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post Oct 13 2013, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 13 2013, 11:57 PM)
This one ahh... You got screw driver and open up the casing and clean out all the water drain for jelly thing.

Also use and same size of strew slot in on indoor drain pipe and use mouth to blow with air mixed with water too.

Can be blow out as many dust & jelly until the water running smoothly with not stuck at all, then put back the while casing with screw back that so..
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Yorla. Where did u buy the filter bro? I also try to find one, but couldnt find it.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 13 2013, 09:48 PM)
ok you got your reason... too, i love my inverter for save the noise issue...  blush.gif
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You wrote earlier "Take note for non inverter of bigger Hp, after usage a period you will realise of wall vibrator or can hear the compressor running noise."

As all non-inverter will have such problem, and inverter got no such problem. Unless you have such data to proof.
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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Oct 13 2013, 11:06 PM)
Im not saying u cheated me. But from d way u explain just now, i can say that mitsubishi is quiter than hitachi, not non inverter is noisier than inverter.

Anyway, have u tried to select silence mode on ur hitachi?

N have u tried daikin?
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Even silent mode also can't flight. The air flaw noise can be killing my ear.. Lol
What ever installed already just face to usage until spoiled and change into Mitsubishi electric starmex
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 13 2013, 11:09 PM)
You wrote earlier "Take note for non inverter of bigger Hp, after usage a period you will realise of wall vibrator or can hear the compressor running noise."

As all non-inverter will have such problem, and inverter got no such problem. Unless you have such data to proof.
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No worried,, that claim from my Aircond contractor.
Cause due to vibrator until the sliding door got sound..lol
Cause I'm lucky to chosen inverter type.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Oct 13 2013, 11:15 PM
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 12:10 AM)
Even silent mode also can't flight. The air flaw noise can be killing my ear.. Lol
What ever installed already just face to usage until spoiled and change into Mitsubishi electric starmex
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Ha3. U r die hard fans of mitsu bro. Im happy that u found your ultimate a/c. Just stick on what u like d most bro.. if u dont like d hitachi, just take it out n sell it. The longer u wait the cheaper it will get. Then use that money to cover part of ur mitsu a/c cost.
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 12:13 AM)
No worried,, that claim from my Aircond contractor.
Cause due to vibrator until the sliding door got sound..lol
Cause I'm lucky to chosen inverter type.
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Good brand like mitsu, non inverter also no problem la bro. Inverter also has its own prob. U know or not bro?
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 13 2013, 11:13 PM)
No worried,, that claim from my Aircond contractor.
Cause due to vibrator until the sliding door got sound..lol
Cause I'm lucky to chosen inverter type.
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So is CLAIM only.
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Oct 13 2013, 11:20 PM)
Good brand like mitsu, non inverter also no problem la bro. Inverter also has its own prob. U know or not bro?
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I knew that, cause my 1st aircond is non inverter mah, panasonic, hitachi & York from Singapore of split unit, in 1 outdoor inside got 2 compressor.
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 12:28 AM)
I knew that, cause my 1st aircond is non inverter mah, panasonic, hitachi & York from Singapore of split unit, in 1 outdoor inside got 2 compressor.
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Wah.. so many brand that u used. Almost all already excpt daikin. Why r?

I do agree they way non inverter ac works MIGHT make it prone to vibration. But with good dampner the prob can be solved, not much an issue. Even inverter type ac also can vibrate like hell if the dampner goes kaput.

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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Oct 13 2013, 11:33 PM)
Wah.. so many brand that u used. Almost all already excpt daikin. Why r?

I do agree they way non inverter ac works MIGHT make it prone to vibration. But with good dampner the prob can be solved, not much an issue. Even inverter type ac also can vibrate like hell if the dampner goes kaput.
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Daikin ah.. nothing special.. don't easy clean model..

even buy york inverter also enjoy the same cooling.. rclxms.gif

from what i knew on daikin R22 pre model is using AC inverter..

that's why i go with hitachi & Mitsubishi electric.. even my friend in singapore is aircond contractor he also said Daikin ah... you want the brand and not want do more repair works. hmm.gif

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post Oct 14 2013, 12:23 AM

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My aircond installer told me that only thru heavy usage of inverter aircond can achieve saving in electricity bill as compare to non inverter. However, heavy usage also means more frequent maintenance and the maintenance for inverter is more expensive than non inverter. It may take years for the saving in electricity to off-set the initial premium price, extra installation cost + extra maintenance cost.
He said he would only recommend inverter aircond to customer who use more than 12 hours every day.
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post Oct 14 2013, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 01:15 AM)
Daikin ah.. nothing special.. don't easy clean model..

even buy york inverter also enjoy the same cooling..  rclxms.gif

from what i knew on daikin R22 pre model is using AC inverter..

that's why i go with hitachi & Mitsubishi electric.. even my friend in singapore is aircond contractor he also said Daikin ah... you want the brand and not want do more repair works.  hmm.gif
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Nothing special? Its d only inverter using r22, d only n one of its kind swing compressor n d quiete level is quite superior.

Daikin is not easy to repair? Who says this bro?
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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Oct 14 2013, 01:06 AM)
Nothing special? Its d only inverter using r22, d only n one of its kind swing compressor n d quiete level is quite superior.

Daikin is not easy to repair? Who says this bro?
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Hmm I Guess daikin already running R410a model like Singapore now.. Baru energy saving smile.gif

R22 really older already.

How bout price for daikin R410a vs R22 in 1hp now?
For last time I asked is more expansive then Starmex inverter
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post Oct 14 2013, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 05:59 AM)
Hmm I Guess daikin already running R410a model like Singapore now.. Baru energy saving smile.gif

R22 really older already.

How bout price for daikin R410a vs R22 in 1hp now?
For last time I asked is more expansive then Starmex inverter
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Old does not mean no good. Who say r22 inverter not saving energy?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Oct 14 2013, 08:02 AM)
Old does not mean no good. Who say r22 inverter not saving energy?
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Claim from my friend he own now, not even cold at 25 degree, he almost use at 22degre for smaller room size.

22 vs 25-27 degree on R410a which one can save more?
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post Oct 14 2013, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 08:30 AM)
Claim from my friend he own now, not even cold at 25 degree, he almost use at 22degre for smaller room size.

22 vs 25-27 degree on R410a which one can save more?
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Please, 22c is still 22c, if 25c = 22c, something wrong with the unit temperature sensor or because the unit are not performing due to lack in maintenance.

Don't tell me I use Stove A, boiling RO water is 100c, Stove B boiling same RO water only need 97c. Is so not logic.

If R22 in daikin not saving as R410, look like lots of Daikin users invest wrong product.

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post Oct 14 2013, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 08:30 AM)
Claim from my friend he own now, not even cold at 25 degree, he almost use at 22degre for smaller room size.

22 vs 25-27 degree on R410a which one can save more?
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Either the air-cond is not effficient (blower clogged with fur hence reduction in airflow, quite normal happen), or something wrong with the air-cond or room itself not properly closed/insulated etc reason.

For non-inverter
Temperature setting on the remote control, is for the compressor to shut down when achieved the temp.
There is a thermo-sensor to detect the air-temperature inside/around the blower.

So whether you set 22 or 25, it makes little different. If the temperature is not reached 22/25, the compressor will be running 100%, be it you set it 18,20, or 26, if the temperature of room air is not reaching there.
Compressor will only stop running when the thermo-sensor sense the temperature of the air drop to the set temperature in the remote control.

While for inverter.
It is still the same working mechanism, except when the compressor can be running at 50%, if the air temperature start dropping to near the set temperature.

Eg. when room air is 30, while setting of remote is 25, the compressor running at full speed to cool the air.
But when it senses the room temperature become 27 already, then compressor slowdown to 50%,
when it senses become 26, the compressor slowdown to 20%.

This is how inverter can save electricity.


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post Oct 14 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Oct 14 2013, 06:59 AM)
Hmm I Guess daikin already running R410a model like Singapore now.. Baru energy saving smile.gif

R22 really older already.

How bout price for daikin R410a vs R22 in 1hp now?
For last time I asked is more expansive then Starmex inverter
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Did u know why now most all d manufacturer switch r22 to r410a? Its not performance issue, its due to environment. R22 is ozone depleting agent but r410a is not. However r410a contribute to global warming. Therefore both are actually equally energy saving, but i think daikin are more power saving due to its revolutionary swing compressor which minimize pressure loss, thus making it more efficient.

R410a also not new, its also old.

Last time, daikin 1hp cost me rm1300 inclusive installation. N i do agree its outdoor unit is very quite. If u select silence + night mode, u cant hear it sound at all, unless u put ur ear very2 close to the unit lah..
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post Oct 14 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 14 2013, 11:21 AM)
Either the air-cond is not effficient (blower clogged with fur hence reduction in airflow, quite normal happen), or something wrong with the air-cond or room itself not properly closed/insulated etc reason.

For non-inverter
Temperature setting on the remote control, is for the compressor to shut down when achieved the temp.
There is a thermo-sensor to detect the air-temperature inside/around the blower.

So whether you set 22 or 25, it makes little different. If the temperature is not reached 22/25, the compressor will be running 100%, be it you set it 18,20, or 26, if the temperature of room air is not reaching there.
Compressor will only stop running when the thermo-sensor sense the temperature of the air drop to the set temperature in the remote control.

While for inverter.
It is still the same working mechanism, except when the compressor can be running at 50%, if the air temperature start dropping to near the set temperature.

Eg. when room air is 30, while setting of remote is 25, the compressor running at full speed to cool the air.
But when it senses the room temperature become 27 already, then compressor slowdown to 50%,
when it senses become 26, the compressor slowdown to 20%.

This is how inverter can save electricity.
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Sure r inverter can run at 20%? I thought only 0, 50 n 100%.

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post Oct 14 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Oct 14 2013, 10:32 AM)
Sure r inverter can run at 20%? I thought only 0, 50 n 100%.
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Some have variable speed. But not sure which model and brand. I read it in their marketing material.

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