Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
7 Pages < 1 2 3 4 5 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Valum ram vs performance ram, effect on overclocking the FSB

views
     
bryanyeo87
post Sep 13 2008, 02:46 AM

Below the Belt
*******
Senior Member
3,175 posts

Joined: May 2006
QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 13 2008, 01:15 AM)
if u're mentioning D9GMH,its only limited to 1GB sticks.Why? coz D9GMH chips are only available in 64Mb per chip. 1 DDR2 stick maximum can hold 16 chips.total 1gb on a stick for D9GMH. the current 1gb stick crucial ballistix , if its single sided,means its not D9GMH, its actually D9HNL.D9HNL is 128Mb per chip.so its used to make 2gb sticks nowadays to overcome density limitation by D9GMH.but D9HNL cant OC well.too bad.
till now, i dunno wat other 2gb per stick RAM tht can do good OC above 1Ghz wif good timings.
*
the answer is non. all 2gb sticks will not do tight timings at more then 1000mhz without excessively insane voltage (like 2.6 or 2.7)
bryanyeo87
post Sep 13 2008, 02:48 AM

Below the Belt
*******
Senior Member
3,175 posts

Joined: May 2006
failing that,

how about goldfries edition rams? world fastest ddr2 rams lol! laugh.gif




Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
goldfries
post Sep 13 2008, 02:50 AM

40K Club
Group Icon
Forum Admin
44,415 posts

Joined: Jan 2003




i don't recall mid september has September Fools day. smile.gif but would be nice if i can make $$$ out of RAM chips.
Hoodlums
post Sep 13 2008, 09:39 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
598 posts

Joined: Sep 2004



QUOTE(boon.fong @ Sep 9 2008, 11:55 AM)
Hi all, my rig is as below. one question, currently i am have difficulty overclock my intel e4600 to 3.0ghz (stable at 2.85ghz) on stock vcore. I am using value ram, is it holding me back? is it possible if i am changing to performance ram my rig can overclock pass 2.9-3.0ghz? thanks
*
My previos KVR DDR667 stable OC E4400 @ 3.2GHz (320MHz*10, 2:3 Ratio), RAM running @ 960MHz laugh.gif

OC4/3
post Sep 14 2008, 01:00 AM

.
Group Icon
Elite
4,746 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
From: Speed rule


QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Sep 13 2008, 02:48 AM)
failing that,

how about goldfries edition rams? world fastest ddr2 rams lol! laugh.gif
*
Someone is nuts on playing SPD sweat.gif
memkingdom
post Sep 15 2008, 07:42 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
529 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
From: +(6016)-2329987



commonly performance ram had more low CL value than value ram, so the access time will be faster than value ram. But I didn't really feel much different between them.
k!nex
post Sep 15 2008, 06:07 PM

Restless stars
*******
Senior Member
3,389 posts

Joined: Mar 2007
From: KL


QUOTE(memkingdom @ Sep 15 2008, 07:42 AM)
commonly performance ram had more low CL value than value ram, so the access time will be faster than value ram. But I didn't really feel much different between them.
*
maybe bcoz u're using Intel system which is frequency more effect compare to latency.if u're using an AMD,different story already.
CHiNO730
post Sep 15 2008, 09:53 PM

On my way
****
Senior Member
526 posts

Joined: Aug 2008


QUOTE(k!nex @ Sep 15 2008, 06:07 PM)
maybe bcoz u're using Intel system which is frequency more effect compare to latency.if u're using an AMD,different story already.
*
Can you elaborate on this?
zer0hour
post Sep 15 2008, 11:33 PM

Unlike Any Other
******
Senior Member
1,864 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
Yup I'd like to know why you say that too.
k!nex
post Sep 16 2008, 02:08 AM

Restless stars
*******
Senior Member
3,389 posts

Joined: Mar 2007
From: KL


intel chips can overclock high FSB.high FSB needs high RAM frequency to cope wif the overclock.i believe the current C2D is fast becoz of the cache .high RAM frequency and high FSB assists the cache further.but intel platform need access the NB for the memory controller.thts latency already.intel is going for higher frequency in order to overcome the weakness in latency.
AMD chips cant clock the bus speed high.but AMD memory bandwidth much higher than intel now coz of built in memory controller inside the processor itself.Intel platform memory controller is inside the chipset.low latency much benefit AMD coz data need not access the NB for the memory controller (shorter path).

this is wat i understand from articles i read across the websites. correct me if i'm wrong.my english might not be perfect.
CHiNO730
post Sep 17 2008, 12:42 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
526 posts

Joined: Aug 2008


I'm not sure I understand.

You can find low latency memory and use it on Intel boards with better results compared to higher latency chips - thus low latency also improves performance on Intel chipsets.

The memory speed is also important because it determines how fast the cycle can be completed and the information delivered.
TSboon.fong
post Sep 17 2008, 11:10 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
199 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Klang, Selangor


Hi All, currently i managed to get my proc oced to 2.88ghz (320 x9). So is there any different if i set my memory to 1:1 which is (640mhz) or as close to 800mhz as possible. In the bios i can set beyond 800mhz, if i set it will it overload my ram.

thanks
ne0cz
post Sep 17 2008, 06:09 PM

Zoom Zoom
*******
Senior Member
5,372 posts

Joined: May 2008
From: Nokia HQ


400 cannot ah boon? Why dont u up the Vcore? I not sure about E4600... I never had a C2D
zer0hour
post Sep 17 2008, 10:51 PM

Unlike Any Other
******
Senior Member
1,864 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
QUOTE(boon.fong @ Sep 17 2008, 11:10 AM)
Hi All, currently i managed to get my proc oced to 2.88ghz (320 x9). So is there any different if i set my memory to 1:1 which is (640mhz) or as close to 800mhz as possible. In the bios i can set beyond 800mhz, if i set it will it overload my ram.

thanks
*
Set your memory to as close to 800 as possible if you're going to stop at 320x9. If you're going to overclock further, leave it at 1:1 first.
TSboon.fong
post Sep 17 2008, 11:51 PM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
199 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Klang, Selangor


QUOTE(ne0cz @ Sep 17 2008, 06:09 PM)
400 cannot ah boon? Why dont u up the Vcore? I not sure about E4600... I never had a C2D
*
my vcore (bios) already set at 1.35v, vcore idle is around 1.31 and vcore load is around 1.26-1.28v. the idle temp is 40c and full load in prime 95 can go up to 66c-68c. don't dare to set the vcore higher anymore....

zer0hour
post Sep 18 2008, 12:16 AM

Unlike Any Other
******
Senior Member
1,864 posts

Joined: Jun 2008
Hmm those temps are a bit too hot for the Hyper 212. According to this chart it only loses to the CCF by 20%..so should be cooler. My QX@4.2Ghz loads at 60ish C.

I'd say reseat HSF or lapping time.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?...eid=2271&page=5

wen9x88
post Sep 20 2008, 07:11 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,933 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Kuala lumpur


is there any different if i change my 667 value ram to performance ram?
2x2GB 667 change to 4 Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz
hilmiangah
post Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM

Kongsi Gelap Elite Ramadass
Group Icon
Elite
5,602 posts

Joined: Jul 2007
From: The Holiest Of Hole


QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:11 PM)
is there any different if i change my 667 value ram to performance ram?
2x2GB 667 change to  4 Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-8500 1066MHz
*
when youre surfing and do word processing it deosnt feel any faster.
in gaming maybe.
Golden
post Sep 20 2008, 07:38 PM

Casual
***
Senior Member
499 posts

Joined: Oct 2005


Actually the difference isn't that much and hardly noticeable.

Performance RAM = marketing gimmick
wen9x88
post Sep 20 2008, 07:42 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,933 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: Kuala lumpur


QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Sep 20 2008, 07:33 PM)
when youre surfing and do word processing it deosnt feel any faster.
in gaming maybe.
*
hmm...many anot ?

7 Pages < 1 2 3 4 5 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0257sec    0.36    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 9th December 2025 - 04:40 AM