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 Turtles, Terrapins and Tortoises V4, Armored reptiles please enter here :p

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post May 16 2009, 03:56 PM

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common opuntias don't have any specific horticultural value, so don't expect any nursery to specially cater for them. it's just available here and there, have to ask around nurseries for them. anywhere in sg buloh or pusat flora cheras is a good bet.

most important is watch out for pesticide/fungicide residues, and never feed your tortoises with plants bought straight from nurseries.

a better idea is to search around housing areas for owners that had planted super big specimens and buy some pads. those pads will easily develop into new plants, as opuntias are succulents.
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post May 16 2009, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ May 16 2009, 03:56 PM)
common opuntias don't have any specific horticultural value, so don't expect any nursery to specially cater for them. it's just available here and there, have to ask around nurseries for them. anywhere in sg buloh or pusat flora cheras is a good bet.

most important is watch out for pesticide/fungicide residues, and never feed your tortoises with plants bought straight from nurseries.

a better idea is to search around housing areas for owners that had planted super big specimens and buy some pads. those pads will easily develop into new plants, as opuntias are succulents.
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post May 17 2009, 03:19 AM

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It would take ages for them to multiply in quantity laugh.gif

Maybe i need to increase my Opuntia project scale and that means more money sweat.gif
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post May 17 2009, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ May 17 2009, 03:19 AM)
It would take ages for them to multiply in quantity laugh.gif

Maybe i need to increase my Opuntia project scale and that means more money sweat.gif
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ha3..u must open special nursery for opuntia.. drool.gif
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post May 17 2009, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(uzairi @ May 17 2009, 03:19 AM)
It would take ages for them to multiply in quantity laugh.gif

Maybe i need to increase my Opuntia project scale and that means more money sweat.gif
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succulent propogation as say... pad cuttings would grow new buds faster than any established nursery plant. 1-3 new buds per cutting is guaranteed within weeks, as opposed to the more laxed growth of established plant (might only grow a single bud after many months). a single 3-4 interconnected pads would therefore be as good, if not better, than any rm10-15 nursery plant.

unless you're in a hurry to get them for feeds and not plant them (in which we gotta solely depend on the stocks coming from nurseries), cuttings is the fastest way to multiply succulents like opuntia. smaller/shorter plant, yes, but more pads.

p/s: opuntia ficus-indica can't make money ler, unless you're going to go big scale for the pear. or pad afactory for tortoise owners.

during LAMAN 2008, the only opuntia i saw during the whole show was some tiny weeny O. brasiliensis amongst other ornamental small cactus. which says much about the low value of the genus amongst horticultural enthusiasts.

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QUOTE(camillenoir @ May 17 2009, 12:24 PM)
succulent propogation as say... pad cuttings would grow new buds faster than any established nursery plant. 1-3 new buds per cutting is guaranteed within weeks, as opposed to the more laxed growth of established plant (might only grow a single bud after many months). a single 3-4 interconnected pads would therefore be as good, if not better, than any rm10-15 nursery plant.

unless you're in a hurry to get them for feeds and not plant them (in which we gotta solely depend on the stocks coming from nurseries), cuttings is the fastest way to multiply succulents like opuntia. smaller/shorter plant, yes, but more pads.

p/s: opuntia ficus-indica can't make money ler, unless you're going to go big scale for the pear. or pad afactory for tortoise owners. 

during LAMAN 2008, the only opuntia i saw during the whole show was some tiny weeny O. brasiliensis amongst other ornamental small cactus. which says much about the low value of the genus amongst horticultural enthusiasts.
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this is why i really excited when senior member come and post.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif but i saw some chinese cook those opuntia and make goreng sayur kaktus,LOL.. laugh.gif
i must find and plant it rite now..but sometimes i worry because lack of knowledge about that species..im afraid if i take wrong species of cacti,it can kill and poison my children,ho3. sweat.gif
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post May 17 2009, 11:55 PM

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hai guys, i have a star tortoise here.
it has been a week she didnt go poo poo but only peepee, is there any major matter that i need to concern?
i hope experts here can help out as i dont know what to do now.

i was wondering if they also can get 'tersumbat'?
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post May 18 2009, 12:04 PM

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what color is the pee?

seems like a constipated star - could and would turn major (e.g bladder stone). most usual cause is not enough hydration (lack of drinking water or fed too much dry food). could also be accidental ingestion of foreign stuff.

for problems like that immediate treatment is soak in warm water. you could try enema if you're really game for it, just do it very very gently under the tap.

if nothing works, bring to vet.
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post May 18 2009, 01:56 PM

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the colour is white adn watery, but no black color casting come out.
ok, i will try to soak in warm water now and enema later.


Added on May 18, 2009, 2:10 pmblack casting was seldom come out, adn sometimes green casting. sorry for the previous facts.

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do not know if this is the right place to look for anyone willing to give away baby star tortoise. if so please pm me. i live in subang jaya
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QUOTE(slackerz @ May 17 2009, 08:57 AM)
ha3..u must open special nursery for opuntia.. drool.gif
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no place la bro sweat.gif

QUOTE(camillenoir @ May 17 2009, 12:24 PM)
succulent propogation as say... pad cuttings would grow new buds faster than any established nursery plant. 1-3 new buds per cutting is guaranteed within weeks, as opposed to the more laxed growth of established plant (might only grow a single bud after many months). a single 3-4 interconnected pads would therefore be as good, if not better, than any rm10-15 nursery plant.

unless you're in a hurry to get them for feeds and not plant them (in which we gotta solely depend on the stocks coming from nurseries), cuttings is the fastest way to multiply succulents like opuntia. smaller/shorter plant, yes, but more pads.

p/s: opuntia ficus-indica can't make money ler, unless you're going to go big scale for the pear. or pad afactory for tortoise owners. 

during LAMAN 2008, the only opuntia i saw during the whole show was some tiny weeny O. brasiliensis amongst other ornamental small cactus. which says much about the low value of the genus amongst horticultural enthusiasts.
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yet to cut them since im way across the sea far away from home sad.gif

QUOTE(max-oasism @ May 17 2009, 11:55 PM)
hai guys, i have a star tortoise here.
it has been a week she didnt go poo poo but only peepee, is there any major matter that i need to concern?
i hope experts here can help out as i dont know what to do now.

i was wondering if they also can get 'tersumbat'?
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you can just follow what bro camillenoir advised you to do so.
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post May 18 2009, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(max-oasism @ May 17 2009, 11:55 PM)
hai guys, i have a star tortoise here.
it has been a week she didnt go poo poo but only peepee, is there any major matter that i need to concern?
i hope experts here can help out as i dont know what to do now.

i was wondering if they also can get 'tersumbat'?
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yeah,follow what bro camillenoir said..seems like bladder stone..
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post May 18 2009, 07:05 PM

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ya, i did already and still doing, now. thanks. ^^
but there is one poo, but green color.


Added on May 18, 2009, 7:15 pm
QUOTE(camillenoir @ May 18 2009, 01:04 PM)
what color is the pee?

seems like a constipated star - could and would turn major (e.g bladder stone). most usual cause is not enough hydration (lack of drinking water or fed too much dry food). could also be accidental ingestion of foreign stuff.

for problems like that immediate treatment is soak in warm water. you could try enema if you're really game for it, just do it very very gently under the tap.

if nothing works, bring to vet.
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in the tank, the bedding was filled with layers of newspapers and one water bowl.
every morning, i take it to get some sun light for about five minutes then bring it inside and feed it with vege.

every weak, the bedding changed and water in the bowl was changed every two to three days.

i think i followed the steps and ya i i do sometimes give it supplement of calcium and vit D3.

i think its dehydration, cause it does not want to drink the water when it felt its dirty.

will update more. ^^

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post May 18 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(max-oasism @ May 18 2009, 07:05 PM)
ya, i did already and still doing, now. thanks. ^^
but there is one poo, but green color.


Added on May 18, 2009, 7:15 pm

in the tank, the bedding was filled with layers of newspapers and one water bowl.
every morning, i take it to get some sun light for about five minutes then bring it inside and feed it with vege.

every weak, the bedding changed and water in the bowl was changed every two to three days.

i think i followed the steps and ya i i do sometimes give it supplement of calcium and vit D3.

i think its dehydration, cause it does not want to drink the water when it felt its dirty.

will update more. ^^
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yeah...i encounter the same health problem with my tortoise before...the gallbladder developed and need to be removed..now he's ok already smile.gif
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 25 2009, 10:36 PM)
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How frequently do you have to change the water? I have two baby RESes in a small tank (without filter) and I find that it turns green after 1 day, and smelly after 1.5 days.
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When i saw last post by wkkay i tot there are flame war happening here
Din know u also keep RES tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ May 19 2009, 06:28 AM)
How frequently do you have to change the water? I have two baby RESes in a small tank (without filter) and I find that it turns green after 1 day, and smelly after 1.5 days.
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i'd pass the turtle:tank size ratio and feeding quantity/frequency argument and go straight for the fact that RES are the messiest of the lot.

without filter, daily water change is imminent.

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ryo, false alarm eh? laugh.gif
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New pet. The missus thinks that it's a good way to nurture my paternal instincts doh.gif

I guess I'll get a tank+filter then. Changing the water's becoming a chore and it'd be good to reduce it.
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QUOTE(max-oasism @ May 18 2009, 07:05 PM)
ya, i did already and still doing, now. thanks. ^^
but there is one poo, but green color.


Added on May 18, 2009, 7:15 pm

in the tank, the bedding was filled with layers of newspapers and one water bowl.
every morning, i take it to get some sun light for about five minutes then bring it inside and feed it with vege.

every weak, the bedding changed and water in the bowl was changed every two to three days.

i think i followed the steps and ya i i do sometimes give it supplement of calcium and vit D3.

i think its dehydration, cause it does not want to drink the water when it felt its dirty.

will update more. ^^
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Make it at least 30 minutes.

QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ May 19 2009, 07:03 AM)
When i saw last post by wkkay i tot there are flame war happening here
Din know u also keep RES tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ May 19 2009, 10:57 PM)
New pet. The missus thinks that it's a good way to nurture my paternal instincts doh.gif

I guess I'll get a tank+filter then. Changing the water's becoming a chore and it'd be good to reduce it.
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Aside from getting a bigger tank and a good filter, try to feed them on every alternate day. That would be the best way to reduce the water smell and reduce the pellet intake. Try to give them some mustard green once a week and some feeding fish as a treat to them.
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Guys, am interested in those turtles that stays underwater? Any species to recommend? I recently saw some small (20 cents in size) turtles, green color, the shell is very soft rubbery like, and they live underwater. Very nice and active creatures and they constantly like to dig themselves into the sand and nudge the head off and on.

Any pet shops to recommend to find good priced turtles here in Klang Valley?

Will

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