I just bought my guitar and I accidently broke my 6th string while trying to drop d the tuning....like its only 3 days old!!

What should I do? Change the whole set? Or just the 6th or waht? Thanks

well, you can just get the 6th string replaced. most of the guitar shops around stock em. u just gotta find out wat gauge your old string was. don't need to change the whole set.

btw, how did you snap a string while downtuning? 1st time i heard of such thing

Lolz! Yeah well I was just turning the string and it sorta just broke! I was doing it slowly summore sobs. My guitar model is the yamahaf310. any advice which guitar shop stores them and how to get it changed? How much do the charged for just one string? Thanks.

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Added on October 1, 2008, 12:02 amAnd does yamaha just do the one string with the same type of string?

This post has been edited by Xannava: Oct 1 2008, 12:02 AM

down tune? or did u tune higher?
anyway, Guitar Collections do sell single string, like shauno said, u just need to know ur gauge and thats all.

Hmm if the sound gets deeper its drop right? Hmm the thing is I dont know my gauge... Just bought the guitar... sigh

well then it should be the standard gauge. so just go to the shop and tell the fellar or show him ur guitar, the old man in guitar collection TTDI can help u out
i tink its less than RM5, as the low E is RM5 for D'adario strings

Do you think its possible for me to go back to yamaha to change just the one string using the same factory issued string? Will it sound different or wierd if the one string is a different brand or anything from the other 5? How much do you think they would charge there?

Sorry for so many questions... new to this. And thanks for the advice.

I broke my high E string (1st string) numerous times but never broke the low E string before. Anyway, just go to any guitar store and buy only the string and u can DIY at home

i'm not sure myself wei. but well, u can go back to yamaha, and the fellar will just help u out. but impossible for u to get the same string la, unless u wanna change a whole set to get all brand new. it'll be fine with just one string changed, as long as the others are still new

Thats why I was so shocked...I always expected the high e to break not the low e....

So no weird sounds or such? Or do I just buy the whole pack and then wait and see which string breaks next?


P/S I have no idea how to DIY a guitar string back on...

This post has been edited by Xannava: Oct 1 2008, 12:45 AM

simple, put string in hole behind the guitar pull to the back put in the hole at the headstock thats for the string, tighten.

theres videos on the net for it im sure. no worries bro breaking strings are damn common

well, if all ur other strings are fine, then it its fine
u may wana let the fellar to change for u for the first time, maybe from where u bought the guitar. then the next try u can DIY

Hmmm... I'm afraid I'll break the string while restringing .... sigh... breaking strings are common.. but on a new guitar and sixth string.. The faster i restring it the less worry I'll get. Haha, I think i'll let the shopkeeper do it the first time round..

Hmm... ok, I'll call the shop tomorrow morning...Hope they are open.. Hari Raya.. of all days..


Thanks people for feedback...especially dead eye for bearing with my inexperience...

It is recommended to change the factory installed set of strings once you get your guitar... you won't know how long the guitar has been on the shelf and how many people has played with it before.. FYI, wound acoustic bronze strings have very short lifespan... they lose their brightness in about a month

Hmmm... mine came from the storeroom. I'm inexperienced with acoustic guitar so to me it still sounds good. However if you have suggestions on which strings would improve it and if its necessary i'll appreciate if you share it with me. Like which brand and which gauge... they give me a headache...

You can give GHS Bright Bronze a try... They are bright enough to last you a couple of months on tone... As for the string gauges, don't differ from the factory ones by a lot, as this will cause intonation problems... You can just ask for regular gauge at the shop...

How much do these cost? Thanks XD

Yeah, i agree that if you bought it without changing the strings, chances are that the strings are pretty old and rusted. I usually swap out new strings the day I buy my guitar. 13-56 or 12-53 are a good gauge to start for a beginner. D'addarios or Dunlops should cost you around Rm20-25 a pack.

You can find tons of vids on youtube on how to change the strings. It's really easy actually. Also, since you're a beginner, it would be wise to invest in a good tuner and a Peg Winder, which would save your already aching hands from more blisters.

It's around 24 bucks a set... not sure about single strings though...

haha.. no prob wei
but it seems like its closed tomorrow, most music store closes on Hari Raya, and probably 2 days
next stop, Music Master

Thinnest string are suppose to be the 1st E ... not 6!! O.O!!
And it Broke when u tune DOWN?? u sure..=.=... may be u turned too fast, next time turn it slower, bit by bit till u get the sound

since ur guitar new, u should just change the 1st string, unless they had kept the guitar long b4 it sold, mine guitar f210 comes with first set original strings NEVER broke, no matter how i tune it (but somewhat careful)

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Added on October 1, 2008, 1:47 amu can get single strings sold out at most of the place.. they even exist in some bookshop(ok, may b there arent good enough), but this depends on wat quality of strings u wanna achieve . just a single string shouldnt cost much. But for safety, change all strings, but make sure you wont broke the E high string again...

This post has been edited by sarcast: Oct 1 2008, 01:47 AM

Well, if you tune it down, it just shows how old and rusty the strings really are.
better change to a good set in case the rest snaps in the middle of performing.

I was going slow.... And yeah it was tuning down.. i mean if the sound gets deeper it tuning down right? And it was the thickest string so the low E not the high E... Sigh.. I was so shocked. Now I'm contemplating whether to change the whole set to a better one or just the 6th string.


Well, they are actually quite shinny... this particular model always out of stock so I assume they take it from the factory and not rotate round the shops...

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Added on October 1, 2008, 2:00 amThey are quite shiney... but maybe they are rusted inside? I was actually on a very tight budget...sigh. Ok, maybe I'll hunt around for them.. Thanks

If its a different brand then maybe I'll just change the whole set... but still not sure... sigh. Thanks

Oh man...looks like i've got to wait till Friday..

This post has been edited by Xannava: Oct 1 2008, 02:00 AM

Remember that guitars do spend long periods in warehouses, cargo ships, planes, etc.. before settling down in a music shop somewhere in the world

Oooo good point. Just got a ten minute lecture about new guitar + broken string from parents... sigh.. at 1am sommore!
Where do you think I should get these new strings and where should I go to restring it in terms of price and workmanship (the person at the shop actually bumped my guitar while tuning it to the piano when I bought it) ... i mean I just broke a 6th string.. I'm not going to restring on my own!

well, u can try ur luck tomorrow. else u can head to any stores that might be open tomorrow

simple la.
just go to any guitar store in shopping complex, sure open.

Too bad I'm not around.... otherwise I would have changed the strings for you FOC.

just change the whole set to some good strings hahah....

but that'd b kinda hard if its a floyd rose

LOL, didnt know F310 has FR on it

Lolz thanks nway ^^

Floyd rose? Whats dat? What would you define as a set of good strings?

FR?

Don't worry about Floyd Rose.....
That's only for Electric Guitar Musicians to worry about.

I've been googling around and I found a few diff set of strings... what are the diff between steel and bronze strings? Coated phospher? Ball End? Stainless Steel? Which are better, and which ones were the factory issued with my yamaha guitar. Thanks

My suggestion is to go for a phosphorbronze coated strings- D'Addario is fine but i personally like Martin strings but they dont have phosphor bronze but the tone is very nice The problem is you need to change it quite often. Look to change once every 3 months but if you are a performer than they change every performance!!. None of the above mentioned this but personally I use the services of a Luthier. Personally a good luthier will improve the sound of the guitar and you will be surprised with the difference of sound above being done by them. You also need to know about truss rods and if you know how to adjust them will help you in maintenance of your guitar

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Added on October 3, 2008, 3:34 amForgot to add this- Dont bother to change one single string as you do not know how long the strings have been on the guitar. You only do it when you break one string while others are new. Change the whole set and once broken change gauge and company but dont buy the hightest gauge and most expensive but let common sense dictate and your ears. Choose a sensible priced ones based on the type , cost of the guitar and most of all have a lovely time playing late at night

This post has been edited by docvg: Oct 3 2008, 03:34 AM

Most of the time, if one guitar string breaks on my guitars, I usually change the whole set. My strings lasts me between 4 to 6 months if I don't play very often, and 3-5 months on my more heavily played guitars. Usually by that period, one string snaps and then voosssh..... complete string change.

Low E breaks... i experienced it before....

I think it's quite common with acoustics...

Oooo. I actually got my guitar restringed today but unfortunately I just read your post. I did get the D'Addario but its just bronze... no phosphor. I think that this one is kinda deep for my liking.... Ooh and yeah I decided to change all the strings so oh well. Maybe I'll try the phosphor bronze next XD once every three months? Wow, thats frequent. Hmm, all the more reason for me to get the phosphor bronze soon! How does gauge work? And is luthier a string brand? Thanks for feedback

Wow, string snaps in 3-5 months Looks like I've got to start forking out money for strings

It is? I was actually shocked when mine broke.. I mean three days after I buy... the thickest string broke!! Lolz! And of all days I chose... 5 minutes before Raya

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Added on October 3, 2008, 11:00 pmOoh maybe when I get into electric guitar I'll pester you for more info on floyd rose
Thanks for feedback


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P.S I've finally gotten my entire string set changed to the D'Addario Bronze gauge 0.01? Err not sure but the figure is something point something and there is a 1 inside. AND I've learned how to restring!! Hurrah!

Thanks for all your feedback guys! I really really appreciate it. And I promise never ever to break my string before a public holiday (where all shops are closed! And not that it will trouble me anymore now i know how to restring )

Btw, does guitar strings need to be broken in?

This post has been edited by Xannava: Oct 3 2008, 11:00 PM

U can try use Elixir coated string, very long live span and wont break that easily.. but it's abit expensive dou, around 40 bucks per set

always change the whole set for me.
the newer gauge always sound brighter than the old one.

really? last time i bought frm mid valley's guitar collection they were 50ish iirc...

uh oh, that's too expensive for me. Does a thicker gauge give a nicer strumming sound?

you dont call it nicer.
you call it different.
the tone would be different.
thicker gauge give u fatter sound usually.

for me it's a matter of preference.

I got the point something 10 gauge and I find the fingerpicking easier but strumming not so nice the sound....I was wondering if it was the gauge, or the brand, or the material....or all three

strumming as in the body of the sound a little thin?
maybe .10 is a little light for you.

brands of course do play a part in it, but not always.

what brand are u using btw?

Err, I think thin would be right. Should I go for the .12 or .13 next? i plan to change in like a few months time... I'm really more into strumming than picking (mostly because my picking is terrible )

I'm using the D'addario 20/80 bronze. But maybe I'll try phosphor next round.

try a diffrent pick...something harder...like dunlop jazz III.
i use that for everything

Err, I use my fingers...

Always use light picks for picking and strumming on the acoustic... they sound the best as you get the scratch and attack from the lighter picks... never use heavy picks

So, you're more to finger picking stuff ?

Could be just me, but for picking stuff, i'll always go for 'rounder' or 'fatter' sound.

well i guess it really boils down to preference and of course the sound from your very own guitar.
u have to experiment around a few times to get the perfect gauge to suit u n your guitar.
but since u prefer strumming, (michelle branch?) i think u would prefer abit heavier gauges.

all depends on playing style, personality and of course the song

Ooo, ok I'll keep that in mind. Thanks XD

Not really into finger picking but some songs do have picking in between the strumming, so I found it really irritating picking with a pick (ironically XD)

Ok, I'll try heavier gauges next. Thanks

i'll fit them in for you. free of charge

Its ok I've learned how to restring a guitar. Thanks

lol... some people...

*pointing at nimr..... *

nevermind.

haha i've been rejected at all her threads.

so i guess i give up.

maybe u shouldnt talk about guitars.
maybe try canon 1000d or something

Swt =.=

just too bad i prefer the nikon dslr's.
tho i do have 1 canon, old school classic AE-1

Lolz, talking bout camera's here? Haha. Nah more into Canon for me.

hah.
nowadays im so lazy to take pics.
even tho i sometimes carry both my cam phones around, SE k800 and nokia n82.

tho i am tempted to get something with a long zoom to take pics of john mcenroe when he comes here next month.

i also havent posted in the photography thread here for i think 2yrs or more already.
yea real lazy.

OI! BACK ON TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u need to change the whole set of the guitar strings, especially new guitars.

my classical...the 4th string i think,broke 3 times in 4 mths...

really?i only chg them when my 4th set of strings were those gold colour ones...dont match the silver ones,and sound different too...yea i know,sounds noob right

It is better to change the whole set instead. You do not want each string sound obviously different.

yeah...but its kinda wasted unless you get the same model of strings right?

Old and new string will sound differently unless those extended models.

oh...i didnt know that... i even thought that it would be best to stock up on the same strings...

Which is better? Martin or D'Addario strings?

Wouldn't say one is better then the other....... Mostly personal preference really.

I went through LOTS of brands before I landed with Jim Dunlop for electrics and Elixirs for my Acoustic.

Elixirs are too expensive for me unfortunately. I've went to one shop and they recommended me martin for its tone, but said that it has a short life. I have a 20/80 D'addario on right now, but I don't like the sound.

Try Jim Dunlop acoustics. I read alot of good things about it. Might give it a try once my current Elixir dies.

Jim Dunlops... how much are they?

Should be around the RM25 price range.

I've yet to play a set of 80/20 bronze which sounds better than Phosphor Bronzes.

Martin Phosphor Bronzes should be pretty good. To extend it's life, just remember to wipe your strings every time after you play them. That way they won't lose their shine, so quickly that is.

and also keep it in the case?

fast fret helps too.

Fast fret not so recommended for acoustic strings.
By day 3 you'll hear masking of the 2 steel strings. Well, it happened once when I used D'addarios so.... I never really used them again.
In fact my fast fret, has been missing for awhile, I just rememebered bout it lol

haha really ah? i duno wor. me using bass and they're really expensive (rm90-120).

so its really important to take care of them. i thought guitar players also used fast fret?

the only problem is, once there's rust and it kena the fast fret, means die alreadi. haha coz then u're spreading it to the next set of strings, and the next.

Hmmmmmmmm......... right now I'm DAMN tempted to hold a "restringing lessons" workshop for people having trouble with restringing.

Maybe some kind soul can let us use their shop? Have a bunch of strings for sale too......

No lah, I meant for acoustic only. Cuz they tend to lose their brilliance fairly early.

I don't play bass, (but have tried!!!) but don't have enough experience to comment.
Fast fret for electrics are fine though.

actually wat is so hard with re-string?
i do all the re-string myself without refer 2anyone, and i don hav
any tuner. (but i took a long time 2 get in tune....the feel of it) haha
restring for my dad classical, to my acoustic and my ukulele.
it not hard leh...last time i don even hav a guitar string winder.
jus learn it la...now got youtube...can refer to it....i bet sure got
people teach 1

This post has been edited by bozerman: Oct 16 2008, 09:15 PM

Actually, I did go to youtube and found one very good tutorial. But all of em were already unstrung... and I was so daunted by the guitar pins... I mean, they looked really well screwed on. Only later i found out it was just pop in and outs... XD

if u hav guitar winder, the is a curve, half circle at the side of it.
u can slip it into the pin and pull it out.
make sure u do slowly, or it will spoil ur bridge n pin.

Err, now my pin comes out like just use fingers to pull, in fact not much strength needed aso. What do I do with a guitar winder apart from that?

This post has been edited by Xannava: Oct 16 2008, 11:13 PM

hope i did misunderstand u.
apart from wat i mention,
a guitar winder is use to wind up string lo,

when u change a new set of string...
it jus more faster than u use finger...tat all.

actually it is quite useless...haha
but sometime, quite come in handy
especially for people like me lazy to turn the machine head.
but in the end, u hav 2 use ur finger 2 to tune up the string also.
damn

This post has been edited by bozerman: Oct 17 2008, 01:31 AM

thats why. kinda pointless actually.

more a marketing gimmick. unless u change for about 20guitars a day. then it will make a difference.

i have it sitting in my case.