Sounds weird, wax is suppose to create a layer of smooth surface so oil and dirt DOESN'T stick. Seems yours is working the other way. Mind to share what brand of wax are you using?


Polymer sealant is more for Lasting Protectection more than the shine. You can do a layer of polymer sealant FIRST. Then followup with a layer of wax to have optimum shine. Honestly I never used Kit brand of wax to give any comments but maybe you can try other brands such as Mothers, their waxes does give a good shine.


Oh you mean side panel? Those plastics? Or the Fabric/Leather part?

Cath and Kev? Haven't married lor, former working in Dell and latter working in GXN now. So so. Which area are you hanging around lately?

sounds more like tar spots to me..after rain..mix with dirt..they always appear on white cars...

if no mistaken, blm white is only 2 stage colour, no wax pls....
while metalic is 3 stage colour, we only wax the clear coat. 2 stage colour don't have clear coat, soo no wax just wash...

PM egiewan. He is a frequent customer there.

I just wax my car, if go to wash every week, will it removed the wax ?
Cause i dun wanna wax it again everyweek.

no clear coat? u gotta be kidding bro...

This post has been edited by Mr. Philip: Nov 4 2008, 01:14 PM

Depends on how they wash and the shampoo they use. If you go to those cheapo under the tree car wash using Fab Detergent to wash your car, the wax is gone after a single wash. Just go to those proper places then you'll be ok.

i don no am i kidding or not.
there r 3 type of paint. acrylic enamel, acrylic lacquer and urethane. acrylic enamel-old proton, old kancil (white,red etc) also known as 2 stage colour paint.(1 layer primer + colour). RM22 1 litter
acrylic lacquer-most all new car use this paint also known as 3 stage colour paint.(1 layer primer + colour + clear). RM25 1/4 litter.
urethane.(not much info about this type of paint, not yet avialable at my place) n u have to baked your car inside oven.

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Added on November 4, 2008, 11:45 pmoh, i forgot, and all of these colour cannot mix together.....

This post has been edited by lanlee: Nov 4 2008, 11:45 PM

good info.
So, the solid white is also known as single stage paint...there's sealant/wax for Non clear coat paint oh..

old skool single stage paint can looks as good as or outshine clearcoat paint...With proper care, the solid red color pop effect is good..

but then, soft clear coat is sensitive to swirls and scratches, visible under strong light

This post has been edited by ralf: Nov 5 2008, 01:17 AM

i can understand oldschool paint job with no clear coat but I'm really surprised the saga blm white didn't have clear coat..pardon me for my ignorance..

in that case does it mean 2 stage paint job needs a different kind of maintenance?

correction, since it is base coat + paint(color pigment)..solid white is supposed Two stage

The metallic paint is called as 3 stages? base+paint+clear coat.

Solid white, red looks dull but if proper care, i like the solid white look very much. Unlike some metallic pearl white(some color pigment is YeLLowidh, yucckss)!

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Added on November 5, 2008, 3:50 pmSavvy is pearl white metallic

Perodua also add in solid white to their line up leh..

This post has been edited by ralf: Nov 5 2008, 03:50 PM

hi all,
my car already apply VPS paint protect(i think it's consider sealant).
if now im using TAR/BUG REMOVER or CLAY, will it remove the protection layer of sealant?

VPS is Vehicle Protection System right? Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing. VPS is of a coating nature that chemically bonds to your paint so the answer is NO, it won't be removed by Clay/Tar,Bug Remover.

Never knew that Solid Paint has no clear coat. Should take a closer look at those paints next time

yes, VPS is Vehicle Protection System as u said. thanks for answer...
i also apply diamondbrite on front bonnet for testing, i found both VPS or Diamondbrite not as smooth as i thought. and some dirt also quite hard to remove. marketing gimmick products?

I haven't tried DiamonBrite and VPS myself so no comments on there but what I can tell you is from my experience of using the SONAX Nano Paint Coating (which is also a Coating), it's rough at first and I have to let it cure for 3 days (no washing and anything else). After 1 month, it starts to smooth out by itself

How did you get ur hands on DiamondBrite anyway? Will be very very interested to try it myself.

im not DIY, did it at paint & shield. forgot how much d coz i got it together with 3M stone chips protection film. it's been 1 month d, not smooth at all...maybe due to heavy rain after apply it?

Means the VPS is below the 3M Stone Chips Protection Film? I know about these films but I never come across 3M's one. Though the ones I came across are quite smooth, but doesn't add to the shine of the paint.

Where can i buy claybar?

Professional or DIY range?

DIY, just a simple one..