. it is not cheap.. just fair as we have to pay that price anyway if we buy door to door..  i used UK price just as an example as velodyne cht12q n pb12nsd are alomost the same price.. but when it comes to malaysia suddenly pb12nsd is rm1k more expensive.. velodyne pays bills too, rental ,salary.. wait a minute..  do they pay tax?  hmm.gif 

lighting  .. sea freight u need volume.. if u send 10 subs through sea it will be loose cargo.. transport cost it might not be cheaper .. the only diff is sea freight u can adjust ALOT on the tax .. if u order whole container then u might save on transport cost.. but htkaki is a dealer.. not a distributor.. if order 1 container mati la..
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I fully understand that. What htkaki did is good thing. He is trying to help us all get svs sub....but now the price seems to go higher. And we lose the privilege to order direct from SVS. Imagine if I were to buy a PC12+ now and it would cost Rm5800 plus shipping to Miri, Sarawak which could be another few hundred Rm more. That means a PC12+ is easily Rm6500 which if we order direct would only cost us RM4800. Now I hope all of you can understand why I am complaining about.

I am really sorry for htkaki because it not his fault. I am just not happy because if I have to buy another PC12+ now, it just cost so much more.
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post Aug 17 2009, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Aug 17 2009, 04:41 PM)
I fully understand that.  What htkaki did is good thing.  He is trying to help us all get svs sub....but now the price seems to go higher.  And we lose the privilege to order direct from SVS.  Imagine if I were to buy a PC12+ now and it would cost Rm5800 plus shipping to Miri, Sarawak which could be another few hundred Rm more.  That means a PC12+ is easily Rm6500 which if we order direct would only cost us RM4800.  Now I hope all of you can understand why I am complaining about.

I am really sorry for htkaki because it not his fault.  I am just not happy because if I have to buy another PC12+ now, it just cost so much more.
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Just ask them to sent to Brunei....I think KEC distributorship does not covers there....and no need to pay tax somemore....
Actually, you can do this to help our "poor" forumers here, and make a few bucks as well by shipping it to KL.... unsure.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Aug 17 2009, 04:41 PM)
I am really sorry for htkaki because it not his fault.  I am just not happy because if I have to buy another PC12+ now, it just cost so much more.
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Things happened bro. Today is 1.80 per litre and tomorrow is 2.10 per litre. You have to get it since you have no choice. Same case here. Since you no longer can buy directly you have to buy at more expensive price if you want one. No need to fret about it. Its just the way things are smile.gif

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post Aug 17 2009, 04:58 PM

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post Aug 17 2009, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Aug 17 2009, 04:41 PM)
I fully understand that.  What htkaki did is good thing.  He is trying to help us all get svs sub....but now the price seems to go higher.  And we lose the privilege to order direct from SVS.  Imagine if I were to buy a PC12+ now and it would cost Rm5800 plus shipping to Miri, Sarawak which could be another few hundred Rm more.  That means a PC12+ is easily Rm6500 which if we order direct would only cost us RM4800.  Now I hope all of you can understand why I am complaining about.

I am really sorry for htkaki because it not his fault.  I am just not happy because if I have to buy another PC12+ now, it just cost so much more.
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I agree with lightning. A 'value for money' performance sub is no longer value for money when it reaches our shores. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(mpyw @ Aug 17 2009, 04:46 PM)
Just ask them to sent to Brunei....I think KEC distributorship does not covers there....and no need to pay tax somemore....
Actually, you can do this to help our "poor" forumers here, and make a few bucks as well by shipping it to KL.... unsure.gif
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Our bro got it fr Brunei, only RM3.8k for PC-12 plus nia laugh.gif
Compared to RM5.8k, it's huge difference.
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post Aug 17 2009, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Aug 17 2009, 05:17 PM)
Our bro got it fr Brunei, only RM3.8k for PC-12 plus nia  laugh.gif
Compared to RM5.8k, it's huge difference.
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That 3.8k price is super special since SVS gave further discounts due to the circumstances that happened. I believe that it didn't kena tax also. Even lightning69 said before that cannot use that price as a benchmark.
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post Aug 17 2009, 05:25 PM

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At least 4.8k is good benchmark. tongue.gif


Added on August 17, 2009, 5:29 pmSomething retailed for USD1k is sold for 5+k here is big gap and it's a bit hard to digest.

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post Aug 17 2009, 05:30 PM

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Actually the benchmark should be 5.1-5.2k and even this presumes you pick it up from the airport and do the customs clearance yourself.


Added on August 17, 2009, 5:32 pm
QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Aug 17 2009, 05:25 PM)
Something retailed for USD1k is sold for 5+k here is big gap and it's a bit hard to digest.
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Yup, the shipping and taxes add quite a lot. Those US fellas don't know how good they have it over there...

Earlier I also did consider the Hsu VTF-3 Mk 3. US price $699. They quoted all in door-to-door to MY (incl shipping, tax, customs clearance) was almost $1362 or about RM4,835!! Like that the multiplier is about 6.9x (4835/699).

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post Aug 17 2009, 05:40 PM

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It might be lower as the customs tax part is subject to 'negotiation' and luck.
Getting 2 units could be cheaper marginally and returning customers get discounts.
Peasant is bit 'kiam siap' tongue.gif

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post Aug 17 2009, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Aug 17 2009, 08:20 AM)
If you are running a business, you would know, but if you are an engineer...good luck tongue.gif
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mad.gif engineer also can understand wot..


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At least 4.8k is good benchmark.
You become my supplier, ok ah? I buy 20 units from you tongue.gif

Updated price based on the constructive feedbacks and a cheap local transporter who can let me tumpang some space in his lorry.

SB12-Plus (Black) : RM3,750
SB12-Plus (Oak & Rosenut) : RM4,150

PB/PC12-NSD : RM3,600
PB12-Plus : RM6,430
PC12-Plus : RM5,450
PB13-Ultra : RM8,535
PC13-Ultra : RM7,699

For those Peninsula folks, if you buy any 2 units under one single order to one shipping address, all shipping cost on me. mys_terious, you may let your friend to know about it.

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Taukeh don't say like this.
4.8k is the sweet spot... We are just hoping tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Aug 17 2009, 07:10 PM)
Taukeh don't say like this.
4.8k is the sweet spot... We are just hoping tongue.gif
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Maybe I should stop selling it. Seriously. Someone to take over and sell it at RM4.8K?

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post Aug 17 2009, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 17 2009, 07:14 PM)
Maybe I should stop selling it. Seriously. Someone to tak over and sell it at RM4.8K?
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do business cannot liddat say.... still need to do..

instead of getting 100% of the malaysia business if you meet target, then just settle for 5%-10% of the cake, i.e. those people who are willing to accept your pricing. I'm sure that's more than enuf for the time being.. laugh.gif

like those Denon, B&W so high price compared to UK sale price, still also can sell wot..
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 17 2009, 07:14 PM)
Maybe I should stop selling it. Seriously. Someone to take over and sell it at RM4.8K?
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At all means, we cant get it now since SVS isn't shipping to our shores.
Taukeh, don't give up. We need good products from you thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 17 2009, 07:17 PM)
do business cannot liddat say.... still need to do..

instead of getting 100% of the malaysia business if you meet target, then just settle for 5%-10% of the cake, i.e. those people who are willing to accept your pricing.  I'm sure that's more than enuf for the time being..  laugh.gif

like those Denon, B&W so high price compared to UK sale price, still also  can sell wot..
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Boss, frustrating when you try to do something yet kena left and right lah doh.gif

Kiamsiap fella blush.gif , you may come to my shop to collect (cash and carry). Deduct RM200 for you all (can go and buy subwoofer cable). Btw, don't claim any medical fee from me if you strain your back or whatever when lifting or unpacking it tongue.gif
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Bro Leg, good thing no cheap cheap thing no good. Joking nia.

Willing seller willing buyer. That's my policy.

I am a most kiamsiap fella but if I buy already then I will not fret over it. Deal is deal. Don't worry, you have my support.

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