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jasperng
post Sep 22 2008, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 22 2008, 04:59 PM)
Sorry for the late reply. Was away in Manchester over the weekend  smile.gif

ECUK exam - It's probably best to check online and read up on their website about the exam. I'm on an MEng course so I haven't been looking into that as yet.

May i know is the placement you are referring equivalent to internship in malaysia ? ..  Yes it is basically an internship.

MEng/BEng?.. Well you're in NMC. So I guess you're in your 3rd (final) year now? If you're adamant on actually working in the UK and achieving your chartered status, then yea, you should extend your course to MEng.
What I'm wondering though is the fact that you can actually come to the UK even if you're on the BEng course. If you're in your 2nd year than you should be able to do that next year, but if you're in your 3rd year then I guess it's too late now  sad.gif

May i know what is the account of english universities are you referring ? .. I study at the University of Bath and that was mainly where my description was derived from. However, I've also visited other universities, namely University of Bristol (not UWE), Nottingham UK and Manchester as well and they all seem to have the same sort of atmosphere. I have to say though, Bath is a campus uni and so is Notts. However, Notts UK is a super-huge campus whilst Bath's campus is just fractionally larger than NMC. Bristol and Manchester on the other hand are city universities and they're sort of scattered/integrated into the city. Some would prefer the bustling streets to the calm and quiet of the campus. And do check out the universities, surf around, look at some pictures, ask some friends, it will help you make your decision.
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Its too late to transfer to UK as the application was this year january. =/ regretted. However one thing i scare is that ... if i go there for my final year, it is possible that I need some time to get used to the "very" new environment. Knowing it is my final year, life will be hectic... thus it's a risk for me to go there for my final year too .... i dont know how all the lecturers there and etc etc ... by the time i get used to it .. i suppose i will have to rush for my final year project too >.< scary tho ..

mm However it is also possible to take MSc after my BEng right ? ... With a MSc, do i still need ECUK exam to get myself register with professioanl body ?
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Sep 21 2008, 08:04 PM)
Good to know they are reliable. But how's the product quality? Care to elaborate a bit more about them?
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not sure bout their product quality. the only thing is most of the material for their plates are made from melanine. considered to be quite expensive material to b used. but definately better than plastic or glass. they claim to be using all high quality items though but that is wat all companies claim.

so my best advise is to take them wif a pinch of salt. anyway i'll be purchasing from them coz it'll definately lighten the weigh of my bag biggrin.gif
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post Sep 23 2008, 06:28 AM

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Did the same. Got the AEP pack. Can't imagine packing & dragging pots and pans over 10552-km.

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post Sep 23 2008, 02:50 PM

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AEP pack, might as well just buy it separately from tesco & ikea etc.

they are as cheap, as reliable and get only what you need.
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post Sep 23 2008, 03:38 PM

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New in town. No transport. Know no one. Better get the AEP and be done with. And will be there BEFORE you landed. Who knows, those pans could be a life saver for cooking maggie mee the 1st night icon_question.gif

And neither fancy sleeping without blanket the 1st night either.

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post Sep 23 2008, 03:51 PM

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jasperng, there isn't much that you would need to adjust your life to. however the weather may get to you and that would be the biggest change that you would need to overcome. And as far as ECUK exam goes, I don't think its necessary if you have MEng or MSc.

Optiplex330, if you come to the university in the university accomodation, I'm sure you will do fine. At the very least, they'll provide you with a blanket and duvet smile.gif And shopping for essentials can be taken slowly, one step at a time.
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post Sep 23 2008, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 23 2008, 03:51 PM)
jasperng, there isn't much that you would need to adjust your life to. however the weather may get to you and that would be the biggest change that you would need to overcome. And as far as ECUK exam goes, I don't think its necessary if you have MEng or MSc.

Optiplex330, if you come to the university in the university accomodation, I'm sure you will do fine. At the very least, they'll provide you with a blanket and duvet smile.gif And shopping for essentials can be taken slowly,  one step at a time.
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wah which uni u studying ar ? supply free blanket or duvet?? when i was staying in uni hall , they only provide me with 2 pillows n nothing else sweat.gif

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yup...i doubt there is a duvet and blanket. asked imperial accommodation they say go buy sad.gif

@Xp3rT: Of coz can buy from tesco and all, but we're newbies going there the less the hassle the better.

@optiplex330: btw which AEP pack u bought? single or double bed? i plan to buy the Imperial essential pack and the sleeping/night pack biggrin.gif

btw AEP is combination of the 2 rite? cooking stuff and bed sheet etc.
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post Sep 23 2008, 05:46 PM

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Lol. As I said, you have to find out for sure. I went to University of Bath and their halls have most essentials provided.

Although buying from all-unied.com wouldn't be such a bad idea either. Fair to say that you won't get absolute high quality products, but they aren't the use-it-once type of disposables either. That £90 spent would last you the year, or perhaps even longer.

And as I know, some universities also have catered halls so you don't even have to do the cooking.
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QUOTE(jinXxxx @ Sep 23 2008, 05:46 PM)
Lol. As I said, you have to find out for sure. I went to University of Bath and their halls have most essentials provided.

Although buying from all-unied.com wouldn't be such a bad idea either. Fair to say that you won't get absolute high quality products, but they aren't the use-it-once type of disposables either. That £90 spent would last you the year, or perhaps even longer.

And as I know, some universities also have catered halls so you don't even have to do the cooking.
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lol....no wonder. bath uni biggrin.gif my ex-schoolmate also going there. bugger damn nice. single room en suite wif TV all for GBP80/week biggrin.gif

mine twin sharing en suite wif no frills GBP116/week. damn i shud had applied for bath. some more imperial no catered hall. lazy buggers =.=

ur room wat did u get? mind telling?
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eh London sure more expensive la , hw can u compare with bath ....
btw self catered better , cook whenever u wanna eat , n dont have to wake up so early in the morning to have breakfast when you dont have morning lecture smile.gif
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eh...my bro in uni of bath and en suite room but got no duvet and tv...80++ per week somemore... blink.gif
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QUOTE(jasperng @ Sep 20 2008, 01:46 AM)
I would like to know is it better to take ECUK exam or a MEng to get myself register with the body ? Is it better to get a MSc certificate as compared to ECUK exams ? Do they have class for ECUK exam ? ... how many papers in ECUK exam will I be expecting after BEng ?

One thing i realized is that I can work while taking ECUK exam... which is a advantage as i can gain working experience during the process. But ... it is also not easy to work and study for exam at the same time .... this worries me .
May i know is the placement you are referring equivalent to internship in malaysia ? .. 
I am sure that I would take BEng too if I started my first year in UK because i can get into working world earlier. However, my case is different here. Im taking ELectrical and electroninc engineering degree at nottingham malaysia campus. If i take BEng, I will graduate in malaysia. Thus, i will not have opportunity to work in UK. In this case do you think i should take MEng to graduate in Nottingham UK in order to allow me to find job in UK upon graduation ? ... In addition, this not only allows me to have study experience in UK but also allows me to register with professional body. It's like hitting two birds with one stone.

Other way is to take MSc in UK after my BEng, this choice allows me to have more flexibility to choose my university for postgraduate.. However, I have difficulty in choosing course for my postgraduate study too as MSc is more specialize whereas MENg is more general and wider range..
May i know what is the account of english universities are you referring ? ... i dont mind to check it out if you allow me to =)


Added on September 20, 2008, 1:51 am

If you say that it will be a common standard in the future to have a master qualification, does it mean that taking MEng would help you more in the future ?  I do realize there are similarities between MEng and MSc syllabus .. I consulted my lecturer and he told me that MEng and MSc is on same leve of qualification although one is undergraduate and another is postgraduate master. But, im not sure how the actual employers perceive them ...
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ECUK exams is there basically to just top up your education level. It's a pass/fail thing. You expect 4 papers + 1 project. Exams are held once a year around May.

I would recommend getting a Masters if possible because it also has other additional benefits. One important thing is make sure your MSc. is recognised by the professional body you register to. It's not that difficult to study while working. It will only be more challenging if you have to work late, i.e. over 5.30pm until 7pm or 8pm.

I am personally inclined to take MSc instead of MEng as discussed previously.

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post Sep 23 2008, 08:17 PM

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Bath has alot of different accommodation. The ones one campus are fully furnished.

There are single rooms with shared toilets - £70/wk, single rooms with pods - £75/wk, single rooms with ensuite toilets - £85-90/wk. I'm not sure of the exact prices but they are there or thereabouts.

Off campus accommodations don't provide duvet but the rooms are bigger.

There's also a new hall on campus in Bath. That's called the Woodlands. And apparently, you get a cool keycard to access your room! How cool's that?!
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Sep 23 2008, 07:39 PM)
ECUK exams is there basically to just top up your education level.  It's a pass/fail thing.  You expect 4 papers + 1 project.  Exams are held once a year around May. 

I would recommend getting a Masters if possible because it also has other additional benefits.  One important thing is make sure your MSc. is recognised by the professional body you register to.  It's not that difficult to study while working.  It will only be more challenging if you have to work late, i.e. over 5.30pm until 7pm or 8pm. 

I am personally inclined to take MSc instead of MEng as discussed previously.
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As 1 paper each year, gonna take up 4 years in total, but then one will have enough recognized working experience, and liable to apply for CEng. Correct me if i'm wrong.

If one were to take Msc after BEng/MEng, he/she still has to work in order to accumulate enough working experience right?

So basically it's the matter that whether or not you wanna study while working. Is that possible if i were to avoid the ECUK exams, by working after graduation(BEng), then only i get a Msc after i've got enough cash? What matters me is 1 more year in UK gonna cost my dad another 100k.

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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Sep 24 2008, 02:17 AM)
As 1 paper each year, gonna take up 4 years in total, but then one will have enough recognized working experience, and liable to apply for CEng. Correct me if i'm wrong.

If one were to take Msc after BEng/MEng, he/she still has to work in order to accumulate enough working experience right?

So basically it's the matter that whether or not you wanna study while working. Is that possible if i were to avoid the ECUK exams, by working after graduation(BEng), then only i get a Msc after i've got enough cash? What matters me is 1 more year in UK gonna cost my dad another 100k.

Thanks.
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You are free to take as many subjects as you like within the limit (I recall it's 4). Your project can go concurrently with your exams.

Yes you can do that. The ultimate rule is when you apply for CEng, you will need to have a Master's level of education.


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:30 amOh and one more thing, I used to think about continuing my Masters after working when I have the cash.

However, having worked for two years, I have decided to take ECUK exams or part time studies because I don't find going back to university that much interesting as compared to working (experience + income).

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Sep 24 2008, 02:29 AM)
You are free to take as many subjects as you like within the limit (I recall it's 4).  Your project can go concurrently with your exams. 

Yes you can do that.  The ultimate rule is when you apply for CEng, you will need to have a Master's level of education.
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I see. Which means things we were examined in ECUK papers also equivalent to a Master. Roughly how much does each paper costs?


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:34 am
QUOTE(Geminist @ Sep 24 2008, 02:29 AM)
You are free to take as many subjects as you like within the limit (I recall it's 4).  Your project can go concurrently with your exams. 

Yes you can do that.  The ultimate rule is when you apply for CEng, you will need to have a Master's level of education.


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:30 amOh and one more thing, I used to thought about continuing my Masters after working when I have the cash. 

However, having worked for two years, I have decided to take ECUK exams or part time studies because I don't find going back to university that much interesting as compared to working (experience + income).
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Yea, that's what worrying me. Even my dad asked so. tongue.gif


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:37 amOh yea, if i've already titled as CEng, Does it matter if i have a BEng only, while the rest are BEng, Msc, CEng or MEng, CEng?


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QUOTE(Criptonox89 @ Sep 24 2008, 02:32 AM)
I see. Which means things we were examined in ECUK papers also equivalent to a Master. Roughly how much does each paper costs?


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:34 am
Yea, that's what worrying me. Even my dad asked so.  tongue.gif


Added on September 24, 2008, 2:37 amOh yea, if i've already titled as CEng, Does it matter if i have a BEng only, while the rest are BEng, Msc, CEng or MEng, CEng?
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Each paper cost about £100. Project cost about £300.

No one really gives a toss when you have CEng. But having a longer title on your business card always look nice biggrin.gif

Sorry, I clicked "edit" on your post by accident.

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Depends, but I'd stay away from Vodafone.

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