Doesn't matter.

Haha...yea, right. It's always nicer. Alright, those are my question so far..Thanks for helping bro.

many ppl seems to sing praises for O2 so i'll go for O2 when i go there what is wrong wif vodafone btw? expensive?

Expensive, increased mine and my partner's bill without telling us, changed our price plan without telling us, doesn't give a toss about existing customer by offering crappy deals but offers wonderful deals for new customers and unhelpful customer service.

O2 is pretty alright as I haven't had any problems with them so far and they have been very helpful when I needed to transfer my phone number.

ECUK is a professional qualification whereas Master degree is a academic qualification. the things you have learned from and processes toward both qualifications is quite different, so as the skills you attained.

Like said CEng is a professional qualification, it shows that you have qualified as a chartered engineer, doesnt matter previously you have had a BEng only or PhD.

can you make overseas calls with pay monthly free mins? I'm guessing no but give me your 2 cents

not anymore since sometime oct last year.

want to share something..

Orange Pay as you Go got "Camel" call plan where u can call back home as low as 6p/min..

Orange.co.uk

got a question. is there such thing as winter shoes or do we need to buy a shoe specific for winter???

if need be, then recommend some brand or type. (note: for MALE don go giving me high heels am tall enough )

Never really needed one before. I wear normal shoes only, even during winter.

So, you are implying that a recognised master will allow me to skip ecuk exam and register with the body ?

If im not wrong, I believe they will only start counting the required 4 years experience once you register with them. This means that you only can register with the body after 4 years of ECUK exam plus 4 years working experience making it total of 8 years to obtain the eligibility to apply for CEng.

Correct me if im wrong. Thanks


Hmm, Im not sure whether working while studying is a good choice. But, it is undeniable that doing so will allow me to gain experience and at the same time obtain qualification by the end of your study. However, if you consider the duration to obtain the eligibility to apply for CEng, which is Total duration for ECUK Exam + 4 years working experience, do you think it is worth to wait so long instead of taking a master for 1 year and start counting the 4 years working experience as you can register with the body?


so do you recommend ECUK instead of Master as it is a professional qualification ? Do they have class or practical class for ECUK exam ? ....

1) I do not know where this registration with them before you start working rule came from. Your work experience will always be true regardless of whether you are registered or not. Also, AFAIK, this 4 years is an arbitrary figure.

If you start taking your ECUK exams in the first year of your work, you need about 2-3 years to complete it (unless you failed some subjects). You can apply for your CEng once you have completed your ECUK exams + when you have enough working experience. This should be about 4-5 years since the first day you start working.

2) People tend to get confused with "register". I am registered with IMechE as an affliate since the first day I started my studies. Most body allows you to do this, so you can do this at an early stage if you're worried.

There are different grades in a professional body. It only matters when you want to apply as a member or your CEng. Most CEng./Member application goes hand in hand.

3) Yes. Your Masters need to be recognised. If you have that, you don't need to take any ECUK exams.

4) I am not aware of any practical class for the ECUK exams, I did all the studies on my own. They have some lecturers email for people to ask question, I sent mine in and non responded.

yes recognised master + professional development + professional review is the usual pathway to CEng.

and yes a minimum of 8 years.

i recommend to do a master degree instead. because you'll learn more skills to master level with a year of study at master level.

Eh?

http://www.engc.org.uk/documents/CEng_IEng_Standard.pdf

See Page 12 & 13. There is no minimum time requirement.

since i'll be taking EE got a question. i heard many ppl tell me go join IEEE. well though i know what that is, what good do i join them and is it necessary? can we join as students?

There is no requirement for “time-serving”.
Demonstration of competence and commitment is the sole criterion for registration.

Erm, what time serving are they referring to ? ...Does it mean that it has no specific time frame for the professional development section? As long as I able to demonstrate my competence and ability to maintain it, I am eligible for CEng ?

sorry I am slightly out of topic

Arturia, did you go to the fresher's camp at Pangkor?

hm.

should have said 'usually, by average, it takes abt 8 years' in order to fully exercise/achieve the competences.

you will get magazine from IEEE weekly IIANM and plenty of guidelines towards the professional development.

usually, people will join IEEE when they are working as a engineer / upon graduation.

why not use skype?
more more cheap

I see.

The reason I'm saying this is because in the company I work in, people usually go for CEng. on the 4th or 5th year since they first started working fresh out of university.

i applied my visa on 15th sep and til now there's no news on it...so worried.... i came across these emails from the british high commission malaysia website:

press.kualalumpur@fco.gov.uk - Public Diplomacy
trade.kualalumpur@fco.gov.uk - Trade and Investment
defence.kualalumpur@fco.gov.uk - Defence
political.kualalumpur@fco.gov.uk - Political/Economic
consular2.kualalumpur@fco.gov.uk - Consular

any idea which one to email to?? consular??

and one noob question....raining is quite often in uk right?? shud i get a nice big rain coat or an umbrella will do??