Philosophically, sXe is for a betterment of oneself. Avoiding drugs, alcohol, ciggies and promiscuous sex and all is good for your health and the community. To an extent, I practice that too until now. But once the elements of 'holier that thou' sets in, that is where the 'different ideology' start to rear its ugly head... I enjoyed very much bands during that era like Disaster Funhouse, Projekt A.K., Another Side, N.E.T. and of course Chronic Mass.

Wonder what happened to Mai (Out Of Step zine). Last time I heard he started a blog named something like 'Sehari Di Neraka' or something...

It's not like that. Nowadays, to have an album (or entire discography) of your favourite band is just a few computer clicks away and the waiting time is probably less than 2 hours. If you're not sure, you could always check the Youtube for a glimpse of what would the band sounds like and googled up details with regards to that particular band. If you like what you're listening, just proceed with the preceding step I mentioned just now.

Back in the days, or at least in 88 (when I start listening to metal by purchasing Maiden's Killers album), you don't have the facilities enjoyed by new generation of metal fans nowadays. You need to really put an effort to get the tape of your favourite band by going to the nearest music store. Depending on where you live, time taken to get your favourite band's album would take from an hour to few hours. In my case, the towkey will allow you to take an extra tape for you to 'test' a.k.a. the Youtube thingie we now enjoyed . Other than that, it's tape trading and fanzine's recommendation/review or by words of mouth. If you really like the band, you'll support them by attending their gigs. Being a metal fans (especially black metal) will cost you loads of time and moolah.

That is what the 'veterans' issue against the new generation. They think that the new generation haven't put enough effort in supporting the music that we all love. For a successful mainstream band, downloading and streaming is OK. But what happened to the underground/independent bands? They practically bled and sweat for the community but what are they getting? One would argue that the illegal downloading and unauthorized streaming over the net will expand the band's fanbase but without monetary support, the band would eventually becomes discouraged. It will eventually destroy the community. Slowly but surely.

I had a long discussion on this matter with Campbell Music towkey a.k.a. Auntie. The business is experiencing a meltdown as we speak and she and all music store owners are seeing a bleak future up ahead. People are downloading music indiscriminately and if this thing continue, there'll be no recording artist except for rich fools who share their masterpiece for free...

What i mostly against was when a metal newcomer come to me and said he got a lot of stuff (rubbish mp3) and talking like shit and told about metal story that i've already know long time ago in front of me with egoist attitude .. fukkk the head off.. with just mp3 that you can easily get from the internet, nothing to prove that you're pure metaller and to proud off with that. Craphead really... i don't mind if you wanna download or something else but don't need to talk like he was a pro of black metal. hahahahahha... he didn't know me either... What's i'm most shocked about he talking like rubbish like a pro black metaller.. hahahahah... funny enough for me... want to teach me some more... he didn't know anyone from the metal scene and just wearing a 'baju local of metal' what's great deal about that??? a pasar malam type of band tshirt?? lol...., lol... It really happen if you guys wanna know.. i told this story to some of my old friend and they laugh as hell. When we meet this kid at the gigs we laugh in from of him and laugh until he was leaving and didn't dare to meet me again..

It's not because that i'm arrogant.. I just hate a newbie acting like shithead to tell something that i already know in long time ago with egoist attitude. Nothing to show off in front of me... I was more extreme if you guys meet me back in more a decade ago. With a leather jacket, original band t-shirt and pendant with long hair. A jacket with a back patches of Bathory (goat), on the right side of jacket there's sweden flag.. hahahahahhahaha.... dark funeral patches. On the left there's darkthrone and the true mayhem.. and with boot too. I hang out at Central Market area, Ramzan Restaurant and kedai Jaie (Nebiula Metal shop) with Dark-E voci and Ami... with a lot of metal band around KL too. Nobody dare to disturb us that time.. lol... Now only brother Naim the taiko left in the CM area...

I think maybe some of you have met me back in the past but didn't know me because of this nick, lol...... it's because i got noticed someone from this forum said he's met me once in the nebiula metal shop.. lol...

Please, if you support METAL with your full heart and love your favourite metal band except for the rare demos, rehearsal, other type of recording etc.. just buy their stuff if it's still available. Don't depends on the Internet as your source on this music. You will let the metal scene let down if you do that... We need to strive... The only thing to show your TRUE effort is by buy the music not downloading them except for certain excuses.

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Added on May 2, 2010, 2:17 amyes it's a good ideology with sXe on that part but i'm against it since I'm a smoker.. and i'm a Metaller didn't need to care about that part much too.. Some of sXe guys were hypocrites, because they marked down their hand with 'X' symbol on the gig, but then when they go outside, they will smoke and hide the hand as well.. hahahahahhahahahhahahahaha..... But some of these people mislead the meaning of sXe because they're mixed with Veganism. Don't eat beef and only support vegetarian bla bla bla... it's seem like more hypocrites about that... I'm not a big fan of hardcore ideology but i know some of it because i read their info too on the zine, discussion with hardcore friend etc..., more importantly it's because i'm a metaller so there will be a bit wrongly on my expression..

I love N.E.T. the old school JBHC... hahahahahah. I don't remember where i put their cassette already.

N.E.T is an old band of wak joi, skang ada bengkel skuter.. main skuter je.. huhuhuuhuhuhuh...

Where's Joe of Disaster Funhouse? last time he stayed with my friend at Old klang road then go back to ipoh. Joe really crazy, play skateboard inside of his house... hahahahahahhahaha.....

This post has been edited by kInOzAwA: May 2 2010, 02:36 AM

just got back from Search and Wings awesome gig...and I understand that without the awesomeness of these two bands (and a few rock bands from that era) - most of us from the early days wouldn't have turned into rock music in the first place... and without rock - there wouldn't be any heavy metal in the first place.

So yeah - let's forget about all these subgenres and local underground history for a while, and give our tribute to the two legendary bands of M'sia - Search and Wings. Rock uuuu!

Search really imitated some iron maiden / loudness guitar riffing & drum... hahahahahahha

Most of Malaysian mainstream rock band imitating Iron Maiden, Metallica and Guns N Roses, musically and personally. Sad but True. THe only thing i don't like is the lyric. Always talk about endless love, women, jiwang2... where's the aggression?

How about Sil Khanaz? They dont imitate metallica. If u know what kind of band is Sil Khanaz.. Malaysian metal.. dunno consider black metal or death metal

and iron maiden imitated elvis presley's rock and roll riffs

not really.. if you listen carefully to elvis presley there's none of their riff were imitated by Iron Maiden which is fast and full of running chord in guitar and bass....

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Added on May 2, 2010, 2:51 pmHave you listen to Rotting Christ, Death, Kreator and Sodom? Sil Khannaz were influenced by these band anyway... Sil Khannaz play Death Metal as well. You can heard that jaie's vocal sound like a traditional death metal band and the sound were a mixed in between death thrash of Sodom, death metal and black death metal style of Rotting Christ

This post has been edited by kInOzAwA: May 2 2010, 02:51 PM

ya i listen to rotting christ khronos album.. after that din really follow them already cuz maybe bored of that genre..sodom is not power metal or something like dat?

how about scorpions? i still remember one of Search's song made by scorpions

Sodom never play power metal. It's described as death thrash metal on its genre. Power metal is something like these band... blind guardian, manowar, stratovarius, luca turilli, angra, dragon force, gamma ray, helloween to name a few....

scorpions is old skool rock imho

kinozawa have phd in metal? u seem to know a lot? where u from? maybe we can hook up for a lecture regarding metal

phd? lol.. u must be kidding.. haha.. once if you got a passion on what you're doing, you'll devote most of your life onto that. It's my fave hobby... a full time metaller in the past.... haha.. digging all the metal genres and listening to thousand of metal records too..

my hometown is kuala terengganu, but i lived in klang valley. still i'm a malaysian

[quote=kInOzAwA,May 2 2010, 02:46 PM]
not really.. if you listen carefully to elvis presley there's none of their riff were imitated by Iron Maiden which is fast and full of running chord in guitar and bass....

just pulling yer leg bro... but whatever it is - for Msian rock - even the otai metalhead have deep respect for Search and Wings. If I'm not mistaken there was a tribute album on these bands' songs some time back. There's not denial how much impact these local rock demigods have over most local rock and metal bands - jiwang or not...

but yeah...metal, rock, whatever - they're still rooted to rock and roll babeh!

the gig yesterday finish at what time uh? i called up my friend, at 10:30pm, they're still not finish yet.. lol...

i think it ended almost at 11:00pm, i going back when Punisher played around 10:45p.m, anyway, Metalasia is superb...good riffing & solos...Jasad from Indonesia is also great, Brutal Death Metal at its best...

album baru burzum macam lazat juga

Last night was awesome. Eventhough it was hot, but it's worth it.

i just layan first 4 band then go home start late got football summore however purgatory vocalist

Bullet for my valentine new album Fever is the best screamo metal album since Sonic Syndicate's Love & Disaster album... Bittersweet Memories song beat Trivium's "This World Can't Tear Us Apart" anytime. However I still prefer Sonic Syndicate's My Escape /Contradiction.