NO, super cheap is when you tell yourself, my systems sounds good enuf.. end of story..    

i like your thinking...

NO, super cheap is when you tell yourself, my systems sounds good enuf.. end of story..   

my waterfall chart and its not pretty...
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I'm still new at reading waterfall charts. So when you say its not pretty, what do you see?

Me too, newbie on this. So, we should be looking at uniform gentle hills?

Everyone faces budget constrain.  I can afford a few PB13+ and even EQ but i just don't want to spend those kind of money.  (Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to show of that I am rich or something....Rm30k is nowhere near rich hahaha)

However, I think we can always get better sound if we keep spending.  But the the law of diminishing returns kind of falls flat pretty fast.  The other thing for me is do I really need those reference quality sound(off course I do!) but the real issue is can I really tell the difference?  What is more important is not to do a side by side comparison to highlight and difference but rather sit back and really enjoy the movies.  The biggest mistake a  lot of people make is they pay to much attention to the hardware and forget to enjoy the entertainment that those hardware are suppose to bring.

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Added on September 28, 2009, 12:41 pm

I do agree that sub position do affect the sound.  I have my HT in my living room and there is only one place I can put my sub that is at the corner.  I could put it somewhere else but that would looks odd for my living room.  So at the end of the day i have to decide whether I want to reposition my sub to get better sound with better looking curves(which I can't even see) and end up with a sub that ends up in a odd position in the living room?

In the end, i won't really care about how flat my sub curves would look like(maybe I am just not that hardcore) because I won't really know if my sub is missing a few db at 50hz or so.  What i do know is that i am getting the low frequency that puts a smile on my face.  Its just me.

Yes, the kamikaze dip is at abt 40Hz right after the 'zero' take-off. Take a look back at my graph, aint that about similar? Room nodes unless yours is acoustically treated and correctly done.

svs thread must use svs links http://www.svsound.com/questions-faqs-waterfall.cfm .... i didnt finish reading though coz half through nia it reminds me that i am a lowtech chinaman with a not so high iq .. tak faham apa dia cakap

you're down to earth... and ditto.. you hit the right spot! 

While we try to make a mini earthquake at Crystal Crown Hotel on this Sat, there will be a mini earthquake in Ipoh too. Abt the same time, I guess .

A poison for you guys; PC-13Ultra

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/node/7150

"It shook my home like no other woofer I have ever experienced; deep, tight, melodic and controlled.

If you are lucky enough to get a demo of one of these, you’ll live off potato soup for a year, or even sell your spouse, to be able to get one.
It’s the single most glorious and potent sub bass system it has ever been my privilege to play with."

That is quite a sub huh.  1000Pound Sterling = RM5594 (base on latest Maybank Exchange rate)

So what is the price in Malaysia?  Please PM me Htkaki.  Also includes the price of all the SVS speakers too.  Thanks.

"It shook my home like no other woofer I have ever experienced; deep, tight, melodic and controlled.

If you are lucky enough to get a demo of one of these, you’ll live off potato soup for a year, or even sell your spouse, to be able to get one.
It’s the single most glorious and potent sub bass system it has ever been my privilege to play with."

That is quite a sub huh.  1000Pound Sterling = RM5594 (base on latest Maybank Exchange rate)

So what is the price in Malaysia?  Please PM me Htkaki.  Also includes the price of all the SVS speakers too.  Thanks.

"It shook my home like no other woofer I have ever experienced; deep, tight, melodic and controlled.

If you are lucky enough to get a demo of one of these, you’ll live off potato soup for a year, or even sell your spouse, to be able to get one.
It’s the single most glorious and potent sub bass system it has ever been my privilege to play with."

That is quite a sub huh.  1000Pound Sterling = RM5594 (base on latest Maybank Exchange rate)

So what is the price in Malaysia?  Please PM me Htkaki.  Also includes the price of all the SVS speakers too.  Thanks.

mountain range.. instead of gentle hills.. 

Also for certain frequencies the drop even at 700ms is low. These frequencies tend to stay in the room and muddle up the sound of other frequencies.

taqies, I was under the impression that Audyssey corrected in the time domain. Not sure if these readings are post Audyssey.

The best would be a quick drop and if possible drop by more than significant amount within 300ms, this way they disappear fast enuf before the next scene comes up and not muddling up anything else. Low frequencies will stay in the room longer, there is nothing u can do abt that, all u can hope for is that it drops fast enuf not to mess up other frequencies.

REW is a very good tool to examine and understand your problems. Subs can be made better or worse by moving even by 1ft, they are critical to get right. If u cannot, a tool like Audyssey can do it well.

I see a lot of comments that says the results after Audyssey were not good, did not sound right. I'll tell u why, without room correction, you were probably "feeling, hearing" bass that was not meant to be heard, reverberations caused by slow decay, and some "peaks" that made u feel the oomph. Room corrections tries to fix this and its not all bad.
However, its ur equipment, if u r not interested in accuracy, then by all means do what is best for u!