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post Feb 22 2021, 01:54 AM

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It’s my first house hence I have no experience in finding for the right ceiling fans. My ceiling is low as it’s an apartment. I’m thinking of Panasonic Bayu 3 or 4. I don’t need super fancy looking but so long it looks fine with a Muji theme house then I’m OK, prefer matte colour though. Based on my Google finding, lesser blades gives stronger wind but is noisier than the ones with more blades. Is this true? I will have aircond installed as well, so not sure if I will need super strong wind? The reason I thought of Panasonic is because of the branding and of course KDK is a reliable household brand but the cheaper ones don’t look good and the more expensive ones are beyond my budget. laugh.gif Energy saving model or not, may not be important but good to have.

Is Panasonic a good choice? Initially thought of Deka but after reading bad experience from fellow forummers, I decided against this idea. Thanks in advance. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2021, 04:34 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 22 2021, 03:21 AM)
Do not be fooled by the branding.
In 2014, I bought a 2014 Bayu 4. This is OK until today.

After some years and a certain factory initiate extreme cost cutting..
*I've a 2018 Pana windless wonder Bayu 4. It is the biggest regret buying it (I got it from top ten Puchong).
Installed 2019 due to only VP in 2019. Had no idea it was such a lemon. Out of warranty.

Initially installed in living room. Windless. Took down.
Installed in bedroom. Windless. Took down.
Installed in smallest room. Windless also. Gave up uninstalling and installing it.
Anyone want to buy this Bayoo 4 windless wonder? I sell 40% off full set including box and receipt and all the screws (40% off from whatever shopee/lazada electrical store/dealer price). Hardly used (total runtime probably less than 5 weeks in its lifespan) laugh.gif

Windless=set to max speed can't even blow a tissue off the table.
No other fan is so windless (even those 3 blade regulator ones are much better).
Suspect the blade design is wrong from the factory but too poor to launch an investigation or class action lawsuit  laugh.gif

The 10-20 bucks of savings from the KDK equivalent (300 dollar 4 blade remote fan) is NOT worth saving.
Once gotten a lemon Bayoo 4 it is hard to dispose off.

KDK (especially the higher ranges Vtouch Jr/Sensa 4) thumbup.gif
Bayoo 4  shakehead.gif TBH, much as we have complains about deka, our old deka (soon to be scrapped because of bearing noise after at least 12 years old) produces more wind anytime than the Bayoo 4.

*since then, every single fan is KDK and never failed to blow tissues all around the place.
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Thanks for the reply but KDK fans are expensive and out of my budget. sad.gif
I can get around RM 275 for Bayu 4 but KDK ones are more than RM 400. If I were to get one unit only I will close both eyes and get KDK but I’m getting four units so it’s really not easy to convince myself. cry.gif
I appreciate your feedback on Bayu 4 and I guess I will need to find for other options then. Any other recommended brands for restricted budget? laugh.gif

Wait, how about KDK K14XZ PBR? I found on Shopee though.

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post Feb 22 2021, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Feb 22 2021, 10:54 AM)
If u have budget constraint, then how about the old school regulator type? Instead of remote. They're much cheaper and durable

https://shopee.com.my/product/155109231/492...17-1613962444.9
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laugh.gif Not to the extent of regulator la. It just doesn't match any modern house theme. laugh.gif
I will most likely go for KDK K14XZ PBR.

I have calculated my budget and it is still within my acceptable range. I don't think I will spend anything above RM 400-500 for a ceiling fan since I have airconds as well. laugh.gif
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post Feb 22 2021, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Feb 22 2021, 01:29 PM)
Why not Alpha? You have plenty of choices to choose from with your budget and they come with good looking design.
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My first time hearing this brand though I saw them on online shopping platforms.
Is it a reliable brand with good after sales service? I'm looking at around RM 300. tongue.gif

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 22 2021, 01:56 PM)
KDK K14XZ PBR will work fine for a sub 300 bucks range (remote fan).
Next step is Vtouch Jr (405 bucks for the yuragi and ABS blade).

Although, price-performance value (if in store room or guest room that hardly used) that 60" regulator (due to the 60") has very good "cfm per dollar".  tongue.gif
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laugh.gif Regulator is always a good option for cfm per dollar. laugh.gif
OK, I will put this KDK as my first choice while checking out Alpha models.
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post Feb 22 2021, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Feb 22 2021, 02:26 PM)
They don't have the long history of KDK or Panasonic, but pretty established local brand with presence over 20 years++ in Malaysia.

Reliability wise, you have to ask around since every people have different story, but after sales service should be good since they are Malaysian based company. I was convinced to buy Alpha due to my sister's experience using Alpha in her house for the past 10 years. So far no major problem and the fans still running fine even though some of the parts has been replaced over the time. With proper care (like my sister & brother in law did), the fan still looks like brand new after 10 years, not even color faded. But then hers was glossy black colour, not white as white might become yellowish after some time.
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Noted, I will check it out and compare the pricing and hopefully some other reviews online.
But 10 years that's pretty good actually.
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post Feb 24 2021, 11:22 AM

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I have checked out Alpha fans after blanket84 recommended and I wanna get Alpha Cosa Xpress since it fits into my budget. Is it OK?
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post Feb 24 2021, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 24 2021, 02:32 PM)
ABS blades, OK good to go.
Alpha fan OK.
D*** fan not so.  devil.gif
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Alright, that's it. Made up my mind for Alpha. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 1 2021, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 1 2021, 12:12 PM)
If space permitting, don't put the downlight holes so close to the fan blade zone, then there will be no disco effect.
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LED fan is a solution when (only one combined light/fan point) or space not permitting. However w.r.t replacement of the light bulb..
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Do you have any suggestion for around RM 300 for small or baby LED fan? I went over to collect my keys over the weekend, checked out my smallest room, space is an issue. So I wanna use LED fan instead. It should be stagnant right? So shouldn't make me dizzy? Any thought on this?
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post Mar 2 2021, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 1 2021, 08:42 PM)
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/nsb-n-de...1769476662.html NSB around 399. Actually the thing is at one point in the 90s having fan with lights was a trend. Nowadays that trend evolved to "dont' want lights on the fan". The light will be static (as it is mounted on the center core). Even your normal remote type ceiling fan w/o lights, the core ("dinner plate" is also static). Note: for regulator fan the core is NOT static.
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Thanks for the suggestion, will look into it. Yes, it’s 90s style but no choice because space constraint.

Elmark Bee 36” or Elmark Swift Baby 46” ok?

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post Mar 2 2021, 11:42 AM

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Guys, any comment for Elmark Bee 36” or Elmark Swift Baby 46”?
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post Mar 2 2021, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 2 2021, 03:55 PM)
Should be ok, ABS blade will have sufficient wind. Bigger 46in if space fits. Smaller one may need to run speed 3 or 4 to match air delivery of bigger one at speed 2.
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post Mar 5 2021, 02:43 AM

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ceo684, I’m back again. blush.gif

My house is quite small and I’m thinking to go for Elmark 52” instead of Alpha Cosa 54”. Two inches for fans makes any big difference?

I’m attracted to KL101’s minimalist design and also the smallest room will be using Elmark Atom 42”. (I managed to plan for lighting so won’t be getting LED fan laugh.gif)

How are they compared to Alpha? Quality?

By the way, is there any 50” remote control fan? laugh.gif

If anybody has comment, also feel free to chip in your thoughts and suggestions. notworthy.gif
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post Mar 5 2021, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 5 2021, 01:26 PM)
hi fruitie wave.gif

Should not be a significant difference between 52 and 54.
However for this particular model Spitfire 246 aka KL101 there are a few things to note:
1. It is exceptionally heavy at 13.4kg (typical fans ard 7-8kg).
2. No spec sheet or mention about KL101/KL / Spitfire 246 on the FB.
3. Reviews -ve

https://shopee.com.my/ELMARK-KL101-SPITFIRE...8211.6416470520
4. In the past there were 17 models recalled in SG https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/17-e...-problems-found so now you will see a SG model list and a Malaysian model list in the website. They list a lot of other model but their site seems to "forgot" about this model?
5. No spec w.r.t airflow/air delivery (cfm)  rclxub.gif

Alpha Cosa 54” 80W motor 8500cfm [attachmentid=10804076]
Elmark KL101 68W motor N/A cfm

Hence IMO Alpha better (hardly see any recall or -ve).

As for 50in - there is such thing @ NSB Aeratron 3  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Wow, thanks for sharing the information! I didn't know so heavy and looks like a terrible brand. I will avoid by all costs, but I cannot deny it really looks good for minimalist design. blush.gif
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post Mar 12 2021, 02:59 PM

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ceo684, this is to inform you I have bought four units of Alpha Cosa 54" and one Alpha Cosa 40". laugh.gif Hope all goes well. Also thanks to others for all your suggestions, especially to blanket84 for suggesting Alpha. rclxms.gif
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post Mar 12 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(ogiveyakuza @ Mar 12 2021, 03:01 PM)
What is the energy rating for those fan? Like you, I'm also searching for fan for my first house.

Quite afraid to get the fan with remote type. Afraid if it is not last longer compared to regulator type.
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5 stars energy rating. smile.gif

I think it is pretty durable these days, almost everyone that I know uses remote type. Regulator type is too troublesome. blush.gif Moreover, it doesn't match my house theme. blush.gif
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post Mar 12 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 12 2021, 03:54 PM)
I think Alpha Cosa is a good choice. I did consider Alpha Cosa too last time. But because I malas, I would prefer 3 blades than 5 blades for easier cleaning chores. 2 extra blades per fan, that would be 12 extra blades to clean sweat.gif
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Yeah, quite affordable too. Fits into my budget perfectly and it is ABS. blush.gif

QUOTE(ogiveyakuza @ Mar 12 2021, 04:32 PM)
the service apartment that I'm staying right now using Alpha Fan and looks ok.

Now undecided to go with KDK K14Z or Alpha Cosa after ready this thread and all the comments in here
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KDK was also one of my choices, I was deciding between KDK or Alpha Cosa and since I can save a bit if I choose Alpha Cosa, then why not? Moreover my fans will just complement airconds, so I just want an affordable yet durable model.
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post Mar 15 2021, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Mar 13 2021, 01:37 AM)
Should be a great choice smile.gif so far have a couple of friends using their fans, no complains biggrin.gif
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Glad to hear this. Seller already shipped out my 54" fans but not the 40" fan which I bought from another seller. blush.gif
Can't wait to have them installed, I like the matte black. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ May 10 2021, 05:42 PM)
Hi, I'm currently considering this model as well, Alpha Cosa Xpress 54". May I know what is your review of the fan so far? Noise ok and wind good enough?

And also, does anyone know why Cosa series is quite similar to some of the model in Alpha Fan series? Not entirely same but the design is quite similar. Looks like Alpha Fan series have slightly more features like higher no. of speed settings, but not that commonly sold in Shopee as to compared to Cosa series.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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My contractor just helped me to install on last Friday so I don't know yet. Maybe I ask him tomorrow after he goes to my house again.

So far he said these fans look good but one thing even if I have 4 similar fans, their remote control cannot be interchangeable, one RC to one fan only.
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QUOTE(idkihavenoidealol @ May 10 2021, 05:42 PM)
Hi, I'm currently considering this model as well, Alpha Cosa Xpress 54". May I know what is your review of the fan so far? Noise ok and wind good enough?

And also, does anyone know why Cosa series is quite similar to some of the model in Alpha Fan series? Not entirely same but the design is quite similar. Looks like Alpha Fan series have slightly more features like higher no. of speed settings, but not that commonly sold in Shopee as to compared to Cosa series.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I checked with my contractor again and he said the wind is quite strong and no noise at all. He said don't install the cover until touching the ceiling then it won't have noise.
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post Sep 2 2023, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Mar 12 2021, 02:59 PM)
ceo684, this is to inform you I have bought four units of Alpha Cosa 54" and one Alpha Cosa 40". laugh.gif Hope all goes well. Also thanks to others for all your suggestions, especially to blanket84 for suggesting Alpha. rclxms.gif
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I'm back again... Honestly, I only started actively using the fans since I moved into the house mid-last year... Half a year later, one of the 54" fans started slowing down only speed 3 and 4 worked, now only speed 4 works. Then, slowly two more 54" fans also failed. Only one left standing because it is in the guest room and I hardly have any guests staying overnight.

40" one is still OK...

Now what should I do with it? I contacted the CS and the replacement unit and service charges are crazy. Any other options besides changing new fans? Totally regret buying Cosa fans and will not suggest anyone to buy them anymore.

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