War over already? Damn. Anyway, all wide angle will distort in a way or another. It's just that the Sigma distortion is so much that's it's almost fisheye. It's a love hate relationship. It's great for landscape but don't ler use it to shoot people. If you use any wide angle to shoot group photo the people at the edge will look phat. It's just the characteristic of an UWA lens. You can only fix it in Photoshop. If you're getting the Tokky it's fine but no need to kutuk Sigma blindly.

Here let me help you puke some more.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/sigma10-20/pool/

use the distortion wisely.. it can create a great effect..

I used to have the Sigma 10-20mm. I can like/dislike the distortion. But it's just not sharp even if you use small apertures.

I am not judging the sharpness if I zoom in close to the photo. But by just fitting it onto my 15.4" laptop, it just looks not sharp.

Now that I replaced it with a Tokina 12-24mm, I have no regrets.

Well... maybe one... I want Tokina's 11-16mm f/2.8!

Meh you are better off with the 10.5mm fisheye

This 10.5mm seriously is a freaking awesome lens. very sharp even at f/2.8

Haha well he said he liked the distortion and I feel that if you want to distort, you go all the way

yerr... i never like fish eye
but then again, i never like wide angle.

that's just me.
the normal lens (50mm) or slightly longer (70mm) works best for me.

I, too never like fish eye at first. But, that day friend bought. Play within 1 hour then it's in my list of getting

I... never had a love/hate relationship with the fisheye. It was love all the way

hard to take group photo with 50mm

there are specific kind of lense for for specific kind of shots..how many type of lens r they actually?

true also lah.
but i dont do group photos

There's some serious UWA poison going on in the 10-20 flickr pool...

The love hate relationship for UWA and fish-eye is a good description. Some hate it, others love it. I hate it only 10% of the time

Unfortunately, I also wish the Sigma would be sharper. It's quite cumbersome to sharpen my wide angle shots. But they're passable for me (trying to justify owning the lens here teehee), again some might want sharper lenses.

Would love to get the fisheye as well, but the wallet is still reeling. Perhaps in the future.

Shinchan, what do you use to shoot girls?

eh? there are standard zoom, telephoto, macro, ultra wide-angle, fisheye, portrait. ada lagi kah?

Ah... quite difficult to answer.

If we are talking about range & ssuming APS-C sensor:
<10.5mm - usually fisheye
10-16 - usually ultra-wide angle
16-70 - the standard zoom
>70 - telephoto (some might categorize >200mm as super telephoto, but I just bundle everything in)

macro lenses can fall between 55-150mm (macro lenses are usually characterized by their extreme close focusing distance and also magnification instead of range, hence the diverse coverage)
portraits are usually >70mm (but some use the 10-20 & fisheye for unique, weird shots)
landscape lenses usually fall into the fisheye & UWA group (but some use a long zoom to pick out details or isolate certain landscape features)
walkaround lenses usually the standard zoom (but some folks use UWA lenses too)

Remember, only valid for APS-C. Full-frame cameras have different range (e.g. 17mm is considered UWA already).

This post has been edited by ebernie: Sep 24 2008, 11:08 AM

http://www.nikon.com.my/products.php?categoryid=18

what r these lens for?

fisheye?
ultra wide?
standard zoom?
telefoto?
makro?

erk..ada lagi ka?

oh ya....ada tak lens yg gabungkan zoom dan wide lens skali?erm..is tis a dumb question? sorry..still learning

This post has been edited by zsuperc: Sep 24 2008, 11:39 AM

that will be ur all purpose lens. 18-200mm usually

hmm..how much will tat cost? new n used

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Added on September 24, 2008, 12:07 pmerm..wat r the difference between the Nikkor DX lenses compared to other Nikkor lenses?

This post has been edited by zsuperc: Sep 24 2008, 12:07 PM

fisheyeeee although i love it but i think it's way out of my budget. even the sigma, i won't be able to get it until probably by the end of this year. that and skyports. after that, wait half a year before splurging again on my expensive hobby. hehehe!!