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DIY T-Amp user/diyer come here :), TA2024 complete build board diy

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post Sep 24 2008, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 24 2008, 07:34 PM)
bro,
Maybe you're right; there is no C21 on our board just like other parts purposely omitted at its design stage.
I will go home and look at my T-amp but since sifu already said no, I doubt I could find it.
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I am not sifu lah bro...we all learn an share here smile.gif
I feel that those caps in pF range might not have big impact on SQ?
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post Sep 24 2008, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 24 2008, 08:06 PM)
The term 'sifu' is widely used and not meant to belittle anyone but referring to folks who have more intimate knowledge than others on the subject matter; at least that is my own interpretation.  tongue.gif

I thought so too during the ordering stage and reason why I have omitted them earlier.

Those capacitors in pF range are actually used for filtering on our T-amp board but their actual measurement do not comform to specification stated, moreover since I have almost all the discreet components, I might as well buy six more pieces which should cost me less than RM10 to have a T-amp with full discreet components.

Just toying with the idea, reason why I added a proviso of ... if I don't damage the board prematurely to be on realistic side.
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haha then I am a real sifu in de-solder components but not putting it back in tongue.gif

Well, I am trying out different types of cap use in stage 2, too bad my ears not as good as yours or else I will write a proper "test reports" wink.gif

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post Sep 25 2008, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 25 2008, 01:05 AM)
haha bro, i was joking, but im taking th mundurf off...

i tried without the input cap, when i 1st on the thing there is no sound shocking.gif  luckily it is bcos i didnt plug in the RCA  rclxm9.gif

without input cap =
1: loud!!! it is louder, duno whether it is bcos the mundurf takes lots of power tho...
2: dynamic and bass, now those drum from japan are sounding really nice!
3: details! easily heard
4: air! it sounded spacious icon_idea.gif
5: abit harsh now and brighter, mayb mundurf did a great job at making smooth..

guys my op-amp sitll fine thumbup.gif gona do the tweeter amp as well....and put in proper 20k resistor....but now with the caps taken away, the frequency cut off thing is not applicable anymore?
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xtorm, got big noise/pop or thumb-up when you powering it up without the input caps?
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post Sep 25 2008, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 25 2008, 09:32 AM)
So, the input caps is purely a DC blocking cap function?
BTW xtorm, can you check the DC voltage at the input? I did.. you'd be surprised..  ohmy.gif
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I think T-amp is bias >2V at input right?
Not sure can we able to add in a VR to adjust it near to 0V?

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post Sep 25 2008, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Sep 25 2008, 08:22 PM)
guys scrap the idea of removing input cap for now, i just try with 20k resistor there is distortion, with 12k there is none, but in both situation the speaker is being push out! even during idle. sorry didnt notice tht previously....but yesterday i play it loud for 30 minutes without issue tho...

i just burn 1 of my mids with 20k resistor cry.gif .... should i move to lower resistor value and try again? hmm..... sweat.gif

yes ongbs there is the 'tub' noise when i on the amplifier, at the same time as the mid being push out...gona get another mid tomolo....so sad. cry.gif
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aiya bro...sorry to hear that sad.gif

Today morning (4am?) read your post and asked you this:
"xtorm, got big noise/pop or thumb-up when you powering it up without the input caps?"

you didn't see my post?
If speaker cone continuous push up/down that mean got DC current, must be careful.....
I think continuously play might not burn the speaker as music signal may offset the DC current, unless the DC current very high then you might hear some abnormal sound compare to normal music? hmm.gif

If left idle that will cause problem if DC current too high as the speaker coils been heated up!

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post Sep 26 2008, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(wui223 @ Sep 26 2008, 12:51 AM)
my PSU is a simple hit-n-go solution:
Transformer 12-0-12V 1A rating, LM7805, 100uF, 10uF, 1N4007 x 2

That's all. Basically a simple regulated 12VDC power supply circuit with a full wave rectification. I don't have digital camera so abit hard to take pictures for sharing.
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1A is OK as long as you add in extra power caps, min >4700uF.


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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 26 2008, 02:38 AM)
No idea. Got them from Jalan Pasar at RM1.50 each!  brows.gif
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bro, your gold color Elna 2.2uF got "Elna" printed on it ah?
Can see many mix brands with this color/design....

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post Sep 26 2008, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 26 2008, 07:27 PM)
who are you looking for, xtorm? tongue.gif
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lui bao lah tongue.gif

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post Sep 26 2008, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Sep 26 2008, 08:07 PM)
FAKE Elna!..but usable lah!.
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How you know it is fake bro?
That is why I curious as Elna hardly produce gold color right?


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post Sep 27 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(xianyao @ Sep 27 2008, 01:53 PM)
Hello all, juz wanna ask is the T-Amp only suitable for driving speaker?
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yes, you plan to use for headphone?
T-amp is not suitable for headphone smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2008, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(wui223 @ Sep 27 2008, 03:29 PM)
bro, u buy the F-Elna from which shop?
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i think next to Mayer, shop name is Vincent.

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post Sep 27 2008, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(mysghooi @ Sep 27 2008, 04:12 PM)
Oh, I get from this shop call calor in Ipoh.
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oops, calor, I saw it yesterday too, just second shop, beside Mayer.
wui not from Ipoh right?

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post Sep 28 2008, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Sep 28 2008, 12:43 AM)
OMRON relay mainly for what?

is it the same relay we use for signal lamp for instance?
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hehe, Omron is everywhere, from head to toe tongue.gif
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post Sep 28 2008, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 28 2008, 01:35 AM)
Jazzy,
Yes, I was there from 4 to 6.30pm, went there to pick up some parts for my second T-amp which I will start to remove the caps and SMDs shortly. It wasn't raining when I reached there.

I tested the new T-amp board; it has the 'pop' sound even in stocked form whereas my well run-in unit which I replaced the caps with Vishay ERO 2.2uF and Panasonic 1000uF 16V surprisingly has no 'pop' sound.  I am surprised hearing the 'pop' sound.
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Y.C, the Ero 2.2uF is square type right? I just bought too but haven't try...printed ERO MKT 1822
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post Sep 28 2008, 07:21 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 28 2008, 05:00 AM)
This thread is the fastest growing thread ever here in audiophile, top poster, yc, gabanyaya, ongbs, xtorm and jazzy biggrin.gif
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hehe...baru tau ah? tongue.gif
Come faster join the club and let it grows even faster brows.gif

btw, how's your t-amp progress?
If I remember correctly you said want to replace a PC speaker amp with t-amp right?
Which speaker model you are having?
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post Sep 28 2008, 04:46 PM

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Thanks Y.C for your latest update smile.gif

I will change my Input caps from Panasonic/Matsushita 4.7uF to ERO MKT 1822 2.2uF today.
I just bought a 3-way Crossovers for testing (to test my floor standing speakers, prepare for bi-amp driving)


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post Sep 28 2008, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 28 2008, 04:52 PM)
ongbs,
no updates from you? tongue.gif
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My living hall is like war zone now, messing around with all equipments and wires tongue.gif
Once you see sure pengsan sweat.gif doh.gif

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post Sep 28 2008, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 28 2008, 05:42 PM)
ongbs,
indeed looks like a war zone!  biggrin.gif , your home minister not at 'war' with you, ah? tongue.gif

Mine is on the contrary.. This morning was still a mess especially the dinner table as I was making the speaker relay board. Later in the afternoon under the request (more like an order!:P)of the home minister I had to put away all DIY stuffs out of sight till Hari Raya is over...  shakehead.gif

Looks like this week very very minimal DIY if there is any in the first place! wink.gif

Keep this place alive guys..! Orang luar negeri tak cuti Raya! Hahahaha!:lol:
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hehe, my minister is small issue...my toy is the major one sweat.gif
Remember last year I bought around 40pcs of E.Caps want to DIY Voltage Stabilizer, he took all and playing around...
After a few days I only managed to find around 5 pcs shakehead.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 28 2008, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 28 2008, 05:57 PM)
ongbs,
Oh ya.. I forgot about your 'toy' laugh.gif He's not 'toying' around with your T-Amp, no?

Anyway, my T-Amp mod is almost maxed out.. Other than installing another board for bi-amping there would be no major modding anticipated.

Well here it is an almost completed T-Amp playing/singing right now in my setup with the cover removed.. wink.gif
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bro, what is the Yamaha mode? Stereo amp right? brows.gif
My toy is ay his grandma house today thumbup.gif

Now he hardly play my stuffs as I told him he will get "shock" if touching my stuffs...but on and off he still come to disturb shakehead.gif

You got a very well built T-amp, with super nice casing...maybe one of the best in this thread notworthy.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 29 2008, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(gabanyayaya @ Sep 28 2008, 11:15 PM)
Hohoho...bro ongbs you just bought a 3-way crossovers for bi-amping!!!!!! Is it an electronic x-over just like the Linkwitz-Riley filter?
Is this some kinda universal x-over suitable for all speakers???????

I'm very very keen to know man...... hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Universal type, still can replace some parts to suit my taste brows.gif
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post Sep 29 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Sep 29 2008, 10:26 AM)
ongbs,
can provide details later on? I am sure some of us are interested. I know gaganyayaya is.. tongue.gif
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ok, these are cheapo X'over but it suit my need tongue.gif
Will snap pics tonight.

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