Here is the info for 3M water filter
solutions.3m.com.my/wps/portal/3M/en_MY/Water-Filter/Purification/Solutions/Residential/3M-Water-Filter-Products/

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wow, thanks for the share.

well if you are comparing jus microns than your Clazzen UF 3000 is ofcoz good. THere are many membrane filters in the market, all also can filter upto 0.01micron.

Basically the outdoor filter is to reduce sediments and rust, 5 micron is very good already, 0.01 micron is like drinking quality. Here is an analogy, you rented a 3 tonne lorry just to transport a study table while a 1 tonne lorry is good enough.

Well, think about it, will 0.01 micron filtration reduce your incoming water pressure? Definitely yes, the smaller the micron, the harder water can flow through your filter. Is that good? No, the wives wont like it as it will affect your kitchen's water pressure

Secondly, can membrane filters maintain consistent filtration of 0.01 micron all the time? No and membrane filters are quite fragile, could not withstand pressure >3bar.
I checked with some of my suppliers, there are many Membrane filters catalog state that they can withstand 5-6 bar but why online state only 3bar. The answer is bcoz the filter stainless steel body (casing) can withstand 5-6bar not the membrane inside.
http://www.emis.vito.be/techniekfiche/ultr...ion?language=en

Just google online and you will get the answers There are pros n cons for each water filters, you just need to study them and find which suits you the best. I have done my research and got good feedbacks from csutomers like weikee thatz why i choosen to sell 3M

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 29 2013, 11:12 PM

After water cut (syabas maintenance) the first gush of water is extremely dirty and you should actually let the dirty water flow out instead of letting it going through ur water filter. If you let the dirty water go into your filter this will happen :

1) Membrane filter
Most probably will damage the membrane as dirt is trying to force its way through the filter and eventually some might get through. Hence, it wont b able to maintain the 0.01 micron filtration

2) Sand Filter
Dirt will just force its way through the sand and enter your house

3) 3M
Dirt will be trapped by the Pleated Media, dirt wont go into your house and the media wont break but it will shorten the life span of your cartridge.

From this example, you can c that there are pros and cons for each filters, as mentioned you will need to do your own research and determine what is best for you.


This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 30 2013, 11:47 PM

Yes 2 to 2.5bar pressure is just nice but after going through membrane filter it will drop approximately 1 bar. As mentioned, i do my own research and share it online. Have a look at this



This post has been edited by zheilwane: Oct 30 2013, 11:47 PM

Use 3M AP902, close ur main and remove the cartridge. WHen u come back from work, turn on the main if u c dirty water coming out from the 3M Fitler , leave it til it becomes clean, turn off the meter and install back the 3M cartridge Now 3M solve the water rationing problem

Well, i did visit some of my customers to replace some of the 3M cartridges for the sake of learning (i dont do that now) and from there i learn a few tricks on protecting & prolonging the life span for the filter For those who have more queries on 3M water filter or general water filters, jus drop by our showroom, we would b able to give good advise and help u in choosing what is best for you

FYI, that water is tap water mix with a little INK, so it is impossible for it to clog the filter 50%. This demo shows how good the UF filtration but at the expense of reducing water pressure. How often we get water as dirty as this?

Now from your explanation, seems like UF is more troublesome, nd flushing twice a day, nd backwash and after sometimes nd to change the membrane.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Nov 1 2013, 01:05 AM

i think u didnt get the point here. There are people out there who wants super clean water so get UF while there are some who just wants clean water, higher flow rate and lesser maintenance, hence 3M is the choice. As mentioned many times, each filters have their pros and cons, each customers have different needs. Just share the info online and let the customers decide what is best for them.

1) Flushing twice a day (1 minute/once) and backwash Once every 2 week (I minute/Once), Replacement of membrane every 3 years = TROUBLESOME and High Maintenance, wouldnt this b a BIG HEADACHE for busy people like us?

2) UF 0.01 Micron hence Water pressure/Volume definitely lower at POU <1.5bar = REDUCTION IN WATER PRESSURE

3) The reason why UF need to flush twice a day and backwash once every 2 week is to not let the UF clogged = EASILY Gets CLOGGED

FYI, we can add an angle valve to reduce the flow if you wan to talk about increasing the effectiveness of POU in reducing chlorine. Why do we need to get UF to purposely to lower down the pressure just to increase the effectiveness of POU, while a single and cheap angle valve can do the same job?

yup 3M is very small and does not require backwash, very suitable for condo. However, before installation, nd to check with management as well. For more info, jus drop by our showroom
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without the outdoor filter the indoor one will get clogged fast unless ur water is clean. Checked culligan and it seems to be similar to 3M AP Easy Complete but at a sligtly lower price. However, the undermount installation tap is not included (usually cost RM 80), replacement cartridge price is ard rm 150+ more expensive than 3M and capacity is 500gal while 3M is 750gal (50% more)

If you would like to know more, why not drop by our showroom for best price

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it is possible to install outdoor filter provided your water meter is exposed or there is sufficient space to install in the meter room and your management allows u to install.

Here is a photo of 3M AP902 installed in a condo
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seems like there are many sales person trying to promote their products here, just wanna share that 3M will no longer have their bundle package promotion for AP902 with AP Easy Complete or DWS1000 starting from this month. So, if u wanna get it do get it quick when stock runs out, then no more package price.

For outstation customers, we can courier the product to your doorstep for FREE

actually there is a lot of info online and also in lowyat forum, u jus nd to read but may b there are too many pages, here is one i dig back out


https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+680

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jul 17 2014, 09:51 PM


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Great, c u then our current Raya Promotion is more attractive than the Standard Raya Combo by 3M

hi ethanhan, i think u overlook my link and attached catalog (page 72). As discussed previously, definitely u need to replace the sand after sometime. The logic that they say no nd to change, is bcoz the sand will not spoil but if u don service it or replace the sand, the filtration will not b as clean as when it is brand new. I m selling Perfect Steel which is the same spec as per Alphamax (from what i was told Alphamax is OEM by Perfect Steel) as shown the catalog wordings, they are the same as well. So, why alphamax does not require replacement while my Perfect Steel need?

U can PM me, we can courier 3M water filters to MELAKA for FREE. Our current promo package is more attractive than the 3M Raya Combo

Just cold

aeiou228 : Not all filters with NSF 42 & 53 are exp, 3M AP Easy Complete is quite cheap as well. If u factor in the shipping cost, tax and etc of your culligan filter, 3M AP easy Complete would b cheaper. U got it cheap bcoz it was brought back by your relative. However, it would b troublesome to get the replacement and also no after sales support here in malaysia.