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ozak
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Aug 14 2009, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 14 2009, 09:17 PM) Oh.. icic.. As I know York is a very good brand, reliable, price is reasonable, and after sales service is very good..  Are you sure? Have you been using york before? My office using 2unit 3hp york aircon. Noisy.  Got 1 unit new straight away the fan give noisy sound after instal. Ask the technician fix it. He said is like that one.  Added on August 14, 2009, 9:56 pmQUOTE(PJusa @ Aug 14 2009, 08:55 PM) mzms, great guide and very true. EER is the key. i used to use carrier only cause they had the highest EER. now switching one by one to inverter cause they run 24/7 ar 28°. very comfy actually and this does save a lot money. in general cooling the room moderately saves a lot and you tend to freeze less too  If I not mistaken, the carrier EER rotary comp is from panasonic. This post has been edited by ozak: Aug 14 2009, 09:56 PM
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KKW
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Aug 14 2009, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 14 2009, 09:54 PM) Are you sure? Have you been using york before? My office using 2unit 3hp york aircon. Noisy.  Got 1 unit new straight away the fan give noisy sound after instal. Ask the technician fix it. He said is like that one.  Added on August 14, 2009, 9:56 pmIf I not mistaken, the carrier EER rotary comp is from panasonic.  I not sure about 3hp a/c.. I'm using 1hp and 1.5hp york.. my 1.5hp sometime got some small problem.. I call york.. the next working day the technician come over my house and fix it..
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Homerun
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Aug 14 2009, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 14 2009, 10:17 PM) I not sure about 3hp a/c.. I'm using 1hp and 1.5hp york.. my 1.5hp sometime got some small problem.. I call york.. the next working day the technician come over my house and fix it.. Hi, You buying from which shop? thanks
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KKW
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Aug 14 2009, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(Homerun @ Aug 14 2009, 11:03 PM) Hi, You buying from which shop? thanks normal electronic shop... where u from bro?
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Torniquet
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Aug 15 2009, 01:27 AM
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Any1 noe any installer for air con...need to install my aircon to my new home....if got pls PM me thx..
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cheer83
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Aug 15 2009, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE(Torniquet @ Aug 15 2009, 01:27 AM) Any1 noe any installer for air con...need to install my aircon to my new home....if got pls PM me thx.. where is ur location?
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mzms
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Aug 15 2009, 06:48 AM
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PJusa, ya inverter is suitable in your case. For example, if I run my sharp at 27C only it cools down quickly and then the compressor stops for 3 minutes then restart for 4, stop 3, restart 4, etc etc... this consumes a ton of electricty because we all know electronics (like our PCs) draw huge amount of current when turning on. So to run at 27C I need inverter unit. I normally just run at AUTO mode which will be 25C and this seems to be the best setting for me.
Added on August 15, 2009, 6:50 amKKW, what problem with the 1.5HP unit? Maybe I will try panasonic for the 2.5HP unit and use York for the 1HP units. My brother has two York 1HP units and they are very good. However, he also has a Samsung which is very bad (within 1 year rosak, I was there when it started blowing hot air).
Added on August 15, 2009, 7:25 amjust want to share two more feedback from friends using sharp, lg, panasonic and haier. friend A: use Sharp at rented place as well as own home. first sharp no problems until 3 years, then leaking problems. then capacitor blown and blow warm air. then change to panasonic, 3 years so far no problem. own home using haier 2 units, both problematic and always break down. change to sharp, in 1 year already problem so change to LG, so far 2 years no problem. at parent's place use haier, not cold at all.
friend b using haier for 6 years only serviced once, very cold and no problems at all.
so conclusion is... buying aircond like proton car lor... u lucky u get good one u not lucky u get bad apple, hahaha. i think car aircond more reliable hahaha.
This post has been edited by mzms: Aug 15 2009, 07:25 AM
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KKW
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Aug 15 2009, 08:01 AM
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just small problem.. etc.. thermostat not sensitive.. sometimes cool sometimes hot when setting tempreature at 25°c after change it.. the problem solve.. another one is.. remote control censor cant detect the control btw, for my opinion, on high speed fan on Penasonic 2.5hp slightly quite than York 2.5hp
This post has been edited by KKW: Aug 15 2009, 08:08 AM
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ozak
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Aug 15 2009, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(mzms @ Aug 15 2009, 06:48 AM) Added on August 15, 2009, 7:25 amjust want to share two more feedback from friends using sharp, lg, panasonic and haier. friend A: use Sharp at rented place as well as own home. first sharp no problems until 3 years, then leaking problems. then capacitor blown and blow warm air. then change to panasonic, 3 years so far no problem. own home using haier 2 units, both problematic and always break down. change to sharp, in 1 year already problem so change to LG, so far 2 years no problem. at parent's place use haier, not cold at all. friend b using haier for 6 years only serviced once, very cold and no problems at all. so conclusion is... buying aircond like proton car lor... u lucky u get good one u not lucky u get bad apple, hahaha. i think car aircond more reliable hahaha. My first aircon is panasonic 1hp. Use around around 8yrs. No problem. I service by myself. But I change it to bigger HP. Use back panasonic cause it more reliable.  Others is hitachi, mitsubishi, sanyo.
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Torniquet
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Aug 15 2009, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(cheer83 @ Aug 15 2009, 06:47 AM) my place ar...desa petaling
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mzms
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Aug 15 2009, 12:10 PM
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Here's a very simple excel calculator I put together to give a very rough idea of electricity usage and cost. It does not take into consideration EER or anything, just simple wattage only (assume same btu rating). Download the attached zip file. Open the excel file and change the fields in yellow. You can then compare Units A and B etc. Hope is useful to give rough idea. For a more elaborate one, go to the energystar website and download the excel savings calculator. It is intended for USA use but you can change the states (number of hours) to suit the number of hours you use your aircond closest to your own usage. Link: http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=roomac.pr_room_acEDIT: uploaded excel 2003 format, pls try again. This post has been edited by mzms: Aug 15 2009, 12:29 PM Attached File(s)
aircond_calculator_excel_2003.zip ( 2.81k )
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KKW
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Aug 15 2009, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2009, 09:16 AM) My first aircon is panasonic 1hp. Use around around 8yrs. No problem. I service by myself. But I change it to bigger HP. Use back panasonic cause it more reliable.  Others is hitachi, mitsubishi, sanyo. remaind me of my Sanyo a/c last time.. my parent use that a/c for almost 21years..  no problem at all and it still cool.. my father service the a/c himself.. Added on August 15, 2009, 12:15 pmQUOTE(mzms @ Aug 15 2009, 12:10 PM) Here's a very simple excel calculator I put together to give a very rough idea of electricity usage and cost. It does take take into consideration EER or anything, just simple wattage only (assume same btu rating). Download the attached zip file. Open the excel file and change the fields in yellow. You can then compare Units A and B etc. Hope is useful to give rough idea. For a more elaborate one, go to the energystar website and download the excel savings calculator. It is intended for USA use but you can change the states (number of hours) to suit the number of hours you use your aircond closest to your own usage. Link: http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=roomac.pr_room_acbro.. use what program to open it? This post has been edited by KKW: Aug 15 2009, 12:15 PM
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mzms
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Aug 15 2009, 12:18 PM
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is a zip file, unzip then use excel lor. i use excel 2007.
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KKW
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Aug 15 2009, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(mzms @ Aug 15 2009, 12:18 PM) is a zip file, unzip then use excel lor. i use excel 2007. lol.. my excel 2003 cant open that file
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mzms
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Aug 15 2009, 12:30 PM
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ok please try again, i re-uploaded in 2003 format. I really regret not buying the York in terms of savings in eletricity usage. But no point now, I think I want to move the Sharp to the infrequently used small guest room and then install either Panasonic or York in my own room.
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ozak
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Aug 15 2009, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 15 2009, 12:13 PM) remaind me of my Sanyo a/c last time.. my parent use that a/c for almost 21years..  no problem at all and it still cool.. my father service the a/c himself.. That why I choose back the panasonic. No reason for me to change others brand.  Time will tell.
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KKW
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Aug 15 2009, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(mzms @ Aug 15 2009, 12:30 PM) ok please try again, i re-uploaded in 2003 format. I really regret not buying the York in terms of savings in eletricity usage. But no point now, I think I want to move the Sharp to the infrequently used small guest room and then install either Panasonic or York in my own room. thx bro.. why dont try daikin? QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 15 2009, 12:53 PM) That why I choose back the panasonic. No reason for me to change others brand.  Time will tell. icic.. seem now sanyo no longer selling at market..
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mzms
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Aug 15 2009, 01:22 PM
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i never see daikin for sale here. The installer did a very good job with my sharp, seal up everything nicely. i will ask him to do the other rooms too.
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KKW
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Aug 15 2009, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(mzms @ Aug 15 2009, 01:22 PM) i never see daikin for sale here. The installer did a very good job with my sharp, seal up everything nicely. i will ask him to do the other rooms too. oh.. icic.. where is ur location?
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Homerun
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Aug 15 2009, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(KKW @ Aug 14 2009, 11:43 PM) normal electronic shop... where u from bro? i'm staying at puchong.
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