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 Valum ram vs performance ram, effect on overclocking the FSB

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post Sep 20 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Golden @ Sep 20 2008, 07:38 PM)
Actually the difference isn't that much and hardly noticeable.

Performance RAM = marketing gimmick
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performance ram doesn't mean marketing gimmick, some they really provide good chipset so that we can overclock to a better extend

QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:42 PM)
hmm...many anot ?
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normal usage such as surf net, chatting, word processing i doubt u can feel any difference
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post Sep 20 2008, 07:56 PM

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@darude87 i mean gaming.
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QUOTE(wen9x88 @ Sep 20 2008, 07:56 PM)
@darude87 i mean gaming.
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Not helping,only help in look and benchmarking

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post Sep 20 2008, 09:32 PM

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I just downgrade my rig from Crucial Balistic tracer 4gb running at DDR1066 @ 15-5-5-5.0 to Kingston value ram 8gb running at DDR960 @ 12-5-5-5.0.

Honestly i cant feel any different at all. Even my 3dmark2005/06 score not affect at all.

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michealelsie
post Sep 22 2008, 02:37 PM

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hmm, i would like to ask some help from u all here.

Currently i am running this rig:

Intel E2160 M0 rev
Gigabyte 965P DS3 rev3.3 F12
TEAM Elite DDR800 2x1GB

I tired to OC my system @ 9x400 and CPU:RAM ratio = 1:1 @ stock Vcore and Vdimm, it failed me at any timing also.

Then, i tried to lower my RAM speed to 9x350, CPU:RAM ratio remained 1:1, Vcore and Vdimm remained stock, it still failed me.

After that, I tried to increase the Vcore +0.1V and Vdimm +0.1V, it still failed me.

Then, I tried to lower my RAM speed to 9x320, CPU:RAM ratio remained 1:1, Vcore and Vdimm remained stock, finally succeed.

However, my system seems like unstable. Means within 1-2 days, my PC will auto restart itself without any sign. I had checked the temperature using Core Temp, seems like No problem (32-36C)

So, till now, i am still running my rig @ stock speed and stock Voltage.

I don't know why my CPU cant go further. Is it my CPU FSB wall hold me back? or my motherboard? If it is really the CPU FSB wall problem, should I go for BSEL mod? worth it?

Hope I can get some help here. Any help will be appreciate. Thank you.

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post Sep 22 2008, 02:40 PM

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i think u need to add more vcore.. also add some vtt for stability.. as for vdimm stock voltage is enough since its running at 800mhz only...
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Sep 22 2008, 02:40 PM)
i think u need to add more vcore.. also add some vtt for stability.. as for vdimm stock voltage is enough since its running at 800mhz only...
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i see. But is it my processor got FSB wall? coz it keep failed me after 9x320. even i lower my multiplier also cant pass 320 RAM speed.

I dont know why.
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post Sep 22 2008, 02:48 PM

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don't think its the fsb wall.. e2160 can easily run 400fsb..
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post Sep 22 2008, 02:59 PM

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think I should try to OC again. smile.gif

thanks for the suggestion ya~
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post Sep 22 2008, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(michealelsie @ Sep 22 2008, 02:37 PM)
hmm, i would like to ask some help from u all here.

Currently i am running this rig:

Intel E2160 M0 rev
Gigabyte 965P DS3 rev3.3 F12
TEAM Elite DDR800 2x1GB

I tired to OC my system @ 9x400 and CPU:RAM ratio = 1:1 @ stock Vcore and Vdimm, it failed me at any timing also.

Then, i tried to lower my RAM speed to 9x350, CPU:RAM ratio remained 1:1, Vcore and Vdimm remained stock, it still failed me.

After that, I tried to increase the Vcore +0.1V and Vdimm +0.1V, it still failed me.

Then, I tried to lower my RAM speed to 9x320, CPU:RAM ratio remained 1:1, Vcore and Vdimm remained stock, finally succeed.

However, my system seems like unstable. Means within 1-2 days, my PC will auto restart itself without any sign. I had checked the temperature using Core Temp, seems like No problem (32-36C)

So, till now, i am still running my rig @ stock speed and stock Voltage.

I don't know why my CPU cant go further. Is it my CPU FSB wall hold me back? or my motherboard? If it is really the CPU FSB wall problem, should I go for BSEL mod? worth it?

Hope I can get some help here. Any help will be appreciate. Thank you.
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You're going too fast. To ensure maximum system stability what you should do is increase FSB in 5 or 10Mhz increments at a time.
Now you probably need more Vcore like Icemocha said. Go back to 9x320 but increase Vcore by +0.1. Run IBT 10 loops to test if stable. If pass, increase FSB by 10Mhz, run IBT, repeat.
If at any time you fail IBT, increase Vcore +0.1.
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Sep 22 2008, 02:48 PM)
don't think its the fsb wall.. e2160 can easily run 400fsb..
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Not really,my E2160 is walled at 390 laugh.gif
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post Sep 22 2008, 10:39 PM

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Sometimes it can also be the motherboard, not the CPU wall. A lot of factors, you just have to find out so that's the challenge and fun biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Sep 22 2008, 11:04 PM)
I only know new revisions of Corsair Dominators DDR2 works like crap doh.gif
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Sure lah laugh.gif
1066mhz rev1.2 is good rclxm9.gif
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Would like to check, which type of ram setup is recommended: 2 x 2GB or 4 x 1GB?
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QUOTE(boon.fong @ Oct 8 2008, 12:04 PM)
Would like to check, which type of ram setup is recommended: 2 x 2GB or 4 x 1GB?
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I think 2 gb x 2 would be better compare to 4 x 1 gb
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some value ram rocks too !!! only they dont have good heat sink
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post Oct 10 2008, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(cscheat @ Oct 10 2008, 09:12 AM)
some value ram rocks too !!! only they dont have good heat sink
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well,if they have a decent chip biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2008, 02:08 AM

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early this year, im using VALUE RAM for my rig..
im using 2Gb of RAM and my PC gone hang when
using SOLIDWORKS for hours.. doh.gif

but when i change to PERFORMANCE RAM, the
PC going smoothly for SOLDWORKS... thumbup.gif

why this happen?
any one can help me for explaination? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(zim_civil @ Nov 11 2008, 02:08 AM)
early this year, im using VALUE RAM for my rig..
im using 2Gb of RAM and my PC gone hang when
using SOLIDWORKS for hours.. doh.gif

but when i change to PERFORMANCE RAM, the
PC going smoothly for SOLDWORKS... thumbup.gif

why this happen?
any one can help me for explaination?  icon_question.gif
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Could be a lot of factor.
Lack of vdimm,timing is too tight for value ram or you get bad luck and get some defective ram(Always memtest for 1st night of ram)

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