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my betta jump out of tank and suicide...

hello all, im newbie in this hobby and i still confuse about the water pH and what tool to check the pH?

btw, i have anti-bacteria salt. but i don't know how much should i put.
please all sifus teach me the correct way to take care of it. thanks.

Anti bacterial salt?
I never heard of this before.The amount of salt you put depends on the size of the betta jar.

oh, every fish shops got sell this salt. it's blue in colour. can you give me the measure for an average jar? btw, i just bought ph tester. it said, only 6-7 pH, what does that mean? thanks..

This post has been edited by betta9: Mar 29 2009, 05:28 PM

ph 6.2~7 should be fine for fishes. less than 6 means ur water more acidic, more than 7 means alkaline. and why put salt? your fish is sick? never heard of that salt too. if its healthy just aged water/chloramine will do fine.

if its the suitable size of your tank u're asking about, i'll say the larger the better. most people like to keep betta's in a dang small jar. which is bad for the fish health/liking. nobody likes being cramped in such a small space right? even thought it's a fish, well, you will want ur pet to be happy right. its really up to u. but personally i use a 10 gallon tank. its planted and filtered.

actually, you should avoid using salt at all cost. Only use salt to quarantine and treat sick fish. if you only have 1-2 betta, a 10 gallon tank is fine.. but when you have 100s like felix, 10gallon per fish is gonna take up a lot of space! haha...

if you intend to keep betta and breed betta, you need a minimum of 1gallon jar/tank. water change is to be done at least once every week, better if twice a week.

@the_catacombs
U never close ya tank? Hahah.. Used to heard ya betta jump out from the tank eh?

@betta9
Water pH doesnt make big fluctuation for show betta as they are fine with water with pH 6.5 - 7. But if ur keeping those wild betta, then u need to keep an eyes for the water parameter.

@inv
Personally i do suggest add a little big of salt (not the cooking salt) for betta is good for them. As it helps in prevent the fish got velvet and fungus. But only for show betta, if wild betta make sure there is 0 salt added unless they are sick.

lol, yea it's bit too large for 1 betta. so i keep some shrimps alot with it. plenty of hiding place so not much fighting or eating each other cases.

nola didnt close... open air...

Both of you are wrong when you mention not using salt for betta keeping.Its either you're not really experienced or dont know much bout betta keeping so please,don give wrong advice.
Many experienced betta keepers/breeders uses some salt and have slighly acidic water when keeping their bettas.The tannic acid in ketapang leaves will make the water more acidic and its been said to calm the fish down and bettas love it.Even Atison Betta Spa has indian almond leaf extract(ketapang) where its used to add to the water in betta.And,a bigger tank doenst necessarily mean its better.

oh, but what kind of salt? can i use anti bact salt? and why the fish looks stress, or just keep quiet all the time? its don't want to eat anymore. before this i gave frozen BW. im afraid it will die if not eat anything. please help me..


btw, i already put ketapang leaf in the fish tank.

This post has been edited by betta9: Mar 30 2009, 02:12 PM

If you bought the salt from the aquarium shop then it can be used.Did you overfeed it?How many litres of water in ur betta tank?

sigh... never said a bigger tank must be better. already stated its personally i use a 10 gallon tank and its up to u to use what else. indeed ketapang leafs proves good for bettas. but if its about salt. check these out.

http://www.fishlore.com/fishforum/betta-fi...read-first.html
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28044
http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182745

above got enough guides all bout betta keeping. betta's are freshwater fishes. salt proves to kill bactiria and helpful to get a sick fish back to healty. but non use it for long term water. only use when needed.

welcome back minghan , i believe u used to have more than that(100 jars) i m now go into WILD, so already sell most of my collection to supplier.. left few pcs only

For the salt issue.. my humble opinion is only apply aquarium salt(white and blue oso can, but blue better) when the fish fall sick or when there is more than 20pcs of fish in comm tank... Salt act as a medium to increase the strength of the fish.. So, if ur fish fall sick, salt can enchance their ability to fight with gems and bacterias... So, if u constantly using salt, when the fish fall sick, there is not easy increase their strength again...

betta9, dun worry bout ur fish too much, are they newly purchase?
U shud let them calm down first... let them get use to the new enviroment first. May be, u can put some KTP or BWE for them to calm them down...

Cheers for the betta enthusiast,
Spirit aka Felix

i did not overfeed it, it just don't want to eat, i think it's sick. around 1.5-2.0 liters..

this is before



this is after



This post has been edited by betta9: Mar 30 2009, 03:03 PM

I cant really see it.I think its fins are clamped.Can you take a closer shot?
And if you're using ketapang,why isnt the water brownish?

what do u mean by "clamped"? because i just change the water.

i jz got myself a crowntail betta... actually my friend bought it but wants me to take care of it... so, ownership is not my hand although i'm taking care of it...

Bacteria nowadays are harder to kill with salt because people kept mis-using salt as a water conditioner.
Ketapang acts as a water conditioner. SALT IS NOT. Get your facts right before you shoot. thx.


yes. my sentiments exactly.


I used to have. but not anymore. no more space liao. Wilds are great, i'd move to wild if i could but no space for it at the moment.. haha... choop a few pieces of your mac juv when they breed!
btw, i think the blue salt is added with methylene blue, hence the blue tint.

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Added on March 30, 2009, 4:34 pmclamped fins = fins not opened, very close to their body.
usually happens when water parameter is not right or when it's sick.

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Added on March 30, 2009, 4:38 pmfairly troublesome to take care compared to their shorter tail brothers but a good specimen is extremely stunning. keep an eye on the water parameter, any fluctuations or bad water quality will make the ray curl and most of the time, it's 'unrepairable'.

go for 2 ray if possible or 4 ray if the price is right. anything more than 4 ray is a bit too messy to be considered show grade.

This post has been edited by inv: Mar 30 2009, 04:38 PM