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 Valum ram vs performance ram, effect on overclocking the FSB

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TSboon.fong
post Sep 9 2008, 11:55 AM, updated 18y ago

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Hi all, my rig is as below. one question, currently i am have difficulty overclock my intel e4600 to 3.0ghz (stable at 2.85ghz) on stock vcore. I am using value ram, is it holding me back? is it possible if i am changing to performance ram my rig can overclock pass 2.9-3.0ghz? thanks
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post Sep 9 2008, 12:04 PM

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get a 1066 ram..yes..it is holding u back..get a higher clock Ram...
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post Sep 9 2008, 12:05 PM

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not your RAM issue.

the E4600 runs at 800Mhz FSB. means at 1:1 FSB to RAM ratio, it's only running the RAM at DDR2 400 speed.

your RAM has more than enough headroom.

my E2140 also 800Mhz FSB and using DDR2 667 only but can do 3.2ghz also, with the 667 running at 800. smile.gif

just make sure you have the RAM setting to 1:1 (yes, your P5K has the option) and

your processor is running 12x200 = 2.4ghz.

to reach 3ghz, you just have to run it at 12x250. with 1:1, your RAM is only operating at DDR2 500 speed, which your DDR2 800 can more than handle it. smile.gif


Added on September 9, 2008, 12:06 pm
QUOTE(serigala @ Sep 9 2008, 12:04 PM)
get a 1066 ram..yes..it is holding u back..get a higher clock Ram...


sweat.gif please explain how his DDR2 800 is holding his processor back when a the same pair of RAM also can be used by E2140 / E2160 / E2180 to go beyond 3Ghz.


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post Sep 9 2008, 12:06 PM

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Yup, do just as goldfries says...
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post Sep 9 2008, 12:10 PM

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post Sep 9 2008, 12:18 PM

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Maybe a bit out of topic here...
Can somebody sugggest me performance ram for notebook.
Where can I buy it?
Planning to upgrade asus F6V
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post Sep 9 2008, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(serigala @ Sep 9 2008, 12:10 PM)
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first you post a reply that is with wrong information.

now you post single emoticon post.

please, don't spam. and don't post if you don't know the matter.

QUOTE(Exquisite @ Sep 9 2008, 12:18 PM)
Maybe a bit out of topic here...
Can somebody sugggest me performance ram for notebook.
Where can I buy it?
Planning to upgrade asus F6V
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notebook section would be better for you but why would you want performance RAM for notebook? smile.gif
TSboon.fong
post Sep 9 2008, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 9 2008, 12:05 PM)
not your RAM issue.

the E4600 runs at 800Mhz FSB. means at 1:1 FSB to RAM ratio, it's only running the RAM at DDR2 400 speed.

your RAM has more than enough headroom.

my E2140 also 800Mhz FSB and using DDR2 667 only but can do 3.2ghz also, with the 667 running at 800. smile.gif

just make sure you have the RAM setting to 1:1 (yes, your P5K has the option) and

your processor is running 12x200 = 2.4ghz.

to reach 3ghz, you just have to run it at 12x250. with 1:1, your RAM is only operating at DDR2 500 speed, which your DDR2 800 can more than handle it. smile.gif
Hi goldfries, I had tried to set the fsb at 250x12=3.0ghz and disable the C1E option and leave the rest to default or auto. but it can get pass POST, when come to windows initialize page it will then reboot. only manage to get it stable at 2.82ghz (235x12). If not the ram problem, is it the power problem? also in the bios for my mobo the ram can set in different divider, can i set it as close to 800 mhz as possible, not 1:1.
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post Sep 9 2008, 12:31 PM

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1. not RAM issue cos at 12x235, your RAM is only running at 470, which is far from your 800 limit.

2. looks like your processor could use some vcore boost. try upping the vcore.

3. yes you can set the RAM to beyond 1:1 but i suggest you do that only after you're settled with your OCed speed.


Added on September 9, 2008, 12:32 pm4. see if you can lower your multiplier, which based on your board. i think you can. try 8x300, then 350, then 400.

and yes, vcore boost might be needed. and what i usually do is unplug the HDD from power. only plug HDD power in when i really want it to enter the OS.

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post Sep 9 2008, 12:46 PM

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try 5:8 memory ratio
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post Sep 9 2008, 01:13 PM

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what i know,e4xxx series not overclockable compared e2xxx series...
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post Sep 9 2008, 01:22 PM

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thank you all for the advises
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QUOTE(Alienwarez @ Sep 9 2008, 01:13 PM)
what i know,e4xxx series not overclockable compared e2xxx series...


yes but still can go quite far.

anyway, my E2140 died after 1 year of 100% OC brows.gif now my E7200 from 2.53 can go ~3.6 smile.gif so I'm happy.

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yep i read the review and im intrigued too get it but hoping on some extra budget 1st.
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post Sep 9 2008, 02:08 PM

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hi goldfries, do you think now is the right time to go for the C2Q, or E8xxx series?
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post Sep 9 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(boon.fong @ Sep 9 2008, 02:08 PM)
hi goldfries, do you think now is the right time to go for the C2Q, or E8xxx series?
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go for E8XXX..some proc can push untill 4ghz..
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QUOTE(boon.fong @ Sep 9 2008, 02:08 PM)
hi goldfries, do you think now is the right time to go for the C2Q, or E8xxx series?


personally if i were to play games, I go for E8xxx

if i were to do A LOT of video encoding (yes, meaning almost daily basis. huge files. not your once a while family holiday type) then yes, C2Q.

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Hi goldfries, I read your review on Window vista, thinking about upgrading myself, i am more towards gaming, do you think wise to upgrade to vista now, or should wait after sp2 come out.
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well im using vista now.
no problem on gaming whatsoever.just make sure 2gb or above ram.i run mercenaries 2,spore and bioshock on it now and no lag or framerate issue and im just using e2180 and 9800gt.
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post Sep 9 2008, 02:58 PM

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i have 4gb and vista ultimate detects as 3.25,

anyone have any idea if vista 64 detects 4gb?

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