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post Oct 5 2008, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Oct 5 2008, 01:02 PM)
Where's the center located? Even its a Finishing Polish + Interior Cleaning. For SUV RM350 is dirt cheap O_o For Interior Cleaning alone ppl usually charge that price already.

Ralf the polish looks nice. I see you have some marks at your engine. Presume its leaked engine oil stain. You can request them to use Chrome/Alu Polish to remove that for you smile.gif
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I have a stupid question. Assuming if you have a black car and you wash, polish, wax but a few days later, it gets dirty so you wash your car again. I suppose the wax wouldn't be there anymore so we re-apply the wax everytime? It sounds kind of weird ain't it? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 5 2008, 09:44 PM)
I have a stupid question. Assuming if you have a black car and you wash, polish, wax but a few days later, it gets dirty so you wash your car again. I suppose the wax wouldn't be there anymore so we re-apply the wax everytime? It sounds kind of weird ain't it? biggrin.gif
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A good wax job will last you up to 2 months, depending on how you take care of it and how you wash the car. If you look in the previous page you can see my car 3 weeks after a wax job in which I spent 15 mins with a quick detailier to buff up before going out. Wax does not get stripped off in just one wash. The place I go to does not use sponge to wash the car as it is not wax friendly. They use their bare hands to rub the car. Anyway, if you have a lot of wax on the car, there is no need to scrub hard to remove the dirt. Even the rain would clean the dirt off as nothing would stick to the car.
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kinda frust..still can find small n light swirls marks..even after i follow ...haiz...now been 3weeks havent wash my car..god knows how dirty..been very very busy..
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Hey Yukito. How much does it cost to do detailing on my Peugeot 407? Thanks bro.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Oct 5 2008, 11:55 PM)
A good wax job will last you up to 2 months, depending on how you take care of it and how you wash the car. If you look in the previous page you can see my car 3 weeks after a wax job in which I spent 15 mins with a quick detailier to buff up before going out. Wax does not get stripped off in just one wash. The place I go to does not use sponge to wash the car as it is not wax friendly. They use their bare hands to rub the car. Anyway, if you have a lot of wax on the car, there is no need to scrub hard to remove the dirt. Even the rain would clean the dirt off as nothing would stick to the car.
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Thanks bro smile.gif Which wax do you recommend? I heard about all these good brands but it's so hard to find. Any places to buy them?
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 6 2008, 10:34 AM)
Thanks bro smile.gif Which wax do you recommend? I heard about all these good brands but it's so hard to find. Any places to buy them?
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I'd rather leave the professional work to the pros as they would have access to better grades of waxes than those simple commercial products. Meg is good but the ones used by the pros would not be the same as the one you find on the shelves. Just like the Zymol waxes that used by Autospa and the amount of time put into my car, it would be better to let the pros do it. They have the manpower and the hours.

A wax job for me at Autospa takes 4 guys and 2 hours to finish. That is 8 man hours and for me to do it by myself, it is not worth the time.
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post Oct 6 2008, 12:04 PM

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kinda frust..still can find small n light swirls marks..even after i follow ...haiz...now been 3weeks havent wash my car..god knows how dirty..been very very busy..

Using microfibre cloth? Maybe you're rubbing too hard. It's only been like 2 months since u last did the polish O_o

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Which wax do you recommend? I heard about all these good brands but it's so hard to find. Any places to buy them?

It depends what you're going for. Long lasting or high gloss? How often are you willing to wax your car?

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Hey Yukito. How much does it cost to do detailing on my Peugeot 407? Thanks bro.

Can't really estimate car size from picture. Is it like Honda City size or Accord size?

Hrm funny lately quite a few peugeots coming in.....

sleepwalker one day you can try Mothers Wax, quite ok also and I think the difference is negliegeble. Can DIY

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Oct 6 2008, 12:04 PM)
Using microfibre cloth? Maybe you're rubbing too hard. It's only been like 2 months since u last did the polish O_o
It depends what you're going for. Long lasting or high gloss? How often are you willing to wax your car?
Can't really estimate car size from picture. Is it like Honda City size or Accord size?

Hrm funny lately quite a few peugeots coming in.....

sleepwalker one day you can try Mothers Wax, quite ok also and I think the difference is negliegeble. Can DIY
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It takes too long. The issue is not the type of wax but the time it takes. Every time I wax, they of course wash the car, then treat and prep the surface with surface cleaners, apply multiple coats of wax with 4 guys going around the car, wax on and wax off. Rather different procedure than most places where they apply the wax to the whole car and wait. Here they have all 4 guys wax on and wax off a few times overlapping each other's panels. Then comes the final wipe and then finish off with a last spray and wipe.
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Thanks sleepwalker and Yukito for the helpful information smile.gif How much does it costs for a whole treatment like this? If it only lasts for 2-3 months then it's a bit hard to justify the amount spent?

I prefer long lasting than more gloss and I don't mind waxing myself leisurely on a Sunday afternoon laugh.gif It doesn't have to be perfect but at least I'm able to see some difference and preserve the paint.
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How much does it costs for a whole treatment like this? If it only lasts for 2-3 months then it's a bit hard to justify the amount spent?

2 - 3 months is almost unachievable in normal conditions. Most people ones only last 1 month. Unless you always park under the shade, its highly unlikely you'll go past 2 months.

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I prefer long lasting than more gloss and I don't mind waxing myself leisurely on a Sunday afternoon laugh.gif It doesn't have to be perfect but at least I'm able to see some difference and preserve the paint.

If you are the kind to go for longer lasting then you can try coating. I also offer coating services. Lasts one year (guaranteed) for RM300. Coating are suppose to achieve the same purpose as wax but its raw materials are different. Instead of Carnauba Wax, coating can be based on fluorocarbon or teflon, etc.

I find that if you do a weekly routine of spray on Polish & Wax solution then wipe down, you can actually skip the surface prep step. Which makes the waxing itself not so difficult to do. I always find the surface prep step to be the most laborious
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Thanks bro smile.gif Does it mean if I do coating, I wouldn't need to wax for the rest of the year but just use some "Polish & Wax" solution? If I go with normal waxing, how often does people have to re-wax? Once a month?
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 6 2008, 02:57 PM)
Thanks sleepwalker and Yukito for the helpful information smile.gif How much does it costs for a whole treatment like this? If it only lasts for 2-3 months then it's a bit hard to justify the amount spent?

I prefer long lasting than more gloss and I don't mind waxing myself leisurely on a Sunday afternoon laugh.gif It doesn't have to be perfect but at least I'm able to see some difference and preserve the paint.
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That's the problem. Cost is RM160 and it's worth every cent to bring on the gloss and protection. The only DIY that I do is the quick detailing (15-20 mins) every 2 weeks to keep the wax as glossy as possible. That would also allow me to stretch the wax to about 2 months.


Added on October 6, 2008, 4:23 pm
QUOTE(Yukito @ Oct 6 2008, 03:20 PM)
2 - 3 months is almost unachievable in normal conditions. Most people ones only last 1 month. Unless you always park under the shade, its highly unlikely you'll go past 2 months.
If you are the kind to go for longer lasting then you can try coating. I also offer coating services. Lasts one year (guaranteed) for RM300. Coating are suppose to achieve the same purpose as wax but its raw materials are different. Instead of Carnauba Wax, coating can be based on fluorocarbon or teflon, etc.

I find that if you do a weekly routine of spray on Polish & Wax solution then wipe down, you can actually skip the surface prep step. Which makes the waxing itself not so difficult to do. I always find the surface prep step to be the most laborious
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It is achievable with proper maintenance. My car is out in the open 24/7 and the wax would last 2 months provided it gets a good layer of QD every couple of weeks. Also it must only be washed at Autospa weekly. Anywhere else and I can see them strip the wax bare with their strong shampoo and rough sponge.

Unfortunately, for darker cars, synthetic wax or coatings do not bring out the shine. No point having the protection when the car doesn't look like it has been protected at all.

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You mean wash, gloss, wax and protection for RM160? Where is this Autospa?
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You mean wash, gloss, wax and protection for RM160? Where is this Autospa?
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Ah, I know now because I pass by sometimes (the one beside Jalan Tun Razak) biggrin.gif I always thought it costs a bomb to get detailing done there but RM160 sounds reasonable to me.
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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Oct 6 2008, 08:41 PM)
Ah, I know now because I pass by sometimes (the one beside Jalan Tun Razak) biggrin.gif I always thought it costs a bomb to get detailing done there but RM160 sounds reasonable to me.
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Ah yes, there is also the Tun Razak branch. Umm.. RM160 is only waxing as I have mentioned (although they do more than just wax). It is not polish and it is not detailing. I bought the detailing package for 3 details and that cost me RM1500. Individual detailing will cost more than RM600 without package.

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There are also a few more other shops in Ampang, next to Kleemann showroom whistling.gif

But i think i'm going to ask Yukito to apply nano coating to my car....see how's the results smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2008, 11:14 PM

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Dear all, my dad bought a bottle of wax, and i would like to ask, what's the proper way to diy wax?
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post Oct 6 2008, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Yukito @ Oct 5 2008, 01:02 PM)
Ralf the polish looks nice. I see you have some marks at your engine. Presume its leaked engine oil stain. You can request them to use Chrome/Alu Polish to remove that for you smile.gif
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Yeap..that's engine oil stain.
The boss said can't do anything because the mark already bond into it. wink.gif yawn.gif I think i'll need to buy a bottle of alum polish to DIY..hehe

Too bad, your shop is in Southern region...or else i send my car to your shop. Your price is much more attractive too !! *respect* notworthy.gif nod.gif


Added on October 6, 2008, 11:43 pmsome update.

10hours later after detailing. Heavy rain for almost 3hours, unfortunately the rear boot is exposed to Roof water drainage. Oh my god, it neither sheets nor beads water !!!
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The rest of the part has very tight water beading, nice.
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Looking at the result, I was left disappointed. wink.gif shakehead.gif cry.gif cry.gif Enhanced M21, the so called M21 version2.0?
Have to wax again the rear boot section this weekend doh.gif

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