If you don't have enough budget, I would suggest you put up plaster ceiling first (to cover the beam), then buy affordable short piped fan like KDK Baby first, and upgrade later when you saved enough. It is easier to change fan than to change your ceiling

Btw, what would be the ceiling height if you cover the beam? One of my bedroom is with 9' high ceiling, and Alpha Alkova Dezi looks fine in it. Doesn't look too low to me.

Alpha alkova is still within my budget. For the other two rooms might buy alpha cosa (small so will have disco effect too of use long diameter fan). For mbr, im aiming for the sensa4 (im not aicond person so need a good fan to sleep)

Ceiling height for hall is 10’. The pink beam i think less than 1’. The green one is more than 1’. I just want to match the pink beam only, cannot have lower than 9’, my hall already so small, if lower, will look smaller

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/nsb-n-de...1769476662.html NSB around 399. Actually the thing is at one point in the 90s having fan with lights was a trend. Nowadays that trend evolved to "dont' want lights on the fan". The light will be static (as it is mounted on the center core). Even your normal remote type ceiling fan w/o lights, the core ("dinner plate" is also static). Note: for regulator fan the core is NOT static.

It should work..
Actually it sounds like my parents' place.. we have downlight located near the fan but the fan space is recessed in its own 60" circle recess that is few inches taller (from the floor) as compared to the general height of the plaster ceiling for the lights (from the floor) so the blades and the lights' height difference will not cause disco effect.
The horizontal distance is I would say just a foot.



Yah the windless bayu 4 is total regret. Any other ceiling fan can make more wind.
Its certainly not my room size problem as I've installed it (and uninstalled) at living room/medium bedroom/small room. Tired of climbing up and down already.

In my parents' place the prev owner made a n-shaped wooden accent (along both walls and across the beam) for the beam and put in a couple small lights where the beam is.

Yeah baby fan KDK is built for low ceiling. But mounting is a plate so the plaster ceiling peeps need to ensure there is a support for it (preferably independent from the plaster ceiling board), as it doesn't come with typical U hook mounting unlike the Alpha 42" fans. Pretty doable, the core feature of support needed is hanging from the concrete floor slab to support the weight of the fan which require 4 bolts into the plate (or wooden frame).

Sorry, do u have picture that i can refer too? Too noob to imagine it..sorry tho..i lost it when i read the across the beam 😅😅😅

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Uh pls excuse the pumpkin farm..the place is bit messy at the moment

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Oh looks nice. But atm budget finish already. Next 2 years only can re-decorate the house. Now can do basic things only. 🥲 tq for ur suggestion bos!

Curious question to ask all sifu here.
From the drawings below, it is advisable to buy 56" or 60" fan if I want to install the fan at the center of the hall. about at the area on top of my dining table.

So that I can get wind too at my sofa and fridge area too.

https://www.delmarfans.com/educate/basics/w...need/#sizeguide
Uhhh.. one problem..1 fan cannot cover all because the blade has focus area (something like light beam angle) unless its those huge ones in Setiawalk or MRT station. Not so practical
Between 56 and 60in.. form vs function
because whilst the 60in regulator price to performance is very good, it doesn't look so nice.

Remote fan.. if you can fit in 60" in the wind is generally better vs 56" due to longer blade
Comparing between sensa 5 (60") is 8652 cfm vs sense 4 is 7946 cfm. About 9% more airflow.

Ideally you can go with 2x 56" or 60" fans to cover the sofa/TV and dining table space respectively
and if you're concerned about kitchen heat buildup, use exhaust fan at the window and panel up the window with clear plastic sheet so the exhaust fan work beautifully.

https://www.kdk.com.my/tips-guide/ceiling-f...election-guide/
for this basically don't put them too close together

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Thanks for the knowledge sis.
i consulted my plaster ceiling contractor.
he said that if I choose to go for 56 and place it on top of the sofa area and the dining table area, the downlight might kena the fan blade and might have light strobbing disco effect.

Any tips from sifu on what should I do?

It depends on the light beam angle. In 1995 they were using narrow beam downlight (bulb type), as long as the bulb doesn't stick out (short enough) it won't glare.

In our case per my pic, I would say the distance from fan blade sweep to the four main downlight holes areabout 40cm edge to edge, and there is a circular recess to shorten the relative distance from (ceiling height where the downlights are located) vs (fan blade distance from ceiling where lights are located).. in a way giving the same result as fans with very short rod. Don't have disco effect.

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Thanks for the suggestion, will look into it. Yes, it’s 90s style but no choice because space constraint.

Elmark Bee 36” or Elmark Swift Baby 46” ok?

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Another way to do it is to let the fan remain at the slab and do cove box up along the perimeter of the wall. That way you light will be positioned lower relative to the fan itself. With proper planning of the light position, you could probably use a bigger fan.

And your living hall isn’t exactly that small. From the plan i think is should be around 22-23’ length. With proper luminance & and light wall colour, the hall would still look big even with lower ceiling. Try measure the exact floor to beam height. I think 8’ 10” should still be okay (assuming your beam is 14” like mine).

I think every home owner should have at least told the plaster ceiling contractor beforehand what do they want to hang on the ceiling including fan, pendant light, and also curtain so that the contractor can install proper plate or timber strip attached to the slab to support the weight. I did plan everything for my house but still I forgot to plan for my ceiling to floor curtain. End up need to attach the curtain railing to the wall.

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Your hall width is only 122”. If you follow the manufacturer’s guide of having 3’ gap from tip of the blade to the wall, you will end up with 50” available space for ceiling fan. If you plan to go bigger then recommended, then I think 56” should be the max already.

And better to have 2 smaller fans, one in living area and one for dining area. Otherwise you would have nightmare planning for the downlight positioning.

wow. thanks for this picture.
From your picture, I also tot that it will have disco effect.
You are right as light bulb have light beam angle. i will need to choose the bulb with the light angle.
Will discuss more regarding this issue with my plaster ceiling contractor and light bulb supplier.
thanks sis.

Guys, any comment for Elmark Bee 36” or Elmark Swift Baby 46”?

Hi everyone, I need help deciding to buy regular-sized or baby-sized fan for this room. The green circles are where I plan to put downlight (6"). I don't want to get disco effect when I put the ceiling fan in the middle. Please advise.

Should be ok, ABS blade will have sufficient wind. Bigger 46in if space fits. Smaller one may need to run speed 3 or 4 to match air delivery of bigger one at speed 2.

Downlight beam angle also can affect the tendency of disco effect.

https://www.downlightsdirect.co.uk/advice/d...ngle-to-choose/

You can put regular 56in fan but choose downlight with narrower beam angle.. some of the value/cheaper ones are 110 deg wide beam

This might give you a better idea of what LED downlights are available with narrower beam angle:
https://docs.rs-online.com/5a29/0900766b816ee2dd.pdf

May need to look for swiveling spot light /adjustable downlight to point the beam away from the fan blade.
Alternatively pendant/wall lights will eliminate this disco effect.

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Got it! Thanks for your help as usual.