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Valum ram vs performance ram, effect on overclocking the FSB
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bryanyeo87
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Sep 13 2008, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 13 2008, 01:15 AM) if u're mentioning D9GMH,its only limited to 1GB sticks.Why? coz D9GMH chips are only available in 64Mb per chip. 1 DDR2 stick maximum can hold 16 chips.total 1gb on a stick for D9GMH. the current 1gb stick crucial ballistix , if its single sided,means its not D9GMH, its actually D9HNL.D9HNL is 128Mb per chip.so its used to make 2gb sticks nowadays to overcome density limitation by D9GMH.but D9HNL cant OC well.too bad. till now, i dunno wat other 2gb per stick RAM tht can do good OC above 1Ghz wif good timings. the answer is non. all 2gb sticks will not do tight timings at more then 1000mhz without excessively insane voltage (like 2.6 or 2.7)
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bryanyeo87
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Sep 13 2008, 02:48 AM
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failing that, how about goldfries edition rams? world fastest ddr2 rams lol! Attached thumbnail(s)
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goldfries
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Sep 13 2008, 02:50 AM
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40K Club
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i don't recall mid september has September Fools day.  but would be nice if i can make $$$ out of RAM chips.
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Hoodlums
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Sep 13 2008, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(boon.fong @ Sep 9 2008, 11:55 AM) Hi all, my rig is as below. one question, currently i am have difficulty overclock my intel e4600 to 3.0ghz (stable at 2.85ghz) on stock vcore. I am using value ram, is it holding me back? is it possible if i am changing to performance ram my rig can overclock pass 2.9-3.0ghz? thanks My previos KVR DDR667 stable OC E4400 @ 3.2GHz (320MHz*10, 2:3 Ratio), RAM running @ 960MHz
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OC4/3
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Sep 14 2008, 01:00 AM
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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 13 2008, 02:48 AM) failing that, how about goldfries edition rams? world fastest ddr2 rams lol!  Someone is nuts on playing SPD
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memkingdom
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Sep 15 2008, 07:42 AM
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commonly performance ram had more low CL value than value ram, so the access time will be faster than value ram. But I didn't really feel much different between them.
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k!nex
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Sep 15 2008, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(memkingdom @ Sep 15 2008, 07:42 AM) commonly performance ram had more low CL value than value ram, so the access time will be faster than value ram. But I didn't really feel much different between them. maybe bcoz u're using Intel system which is frequency more effect compare to latency.if u're using an AMD,different story already.
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CHiNO730
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Sep 15 2008, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 15 2008, 06:07 PM) maybe bcoz u're using Intel system which is frequency more effect compare to latency.if u're using an AMD,different story already. Can you elaborate on this?
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zer0hour
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Sep 15 2008, 11:33 PM
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Yup I'd like to know why you say that too.
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k!nex
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Sep 16 2008, 02:08 AM
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intel chips can overclock high FSB.high FSB needs high RAM frequency to cope wif the overclock.i believe the current C2D is fast becoz of the cache .high RAM frequency and high FSB assists the cache further.but intel platform need access the NB for the memory controller.thts latency already.intel is going for higher frequency in order to overcome the weakness in latency. AMD chips cant clock the bus speed high.but AMD memory bandwidth much higher than intel now coz of built in memory controller inside the processor itself.Intel platform memory controller is inside the chipset.low latency much benefit AMD coz data need not access the NB for the memory controller (shorter path).
this is wat i understand from articles i read across the websites. correct me if i'm wrong.my english might not be perfect.
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CHiNO730
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Sep 17 2008, 12:42 AM
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I'm not sure I understand.
You can find low latency memory and use it on Intel boards with better results compared to higher latency chips - thus low latency also improves performance on Intel chipsets.
The memory speed is also important because it determines how fast the cycle can be completed and the information delivered.
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TSboon.fong
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Sep 17 2008, 11:10 AM
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Hi All, currently i managed to get my proc oced to 2.88ghz (320 x9). So is there any different if i set my memory to 1:1 which is (640mhz) or as close to 800mhz as possible. In the bios i can set beyond 800mhz, if i set it will it overload my ram.
thanks
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ne0cz
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Sep 17 2008, 06:09 PM
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400 cannot ah boon? Why dont u up the Vcore? I not sure about E4600... I never had a C2D
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zer0hour
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Sep 17 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(boon.fong @ Sep 17 2008, 11:10 AM) Hi All, currently i managed to get my proc oced to 2.88ghz (320 x9). So is there any different if i set my memory to 1:1 which is (640mhz) or as close to 800mhz as possible. In the bios i can set beyond 800mhz, if i set it will it overload my ram. thanks Set your memory to as close to 800 as possible if you're going to stop at 320x9. If you're going to overclock further, leave it at 1:1 first.
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TSboon.fong
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Sep 17 2008, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(ne0cz @ Sep 17 2008, 06:09 PM) 400 cannot ah boon? Why dont u up the Vcore? I not sure about E4600... I never had a C2D my vcore (bios) already set at 1.35v, vcore idle is around 1.31 and vcore load is around 1.26-1.28v. the idle temp is 40c and full load in prime 95 can go up to 66c-68c. don't dare to set the vcore higher anymore....
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zer0hour
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Sep 18 2008, 12:16 AM
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Hmm those temps are a bit too hot for the Hyper 212. According to this chart it only loses to the CCF by 20%..so should be cooler. My QX@4.2Ghz loads at 60ish C. I'd say reseat HSF or lapping time. http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?...eid=2271&page=5
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wen9x88
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Sep 20 2008, 07:11 PM
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is there any different if i change my 667 value ram to performance ram? 2x2GB 667 change to 4 Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz
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hilmiangah
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Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM
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Kongsi Gelap Elite Ramadass
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:11 PM) is there any different if i change my 667 value ram to performance ram? 2x2GB 667 change to 4 Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz when youre surfing and do word processing it deosnt feel any faster. in gaming maybe.
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Golden
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Sep 20 2008, 07:38 PM
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Actually the difference isn't that much and hardly noticeable.
Performance RAM = marketing gimmick
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wen9x88
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Sep 20 2008, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM) when youre surfing and do word processing it deosnt feel any faster. in gaming maybe. hmm...many anot ?
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