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post Sep 20 2013, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ryan Soo @ Sep 20 2013, 06:18 PM)
anyone using panasonic inverter?
how much u been charge for every 1 feet of host?
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I guess inverter copper pipe is around there. If they charge you in Rm8-12 for 6 & 12mm dia pipe of the contractor done with the most cheapest copper pipe also 3rd class do you might that.. Not guarranty the gas can be leaking sometime.
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post Sep 20 2013, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(irwan6179 @ Sep 20 2013, 06:43 PM)
Are they the same brand and make? Sometimes even with same manufacturer also have different btu for each unit. I don't think it's because gas type,  but the compressor and mechanical difference.
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Different MFG can be difference cooling.
But plus & minor on inverter unit won't be so much different at all.

The main thing is gas R410a have more higher pressure can be reach more faster to catching up your temp. setting in time.

Why R410a need more thicken pipe due to higher pressure to avoid an leaking in future time, that' why cost a little bit more.

Refer my living hall using 2.5hp on 1hp power output only.
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post Sep 22 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(areankim @ Sep 21 2013, 11:30 PM)
currently all inverter is above 1.2k eh... got below 1.2k 1 ar?
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China brand maybe can get.
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post Sep 24 2013, 08:01 AM

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Ha ha Mit inverter cut cost, now 1hp using more slim fan coil already, last time mine on 1hp an using with 1.8hp size.

http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...ircond/inverter

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post Oct 3 2013, 07:16 AM

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Inverter aircond use at lease 4 wire per pair from internal to outdoor unit. From outdoor to power point for 1 way only.

Non inverter may tap power wire from indoor to outdoor compressor unit.

That is more headache if didn't check it properly before an installment any aircond type.

For Daikin R22 gas inverter maybe still is the bonus for replace any non inverter type and reuse on same cooper pipe. Just need to check how to solve on wiring only.
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Oct 3 2013, 09:38 AM)
I heard that Daikin Inverter need 7 wires.. is that true?
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Common non inverter for 3 + 3 wire enough.
In & out to outdoor.

For inverter type need 4 + 4 in & out also.
But the main power supplied at outdoor unit.

For non inverter can be tap at indoor fancoil to power supply only.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 3 2013, 01:57 PM)
I plan to install Mitsubishi E24 2.5hp non inverter in the living area. Installation is back to back and cabling and piping for the out door unit no need conceal. I need to pull a conceal direct wiring from the DB to the indoor unit. Does how many wires matters ??
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For normal one on wiring is not an issue.

Take note for non inverter of bigger Hp, after usage a period you will realise of wall vibrator or can hear the compressor running noise.

If you might consider for inverter that is solve
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 3 2013, 04:32 PM)
Please prove your claim. My mother and in law house using non inverter where got sound?
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Not need prompt lah... Too common for me.

After changed to inverter then you will get what I meant.
After over an a year.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 3 2013, 07:30 PM)
I use non inverter and inverter in my house all the same quiet. And all more than a year.
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If ur is hang on top of window and only single storey out side of car porch wall.

Even inside of bedroom still can hear on compressor running noise on & off.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 3 2013, 11:06 PM)
Please la, the compressor just on top my toilet. And my ears is functioning. My Neighbor Daikin installer later than me having noise already, can even heard it from my toilet. And she just got it fix.
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Maybe your is better than all notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 3 2013, 11:31 PM)
Is not mine is better, I never hear anyone say all non-inverter  compressor complain get noisy except fault a/c except you.
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That why got better technology why not to try.. Use more and save more electric bill with reduce noise at night time.
Cause due to outdoor fan speed is follow actual temperature to reduce high & low & even compressor speed.

Mine is Mitsubishi electric starmex so far so good, already has been usage 3 yrs long still quiet at all.

Never ask aircond service for repair a once.
Cause I know how to solve on water leakage & use filter to block more dust at all.
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QUOTE(steventanz @ Oct 4 2013, 01:43 PM)
looks like no one install before an air cond on a ready pipe and wiring condominium?  sad.gif
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Can ask ur developer or air cond contractor
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 4 2013, 10:00 PM)
I was told by a electrical shop owner that the proper wire standard for 2.5hp aircond is 4mm wire. MCB can use 20A or 30A.
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try to use MCB C32 red color one
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 4 2013, 10:14 PM)
why red colour ??
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I also dunno for all in white color C16 and use for aircond an red color C32 in red color one smile.gif

How many Amp cloud not found
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post Oct 13 2013, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 13 2013, 12:25 AM)
Just stalled Mitsubishi E24 2.5ho non inverter to my living area today.
Boy, both outdoor and indoor unit are so bulky and big.
Very powerful cooling power. Can cool down the entire ground floor ie living, dining and kitchen.
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You meant it MS-E24VC?

http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...nd/non-inverter
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QUOTE(rastakilla @ Oct 13 2013, 01:13 AM)
yes, mitsubishi heavy industry is d best
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Heavy industry can't easy clean right, if I not wrong
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 13 2013, 01:45 PM)
Yes. The "Wide & Long" airflow feature is really good for big living and dinning area.
I can feel the airflow at dining area about 25ft away from indoor unit. It's brochure says the airflow can reach 12m.
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That is good, mine is inverter type.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Oct 13 2013, 05:07 PM)
Yes confirmed R410A performance is better, cooling faster for sure. I had been using Mitsubishi Starmex 1HP aircon, at nite I just need to on 27 to 28 degree and it is so cool....

Mxlxysxxx buys thing just look at price and not quality of product, so they will find all sort of reasons to slide their decision on a cheaper stuff...
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but some ppls is prefer cheap and good, at end of monthly bill is higher too
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 13 2013, 06:26 PM)
Wow, I do not know that millions of non-inverter air-cond (R22) are vibrating out there, and using inverter R410a can solve the vibrating issue.

Strange, I never heard inverter air-cond manufacturers claim, using inverter can solve non-inverter compressor vibrating issue...

So far, I only heard R410 being operated at higher pressure, and better cooling effect (due to high pressure operating) and a more "green" gas.
May be I too outdated?
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inverter compressor is fully control by outside temperature due to automatic adjust running speed in actual condition or high or low speed, so when outside temperature is too hot for the fan + compressor would be running in high speed, after while to reduce until very low to keep inside the room temperature as same cooling, either you control to increase 1 to 2 more lower temp of indoor temp for the outdoor will be change to increase higher speed again..

to compare on non - inverter for what i know is, once reach on temp as setting then stop for while and turn on to be running full high speed to be faster keep cooling, for most vibrator is rubble mounting kong.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 13 2013, 08:51 PM)
That is only your assumption/theory? Or come from study by the professional?

Like cherroy say, I also don't see all the millions non inverter  having this issue. go around places like ss2 almost all the shop lots using normal Ac, go feel if got vibration.
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unless you dun care for it.. got money and change new right?? rclxms.gif

who ever if not due to noise sensitive should be not an issue, if compressor mounting kong and replace new, no big deal drool.gif

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