Chery MPV

Saw it during my visit to Carre4 Batu Pahat. Exterior looks okay but a bit outdated lar... like Mitsubishi Charriot....

Any thought?

dunno much about it. bout judge from the street we always see. i dont see much of those cars maybe need to find out more info of its cons....

This post has been edited by neuroticmind: Sep 28 2008, 10:27 PM

not bad... the design is ok... juz dunno how is the fuel comsumption as mpv is quite a fuel thirst

my shallow knowledge on chery...cina mari...good luck

Maybe the Quality is better than "Proton" ler....
The engine is ok la since is Mitsubishi 1. Not bad la....RM86k++ nia....

its using a sourced Mitsubishi 2.4 litre 4GXX engine

Fuel consumption at 11.4 km/liter (at 90 km/h), which is not bad for a 2.4 CC engine. Any online reviews?

Design looks ok but a bit out-dated. Dunno about the quality though, I think ppl still vary about the reliability.

What can you expect from Chinese cars?
Reputable brand? Nope
Trusted?
Powerful?
Reliable? I wonder...
Safe? * You gotta be kidding me*

lol mayb u r right ... every one now being phobia about made in china bcoz of the poison milk incident...however, if u wanna buy something nowaday which is not made in china i think will lack of selection...

At least some famous brand will have a very strict qc when it comes to product in China..
for their home brand, i doubt so.

design ok...but the quality...the airbag also like not fitted properly...then when crash...would it open?

For 86k, might as well settle down with a more reliable Nissan Livina or add a few thousand for a Toyota Innova ??

no resale value.

you buy you rugi.

alado give 3 years warranty, after 3 year then you might have problem to get part at a fair price. somemore resale value would be very very low.
unless you stay langkawi lah, only 40k. pakai buang
80k better you get a japanese mpv
or wait for the clone of this mpv make by proton

Yeah. Livina should be better.... Innova no lah, design like an old man lah.....

if 86k, better get the japan livina lor, even naza citra is also better in peace of mind.

livina not japan anyway
design from china

design almost the same as proton MPV. y dun we wait for proton MPV. maybe this time proton can 'pawn' some..hehe

Being a family vehicle, check and see if it is sold in North America or Europe. Even cars like Rondo are World Cars, being sold in countries where NHSTA NCAP or EURO NCAP tests are mandatory. Caveat Emptor!

The new proton MPV is expected to be based on this cherry mpv, yes so it's made by proton but at least you won't find out 5 years down the road the plastics in the car gives you brain damage and proton is going to be cheaper also, with 'proper' aftersales service

Crash Test ... IMHO this is an A160 ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A

I just consider of where to get it's spare part & will the reseller consistent in malaysia or not.

you guys talk like you guys knows every thing .....so far my chery MPV already 'makan' wish 2.0 , G livina 1.8 , innova 2.0 , naza 2.5 dont play 2 ...wait until my mech put a 4G63 T inside.......Malaysian = Branded Consciuos = Listen To Rumours = Status Conscious bla bla bla......give cherry a few more years ....those overpriced japs and korean cars or conti ....will feel the pain ......

Could you give us a review on items below:

1. Driving performance
2. Car features - interior and exterior
3. Fuel consumption (please indicate the driving speed)
4. Space
5. Service and service center location

Saw the real thing today. Looked like a cross between Mitsubishi Grandis and Toyota Wish, but much cheaper. At first I was hesistant because of the brand but after careful inspection and test drive, I'm convinced. Most likely I'll will book it tomorrow.

Read the detail review here:
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/09/03/che...r-7-seater-mpv/

Very elegant design:
http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_...p?CarCode=10442

Any other comments? Experience?

And your mech wants to put in a 20-25 year old engine to replace the so-called-able-to-'makan'-other-mpv engine because?

It looks like x-trail from the back.
From the website, most features boasted are still basic features.

Hrmmm... no review from Paul. The rating is from a Singapore site, would prefer if the rating is from a Malaysian guy. Maybe after u bought it, give us a review.

PerfumeTrader

Could you give us a review on items below:

1. Driving performance
2. Car features - interior and exterior
3. Fuel consumption (please indicate the driving speed)
4. Space
5. Service and service center location

This post has been edited by tanos: Oct 16 2008, 07:19 AM

Surehit please do a good review on it. How about service centres? I believe most of the dealers are 1S only meaning if you have a warranty problem, how will they react? How many service centres nationwide? Do they stock parts? Being a family carrier - please check on the crash safety, braking system, etc. I believe this vehicle is not being sold in the US or Europe, so forgive me, I'm being, without prejudice a bit wary, personally.

You sure what you're talking correctly?
How you define makan? Just because you managed to overtake and
then you very bangga?
I haven't seen any Chery MPV on the road yet,
but if I see one, I can guess that it would be yours.

With so little on the road, it is indeed rare.

But I just wanna know, why buy Chery?

emm quite ok to me...

waiting for da roll-out of proton mpv..

This post has been edited by ssyy: Oct 16 2008, 08:45 AM

Sure, will do. This MPV is being assembled in Johor by Oriental (Honda factory). So it's meant for local market first. But I think Chery has been exporting cars to many countries now. I was shown a list of service centers nationwide, hope they are good coz they give 3 years warranty and 1 year free service. Comes with Dual Airbags, ABS and EBD.


My opinion of Chevy Eastar MPV after viewing and test drive:

1. Driving performance: stable, smooth and relatively quiet on the busy Ampang Road. Good acceleration. felt like a strong horse ready to burst compare to my aging Waja.

2. Car features - the interior is nice to look at except the seats have so-so fabric. Changing to leather will improve the overall look and feel. Laquered steering and dashboard surprisingly give a more elegant feel than Proton Perdana or Naza Ria. The aircon is the best, very cool and strong. Automatically adjust according to the interior temp. Last row kinda seats kinda small but still bigger than Grand Livina.

The exterior boast twin lamps similar to Satria Neo while the rear lights is a combination of halogen and LED similar to Grandis/Wish/Stream. Since it's place at the top, minor accident won't damage it. Shape similar to Grandis/Stream. Less sleek than Wish.

3. Fuel consumption (please indicate the driving speed): no idea but I was told full tank is around RM160 to RM300 (by different salesguys) using a 62 litres tank.

4. Space: more roomier than Avanza & Grand Livina but less than Innova, Serena. Should be like Wish 1.8 except middle of 2nd row seats can be folded down to form a very comfortable armrest. Last rows kinda tight but still better than Grand Livina.

5. Service and service center location: I was shown a list of many outlets thoroughout Malaysia.

As for being on the road, this car was only launched on Sep 3, 2008. It's not a popular model so there should not be many OTR. I happened to see one yesterday, what a coincidence. But it was launched by our DPM.




Why I'm looking to buy it?

1. Nice elegant look, esp the rear.
2. Good features you can only find in higher price MPV: airbags, ABS, EBD, Steptronic (auto & manual transmission), Mitsubishi engine, 16" allow wheel.
3. Sleeker than Serena/Avanza/Innova but roomier than Grand Livina/Rush.

On my, I sold myself writing this. Hope I'm making the right choice. Wish me luck people.

Dude a nice review. Actually was also considering to buy it, but am afraid of the "Made in China" thing. Just look at Naza's car the one that was brought in from China (dont remember the name). SO many issues.

Well if there is one thing I've learned, don't generalize when it comes to car. Every brands/models/generations have their ups and downs.

I went from a total skeptic and negative perception to a convert. After a 2nd test drive today, I booked one.

Today I took my whole family plus my gf. My Dad and the salesman sit at the 3rd row comfortably, 2 large adults. So I took 7 persons (6 adults and 1 child) on a ride.

Acceleration was smooth and good (maybe coz new car), quiet too. Pickup was zippy esp. after full stop. The most pleasant surprise was the U-Turn in a small road along Jalan Ampang. I made a swift turn with extra space to spare!! My Waja would probably need to turn 2-3 times. What a great turning ratio.

Then I changed from Auto to Manual to test their Steptronic. Pickup was faster and gear change no different from driving a manual car (but with a Mitsubishi 2.4 engine power).

This looks like a winner for Chery. Will update after I collect my car 3 weeks from now. My guess is, you will see many of these on the road soon...

well the spec looks good...

Surehit: Another good review. Makes me drool faster. What is the quoted price OTR?

@surehit : Congrats on your buy, do update us on the car when you receive it.

4G63 T used in Airtrek Turbo or EVO 7 engine ....lo.....this 4G64 2.4 tiptronic oledi can makan those MPV....if dump in Evo 7 or Mivec 2.4 sure cant tahan meh ......this is no bullshit ...this MPV can makan .......

For those who are sceptical ....no worries ...20000KM free of charge service at their new SC near C&C fed hway ....free nothing to pay for parts and labor....on top of that 3 years warranty .......option to xtend until 5 years...

Option for NGV

for long journey to can get RM 100 for 450 KM .....with RM 2.45 a liter ...average 100kmh ....this chinesse MPV can max about 180 Kmh at the moment ....

steering superb ...turning radius just like driving a sedan .....better than Waja Turning Radius ...

Fabric ....wise....need to upgrade....the material used not really good but acceptable....unlike Singapore or M'sia CKD where got sunroof and leather seat ....

Have 2 airbags for premium model ....now you can get it at RM 79888 !!!! for early 1000 customers .....hurry ....if not the price will be RM 86888

ABS EBD ....cornering 90 degrees can used one hand or one finger ...dont try if not professional .....he he

18 inch sport rim easily fitted in .....or 20 inch .....

what else huh .....just visit puchong / jalan 225 PJ / Ampang / Klang Kapar ....IOI puchong can test drive ......

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Added on October 17, 2008, 12:52 amthe spare tyre also fitted with 16 " alloy rim .....fuyooooo.....

The front headlight can be adjusted its level.....

Already discussed for Alado to form a club for this MPV ......hope the body kit will be introduced soon ....and BSA rims will offer Chery users good trade in value for our std rims if want to upgrade....

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Added on October 17, 2008, 1:00 am

CHERY EASTAR ONE YEAR FREE SERVICE OR

20,000KM WHICHEVER COMES FIRST

( Note: For First 1,000 units only)
Free Service
Regular Maintenance
Service Dealers












Service

Description
1,000km


* Change engine oil, oil filter and general check up
* Normal Engine Oil - 4LT
* Oil Filter - 1pc

5,000km


* Change engine oil, oil filter and general check up
* Normal Engine Oil - 4LT
* Oil Filter - 1pc

10,000km


* Change engine oil, oil filter and general check up
* Normal Engine Oil - 4LT
* Oil Filter - 1pc

15,000km


* Change engine oil, oil filter and general check up
* Normal Engine Oil -4LT
* Oil Filter - 1pc
* Air Filter - 1pc
* Spark Plugs - 4pcs

20,000km


* Change engine oil, oil filter and general check up
* Normal Engine Oil -4LT
* Oil Filter - 1pc
* ATF - (Auto Transmission Fluid) - 4LT
* Front Brake Pads - 1set
* Brake Fluid - 1 LT
* Radiator Coolant - 1LT
* Front Wiper Blades - 1 set

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Added on October 17, 2008, 1:02 amreference:

http://www.chinacarforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=10

or you can browse www.mychery,net



This post has been edited by PerfumeTrader: Oct 17 2008, 01:07 AM

price list
http://cheryalado.com/eastar/pricelist.htm

i am getting the black colour the next two weeks


last time everyone DID NOT TRUST Japanese cars - BUT TODAY it is the same treatment for China cars

do you think the Chinese trust Malaysian cars - especially POTONG

lets see the car in action without the label and most importantly

IMHO many of the worlds electronic and heavy industry equipment have some Chinese component

This post has been edited by zaizu: Oct 17 2008, 02:22 AM

Good ...I have also a mystic black ......and I name it ENIGMA.......go cherry go......used since 3 October 2008 .......lets form a club !!!

go enigma go !!!!

Honestly what is worst than a "Potong" interms of Quality, Consumption, Resale Value and etc..... New brands/models from competitors are good as it will benefits us. I think we should bench mark it with our national "pride" kereta "Potong" rather than Toyota, Honda, Nissan or Continental brands as the $$ bracket is the same with "Potong"...

any actual pics of your car perfume trader? i would like to view some real photos of malaysian market chery mpv..

Yeah, was asking him to do a review also....

cool.. waiting for it..

are you sure you "makan" (define makan pls ) all the mpv you mentioned above?!

2.4 litre only produce 127 horsie(stock) ? even wish 1.8 can pwn you easily... 1.8 already produce 132 horsie(stock)....

plus the kerb weight for Cherry MPV = 1505kg , wish only 1300kg kerb weight , more 200kg+ man..

This post has been edited by AiRBooM: Oct 17 2008, 09:59 AM

i was thinking da same too... makan means potong i think.. can overtake those mpvs.. i think its not because theyre not good, they chose to drive slowly..

yeah man.... mpv meant to be people carrier... if want to race might as well drive a sedan or hatchback ...

This post has been edited by AiRBooM: Oct 17 2008, 10:01 AM

so kenyang la the chery mpv.. makan others. btw i personally thinks that the chery mpv lacks in quality. it looked good in pictures but the real thing is not as good.. the trimming looks very cheap. cheaper than the one in proton i can say.. yes, they introduce luxury in their interior but when you see the real thing, the wood trimmings feels and looks cheap.. the surface of the wood trimming is not silky.. just my opinion..

for mpv i think the torque is more important, and 198 at 3000rpm i reckon is a good figure...

makan wsih 2.0 can .........

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Added on October 17, 2008, 3:29 pmthe time I try to makan wish 2.0 is at traffic light uphill some more.....the torque trick for chery was so great....we talking about the torque this china / mitsu is acceptable.....tonite if got time...I will upload my black enigma.....any1 know market price for airtrek 4G63T potong engine ????

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Added on October 17, 2008, 3:31 pm198nm at 3K RPM .....gosh ...use tiptronic......fuyooooo .....bolt on turbo will improve more.....

This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 17 2008, 03:31 PM

^
you sure the people are racing with you on uphill or u syok sendiri thought ppl wanna race u thus u rev gao gao?

http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2...43725c46uw3.jpg

This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 17 2008, 04:24 PM

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ok... saw the diffrences already... Chery Mitsu 4G64 engine indeed has better torque compare to japan MPV..

oh ya.. show some photo of your cherry mpv , would like to see more photo on this mpv

Wish 2.0

Length 4560mm
Width 1695mm
Height 1590mm
Wheelbase 2750mm
Kerb Weight 1360kg
Gross Weight N/A
Fuel Tank Capacity 60 liter
Bore X Stroke = 86 X 86
Max Power = 114KW at 6000 RPM
Torque = 192nm @ 4000 RPM


Chery Mitsu 4G64 engine

Length 4662mm
Width 1820mm
Height 1590mm
Wheelbase 2800mm
Kerb Weight 1505kg
Gross Weight 2030kg
Fuel Tank Capacity 62 liter
Bore X Stroke = 86.51 X 100
Max Power = 95KW at 5500 RPM
Torque = 198nm @ 3000 RPM


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Added on October 17, 2008, 4:17 pmtaikoh.....ni bukan syok 2 sendiri meh .....lacing punya wooooo ....

http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2944022225cd9152758ayb2.jpg

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Added on October 17, 2008, 4:33 pmhttp://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2944022217c8296872aeiv0.jpg

This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 17 2008, 04:33 PM

Enigma4646,

mind to share the fc and service cost (if u have sent for service)?

thanks

service cost for 20K is totally free la.....for 1st 1000 customers they are using AGIP engine oil meh....done my 1st 1000km service ....they change AGIP engine oil and chery oil filter......so no need to worry on service fee.....TOTALLY FREE.....and comes with 3 year warranty.....

FC so far RM 100 = 450KM long distance .....to east coast ....

town RM 100 = 380 KM....at RM 2.45 a liter....now will more cheaper and more distance laaa...

BTW my right foot is so 'heavy' lo.......tiptronic maniac......

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Added on October 17, 2008, 8:17 pmone more time .....wish gone slowly in my rear mirror.........

This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 17 2008, 08:17 PM

Will get my car next week, Sapphire Silver....so called from the SA. Anyway, anyone know how much it need for a leather trimming (Penang/KL). Alado quoted at RM4500 for leather trimming and NGV for RM7000.

Enigma4646... u seem to be happy wit ur chery... y tampal mitsu badge?

better seek outside price for leather trimming / fabric trimming ....NGV ....dont la.....lots of headache later......Hidrogen or water base also an alternative ...but playsafe .....petrol la.....price going to go down further.....

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Added on October 18, 2008, 4:48 amwhy cant I rebadge my own MPV? why dont you ask that question to NAZA / Proton / Perodua / Inokom ?

I heard Plotong also wanna rebadge Mitsu Lancer to Ploton logo next year .....

I can even tampal BMW badge .....or Mercedes badge......why you wanna give me money if I tampal back those Chery emblem ???? he he he


This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 18 2008, 04:48 AM

Enigma, how much do you spend for the special number 4646, anyway, did you put in any additional accessories/ trimming? As the interior are quite easy of get dirty, especially when you'd kids, any precautions? you had taken to avoid this, kind to share?

Hey bro, how's the ride so far? I'll be getting mine somewhere around early Nov. Can't wait.

How much full tank? I was told it's RM160 only, correct?

Main point I bought mine, and the high turning ratio too. The ride is so much smoother and comfortable than my friend's Avanza.


I bought Sapphire Silver too.

Try this: http://www.newtonleather.com/

Call 03-9285 8866 and ask for Colin Wong. Said you are refer by Mr Wong (me) who will be doing full Italian leather next month. He should give you a good price around RM3400.

NGV I think around Batu Caves got. Ask the taxi drivers.

Go Chery Go!!

mana full tank RM 160 ....that old petrol price meh???? 62 liter X RM2.30 = RM 142 only ....lets assume the fuel has 5 liters reserve....left only 55 liter to be filled up .....you count yourself la.....I just filled up RM 100 = 43.48 liters ... Puchong to Sg Siput consume only RM 70 worth of petrol........

go cherry go .....huh .....cherry sounds too feminine huh ?????? go go enigma !!!!

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Added on October 18, 2008, 6:57 pmYou agree ....saei lok saei lok.....RM 350 only meh ....got JPJ close friends....I ask for WRV ...but he gave me WRW....fuhhhh lagi leng la......

anyway to avoid scratches and dirty ....try to any accesorries shop ....find a sticker i.e. like a bus floor ....checkers design .....that is chrome ....cut it nicely and put it under the door where kids always make it dirty .....perhaps tomorrow I will do it DIY ....and post some photos here....it cost RM 38 at kedai ABANG .....other accessories shop not sure......maybe enuff for 4 pairs of that thing ......

if lebih one .....can put at the back ......we will see.....

any one dare to put 18 inch wheel yet????? Jalan Kapar how much ????? just nearby my home......if got time ....will have a look.....



This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 18 2008, 06:57 PM

no offense but when you put other brand badge into your car will make it look abit stupid
just stay original and proud of what you own
hope you are not angry,it jus my opinion.

i hope your review of can change the negative mindset of chinacar overhere

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Added on October 18, 2008, 8:25 pmdont put big rims unless you will tune your suspension setting
or else later your car performance and comfort will be bad

This post has been edited by zacevox: Oct 18 2008, 08:25 PM

Ok ok, Go Eastar Go!!

I remembered there is an invincible Chinese martial artist called "Tung Fong Pak Pai". Same like this car lor...

Maybe I name my car "Silver Surfer" when I get it.

Will take my family up Genting once I break 1000km.

why need to wait till 1000km?

Genting ??? sure 2 after review it here......

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Added on October 19, 2008, 12:17 amhttp://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=11

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Added on October 19, 2008, 12:55 amFew Comparisons....

Honda Stream 1.8 RSZ (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 1,799 cc
Engine type 1.8 SOHC i-VTEC
Compression ratio 10.5
Bore x Stroke (81.0 x 87.3) mm
Power 140 bhp
Torque 174 Nm
Performance
Acceleration unknown
Top Speed unknown
Fuel consumption 14.8 km\L
Misc technical data
Transmission 5-speed automatic with paddle-shift
Drive type FF

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4570 x 1695 x 1545)mm
Wheelbase 2,740mm
Min turning radius 5,500mm
Kerb weight 1,400kg
Fuel tank capacity 55L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) Macpherson strut type
Suspension (Rear) Reactive-link, double wishbone

Chery V5 Crossover 2.4 (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 2,350 cc
Engine type 16-valve DOHC 4 cylinders in-line EMPI
Compression ratio unknown
Bore x Stroke unknown
Power 130 bhp
Torque 198 Nm
Performance
Acceleration 15s (0-100kmh)
Top Speed 178kmh
Fuel consumption 11.3 km\L
Misc technical data
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Drive type unknown

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4662 x 1820 x 1590)mm
Wheelbase 2,800mm
Min turning radius unknown
Kerb weight 1,505kg
Fuel tank capacity 62L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Ventilated disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) Independent MacPherson strut with cylindrical coil spring, dual-acting tube damper and anti-roll bar
Suspension (Rear) Independent Multi-link type with cylindrical coil spring, dual-acting tube damper and anti-roll bar

Kia Carens 2.0 (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 1,998 cc
Engine type 2.0L 16-valve CVVT
Compression ratio 10.5
Bore x Stroke (86.0 x 86.0) mm
Power 145 bhp
Torque 189 Nm
Performance
Acceleration 11.9s (0-100kmh)
Top Speed 181kmh
Fuel consumption unknown
Misc technical data
Transmission 4-speed automatic
Drive type unknown

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4545 x 1800 x 1650)mm
Wheelbase 2,700mm
Min turning radius 5,400mm
Kerb weight 1,418kg
Fuel tank capacity 55L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Ventilated disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) MacPherson strut with coil spring
Suspension (Rear) Multi-link with coil spring

Toyota Wish 1.8 Aerosports (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 1,794 cc
Engine type 4 cylinder 16 valves VVT-i DOHC water cooled
Compression ratio 10
Bore x Stroke (79.0 x 91.5) mm
Power 132 bhp
Torque 174 Nm
Performance
Acceleration unknown
Top Speed unknown
Fuel consumption unknown
Misc technical data
Transmission 4-speed automatic with super ECT with sequential shiftmatic
Drive type unknown

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4560 x 1695 x 1590)mm
Wheelbase 2,750mm
Min turning radius 5,300mm
Kerb weight 1,300kg
Fuel tank capacity 60L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Ventilated disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) MacPherson strut type, Coil spring
Suspension (Rear) Torsion beam type, Coil spring

Mitsubishi Grandis 2.4 G (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 2,378 cc
Engine type 4G69 MIVEC
Compression ratio 9.5
Bore x Stroke (87.0 x 100.0) mm
Power 165 bhp
Torque 217 Nm
Performance
Acceleration unknown
Top Speed unknown
Fuel consumption unknown
Misc technical data
Transmission INVECS-II 4-speed automatic with sports mode
Drive type unknown

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4775 x 1935 x 1685)mm
Wheelbase 2,830mm
Min turning radius 5,500mm
Kerb weight 1,690kg
Fuel tank capacity 65L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Ventilated discs
Brakes (Rear) Drum-in discs
Suspension
Suspension (Front) Macpherson strut coil springs
Suspension (Rear) Semi-trailing arm coil springs

Toyota Alphard 2.4 AX (A) specifications

Toyota Alphard 2.4 AX (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 2,362 cc
Engine type IMZ-FE, 4 cylinder, Inline, DOHC
Compression ratio 9.6
Bore x Stroke (88.5 x 96.0) mm
Power 157 bhp
Torque 220 Nm
Performance
Acceleration unknown
Top Speed unknown
Fuel consumption unknown
Misc technical data
Transmission 5-speed automatic super electronically controlled
Drive type unknown

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4845 x 1830 x 1935)mm
Wheelbase 2,900mm
Min turning radius 5,800mm
Kerb weight 1,790kg
Fuel tank capacity 70L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Ventilated Disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) MacPherson strut
Suspension (Rear) Torsion beam

Toyota Alphard 3.0 MS (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 2,994 cc
Engine type 1MZ-FE watercooled V-6 DOHC
Compression ratio 10.5
Bore x Stroke (87.5 x 83.0) mm
Power 220 bhp
Torque 304 Nm
Performance
Acceleration unknown
Top Speed unknown
Fuel consumption unknown
Misc technical data
Transmission Super intelligent 4 automatic
Drive type 2WD

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4845 x 1830 x 1935)mm
Wheelbase 2,900mm
Min turning radius 5,800mm
Kerb weight 1,850kg
Fuel tank capacity 70L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Ventilated discs
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) Strut coil spring
Suspension (Rear) Torsion beam coil spring


Toyota Estima 2.4 Aeras (A) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 2,362 cchttp://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Post&CODE=02&f=20&t=803752
Engine type 2AZ-FE 4 Cylinders DOHC with VVT-i
Compression ratio 9.6
Bore x Stroke (88.5 x 96.0) mm
Power 170 bhp
Torque 224 Nm
Performance
Acceleration unknown
Top Speed unknown
Fuel consumption 12.4 km\L
Misc technical data
Transmission Super CVT-i with sequential shift-matic
Drive type FF

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (4795 x 1800 x 1730)mm
Wheelbase 2,950mm
Min turning radius 5,700mm
Kerb weight 2,140kg
Fuel tank capacity 65L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Disc
Brakes (Rear) Disc
Suspension
Suspension (Front) Macpherson strut type, Coil spring, Independent
Suspension (Rear) Torsion beam axle



This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 19 2008, 12:55 AM

lol
my grandis fc only rm120 full
+164hp with 2.4l

but chery not bad..
just wonder why its so cheap only 8x,xxx
then gt 2.4l mitsu engine and honda stream need 14x,xxx but with 1.8l

because it's china's brand... if this is mitsu brand it would be rm140-180k already

btw 1.8 wish FC is rm105 = 550km

average 14km per litre

50% city & 50 % highway

This post has been edited by AiRBooM: Oct 19 2008, 01:29 AM

Enigma, pls. post us the DIY once it is completed, maybe will copy your design...hopefully no need to pay royalties-hor...

ha ha ha pray dont rain this afternoon.will update later.FC according to spec. 11km a liter ie 22 cent a km for a 2.4liter.why this Eastar is cheap bcoz China has 'copy it right '....even a grandis version I already saw in one of d china forum!

"Acceleration 15s (0-100kmh)" the data is WRONG!
the sgcarmart.com content mentioned 11s, but the title put 15s ??
15s will be as slow as old hilux pickup already

they did mentioned used tiptronic can get 11s maaaa...15s is using std auto gear ( spec in brochure )......faham meh???? i own one ...and i did tried .....can prove to below 10s if using oped pod air filter........

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Added on October 19, 2008, 1:04 pm"There, sitting placidly under the hood, was a Mitsubishi-sourced 2.4l SOHC 4G64 engine – nothing like the workhorse 4G63 performer but still a monster when it came to torque. As an encore, it brings the car to 100km/h from standstill in only 11 seconds.

This was done with the automatic shifted into ‘tiptronic’ mode. The major limitation here was that there were only 4 speeds to play with, soaking up the ‘fun’ factor from the overall driving experience." quote from thr review

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Added on October 19, 2008, 1:10 pmChery A1

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Added on October 19, 2008, 1:38 pm

Chery A1 1.3 5dr (M) specifications

Engine
Engine capacity 1,297 cc
Engine type 4 cylinders inline, 16 valves, DOHC, EMPI
Compression ratio unknown
Bore x Stroke unknown
Power 82 bhp
Torque 114 Nm
Performance
Acceleration 16s (0-100kmh)
Top Speed 156kmh
Fuel consumption 16.6 km\L
Misc technical data
Transmission 5-speed manual
Drive type unknown

Measurements
Dimensions (L x W x H) (3700 x 1578 x 1527)mm
Wheelbase 2,390mm
Min turning radius 4,750mm
Kerb weight 1,040kg
Fuel tank capacity 43L
Brakes
Brakes (Front) Disc
Brakes (Rear) Drum
Suspension
Suspension (Front) Independent MacPherson struts with cylindrical coil springs, dual acting tube damper and anti-roll bar
Suspension (Rear) Semi-independent trailing arm type with cylindrical coil springs and dual acting tube damper


This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 19 2008, 01:38 PM

tis 1 nt bad..
i think the price can be considered since the mpv only 8x,xxx
the should be 5x,xxx-6x,xxx

If CKD sure cheap one.....not bad huh .....it was Italy 'claim' designer by Cherry ....price diff between CKD and CBU I think around RM 50K ........

To Dynasan ....sorry today Shah Alam ...rain heavily .......and lots of open houses .....the sticker purchased already at RM35 ......for a meter length.....perhaps tomorrow....I start my DIY.......just get back from Sepang ......Naza Ria pun 'Kena' .........he he.......at 22 cent a KM ......you only need RM 100 for a 450KM of journey .......driving speed 90-100KM/H .....

sure....looking forward for the photos.
makan Naza again ar...sure your 46464 will be well known liao...

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Added on October 20, 2008, 1:04 amRm100 for 450km is not bad...even my old WAJA will give Rm140 for about 500km (city driving)

This post has been edited by dynasan: Oct 20 2008, 01:04 AM

haimeh?.....just test the capability....

Hey Dynasan,

Got you car already? How izzit? Have you change to full leather seats & trims?

Are you sure only RM100 for 450km on a Mitsubishi 2.4 engine? This is fantastic!!

Even my Waja makan RM130 for about 500km in the city like you.

Hey what you do with your old Waja, what is the best way to sell it off, newspaper ad?

i have no respect for china's car. they only know how to copy and paste, then produce rojak. their cars bear no identity, no fixed design cue.

you are right

everyone copies everyone else

these are the same comments the white people used to describe Toyota and Honda last time

even Proton and Perodua have certain models rebadged

BUT the price is also fair for a China made copy and paste car with no identity and no design cue

- i think the price is extremely fair at RM 80,000 approx for Chery 2.4

BTW
Chery is the largest independent car maker in China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_Automobile


This post has been edited by zaizu: Oct 20 2008, 11:41 AM

copy and inspiration are 2 different things as one may be inspired from its competitor's design and produces something similar. rebadge is also ok because its part of the marketing strategy.

as for china, 80% copy and 20% degraded it. try google it, and you will see fake version of mercedes, crv, rolls royce, terios, x5... and they have no imagination for their own original designs.

i dun mind paying cheap price for many china goods. but for cars, well, you pay what you get, good luck

Dude, I think like you before I saw and test drive the car. The test drive was awesome with 7 persons inside.

For what I'm paying, I'm getting:

1. Nice elegant look, esp the rear.
2. Good features you can only find in higher price MPV: airbags, ABS, EBD, Steptronic (auto & manual transmission), Mitsubishi 2.4L engine, 16" allow wheel.
3. Good petrol consumption from the feedbacks here, RM100 for 450km.
4. Sleeker than Serena/Avanza/Innova but roomier than Grand Livina/Rush. Sits 7 people comfortably.
5. Auto adjust air-con with blowers on last 2 rows.
6. 3 years warranty and 1 year free service. Use Mitsubishi spare parts.

RM80k now, mana boleh dapat from other brands?

wow, thats pretty good fuel consumption for 2.4. well, i suppose they get this one rite then. thanks

I sold my waja 2003 ( M ) at RM 26000 ....last month .....cash buyer .....with 3 kids and a maid u sure need an mpv....

To all Malaysians that are sceptical about chery MPV ....let it be.....for me and the rest of chery user ....we are happy with our choice.....as long as my family happy ....and my pocket also happy .....

At Kapar they trade in our std rim at RM 900 with tyre for a selected 18 inch rim ....gosh ......insane to change 18inch .....!!!! Hope they will design our bodykit soon.....lets pray ...

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Added on October 20, 2008, 12:19 pmyes....China too good in " copy it right " !!!! but i like it .....

This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 20 2008, 12:19 PM

I saw one OTR yesterday. it looks sleek from the back. Better than a Wish, I reckon.

Front design isn't everybody's cup of tea, looks kinda awkward but the lights that shoots out from the headlamps is...

This car deserves a chance.

BTW, what is "dual tone horns" ? Got two types of horns in this car ah? So interesting?

What China did now...is too give us M'sian more choices and value for money vehicle...fake handbags / perfumes / watches / toys / all made in China .....but I'm happy .....They make it AFFORDABLE.......

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Added on October 20, 2008, 12:31 pmat least the CD/MP3 player have an USB connection ......new Myvi facelift just include it recently ......next purchase to buy sun visor DVD player to distract the kids....he he

This post has been edited by Enigma4646: Oct 20 2008, 12:31 PM

no yet-lor...still waiting from the SA to confirm this week. For the leather, I will check the price in Penang, probably will be cheaper.
This MPV will be my weekend car, as most of the time will be driven by my wife....hope she know how to use the tiptronics ... will be driving my Waja as usual.

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Added on October 20, 2008, 1:42 pmgot maid ar....happy-lah, can ask your maid to wash the car everyday...sure very shining one
18 inch....too big-lah....17inch I think it's better. my suggestion is to get those portable DVD player that can be used with the 12V car adaptor... can get those with 12 inch LCD one....now it cost around RM500-700...

This post has been edited by dynasan: Oct 20 2008, 01:42 PM

got maid also BTW saw at kedai abang ...DVD sun visor left side come with 7 inch screen and DVD player ....can use 12V socket maa....only RM 290 ......plug and play .....if want cheaper ....go to Jln Pasar KL .....lots of choice ....or buy online thru lelong meh ......

18 inch too large ya........will think about it.........

this is what Proton MPV body is based on.

But sure.. P. MPV eats this for lunch and dinner..