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akira982443
post Apr 28 2014, 05:15 AM

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Any user here owns a Hitachi BD-W85SV? How was it?
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post Apr 28 2014, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(akira982443 @ Apr 28 2014, 05:15 AM)
Any user here owns a Hitachi BD-W85SV? How was it?
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I just order W85SV deliver today, will keep update on the status since few user here asking for same model.
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post Apr 28 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 28 2014, 11:09 AM)
I just order W85SV deliver today, will keep update on the status since few user here asking for same model.
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thanks. Will wait for your input
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Decide to stick with old faithful, till the day she truly dies nod.gif


Bosch.....My parents used to go euro for almost everything until it was time to service them.

I only have experience about their heavy equipment, even the techs agree with me that they are less durable after they moved ops to China. Might be different with home electrics division, for me its always best to talk to their spares/tech dpt to get an idea.
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post Apr 28 2014, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Apr 25 2014, 01:12 AM)
bought this model, using for 2 months already.....after deciding for a few months TL or FL etc, jap or kor or eu...

u can check some of my earlier post...
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Can I know where you bought your unit from? TQ
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post Apr 28 2014, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(skyegal79 @ Apr 28 2014, 03:07 PM)
Can I know where you bought your unit from? TQ
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tbc electrik ....
mcloudteo
post Apr 28 2014, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 5 2014, 11:43 PM)
Inverter and direct drive two separate features. Inverter motor but not necessarily inverter direct drive.

Bosch newer models has quieter brushless dc motor (BLDC) that it touts to be quiter and -30% energy consuming. Electrolux 2012 models already have inverter but may not be direct drive esp the 10kg one.

I recommend and lean towards separate washer and dryer. No joke, wash load reduced to dryer capacity then dry takes a long long while 3-4 hours. If got other loads have to wait. If insisting of a combo, the LGWD-1279RDS7 17/9kg would be the one to go for large family loads at only 5.2l/kg as shown here

If you want efficient dryer, Panasonic 8kg and Electrolux 9kg uses 900W with heat pump condensing dryer vs 2700-2800W of condenser dryers. That can be off the same plug as the washer whereas if using the 2700W it has to be separately dedicated 13A if washer and dryer are used simultaneously. Boschalso has an 8kg condenser dryer that's quite energy saving.

Hitachi I can vouch its 42db during spin cycle relative to older conventional washers and definitely reduced my water usage per month. Also has tub clean function.

If you want to compare water usage and electricity usage look for it at either SG PUB or HK EMD energy and water labeling scheme site. This info convinced me to get the Hitachi 8kg front loader with inverter direct drive.
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which model you using? can share how is the performance?
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post Apr 28 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 26 2014, 12:26 PM)
Just did window shopping at SenQ while my wife doing her shopping in Jusco.
See the price of Electrolux FL, most of the models starting price are > rm23** and capacity of 7-8KG. And see that they are boasting that it only consume 8-8.5l water per kg. So it uses maximum of 68l of water under full load.
Then I check out current TL models, a 10kg only cost rm13**-14** and uses 60-70l of water.
So when comparing both on full load, TL actually save more water as 1kg only need 6-7l of water.
Electrolux FL do have a model that uses 7.5l, but it cost rm35**.
So to save 0.5l of water I need to pay extra rm1000. If I wash daily, 30 days run I only save 0.5*3(wash and rinse 3 times)*30=45l of water. In Seremban, 1000l of water only cost rm0.50.
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But it is not apple to apple comparison as front load normally comes with hot water wash and also water pump so that your drain pipe can put higher icon_idea.gif
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while deciding for a new washer...

i have watched a few videos on utube how FL works,

i have noticed that...

wetting the clothes in the drum is a time consuming job, as show in the vid...

cos FL dont fill the drum with water like TL...

depending on the brand of the washer, the water normally is hosed into the drum

from a small outlet...

so if a big load like in this vid... it will take a long time to effectively wet and

soak the clothes in detergent...

hence... company like samsung came out with this bubble maker, that is suppose to

wet the clothes faster,,,

and panasonic has this hydroactive multi directional 5 shower jets in the FL washer.

the way FL washes, i notice, the clothes packed in the middle, takes a long time to move out side...

so that is y it takes longer washing time...

n if u wash this much clothes ( like in this vid )

all those 'macam-macam' motion by LG, are kinda useless.... biggrin.gif

the clothes won't move anywhere cos its so packed..

and it is not yet the max weight...



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QUOTE(lemon_girl @ Apr 14 2014, 04:32 PM)
anyone using Sharp hole-less washing machine, can share your experience?
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i did notice this hole less sharp...

but when their latest model has got holes...

most likely something is not that right with being hole less.... hmm.gif biggrin.gif
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post Apr 28 2014, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 28 2014, 10:09 PM)
But it is not apple to apple comparison as front load normally comes with hot water wash and also water pump so that your drain pipe can put higher  icon_idea.gif
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Well, if savings on $$$ are a concern, FL shall not be considered at the beginning, heating up water need power and power need money.
Anyway, I could be wrong on comparing like this, but water usage, time needed and power consumption are something I want to see and compare hmm.gif

QUOTE(H2D @ Apr 28 2014, 10:52 PM)
while deciding for a new washer...

i have watched a few videos on utube how FL works,

i have noticed that...
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When comparing both TL and FL, I never noticed on the time needed. Currently my TL need 30-40 minutes for full 10KG load.
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post Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(akira982443 @ Apr 28 2014, 11:13 AM)
thanks. Will wait for your input
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Report report just received my Hitachi W85SV today (although suppose to be yesterday but thing happened), run two cycle so far, first is the cotton circle without any clothing suggest by the manual to rinse out residue and water during manufacturing, everything is ok, the pump definitely not silence and during high speed spinning 1200rpm is like jet engine sound (similar sound but not as loud as jet engine).

after I watched the video someone posted here for Samsung below, compare to W85SV, W85SV sound a lot better as samsung seem louder and high pitch noise.





Second cycle I wash 5 long sleeve shirts, 5 t-shirts, 1 short pant, 4 single bed sheets, 4 pillow cases, 1 bolster case and 2 towels at once using cotton cycle tongue.gif washing cycle very silent as usual I think this is common with most of the modern washing machine motor nowadays, rinse cycle pump noisy, spin cycle like jet engine sound.

vibration wise although it never dance tongue.gif but during the spin cycle at 1200rpm it's not as good as the video show below If I stack the wine glass like the one in the video on my W85SV I am sure it will fall, maybe because of 4 bed sheets I throw inside hard to balance.




will report more once I run more cycle on this machine.

This post has been edited by mcloudteo: Apr 29 2014, 05:28 PM
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post Apr 29 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
Report report just received my Hitachi W85SV today (although suppose to be yesterday but thing happened), run two cycle so far, first is the cotton circle without any clothing suggest by the manual to rinse out residue and water during manufacturing, everything is ok, the pump definitely not silence and during high speed spinning 1200rpm is like jet engine sound (similar sound but not as loud as jet engine).

after I watched the video someone posted here for Samsung below, compare to W85SV, W85SV sound a lot better as samsung seem louder and high pitch noise.


Second cycle I wash 5 long sleeve shirts, 5 t-shirts, 1 short pant, 4 single bed sheets, 4 pillow cases, 1 bolster case and 2 towels at once using cotton cycle  tongue.gif  washing cycle very silent as usual I think this is common with most of the modern washing machine motor nowadays, rinse cycle pump noisy, spin cycle like jet engine sound.

vibration wise although it never dance  tongue.gif but during the spin cycle at 1200rpm it's not as good as the video show below If I stack the wine glass like the one in the video on my W85SV I am sure it will fall,  maybe because of 4 bed sheets I throw inside hard to balance.


will report more once I run more cycle on this machine.
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Did you check the level of the machine and also try to see if any of the four legs are vibrating during spin and adjust them accordingly, this will lower the vibration.

This post has been edited by dayalan86: Apr 29 2014, 05:58 PM
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post Apr 29 2014, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
Report report just received my Hitachi W85SV today (although suppose to be yesterday but thing happened), run two cycle so far, first is the cotton circle without any clothing suggest by the manual to rinse out residue and water during manufacturing, everything is ok, the pump definitely not silence and during high speed spinning 1200rpm is like jet engine sound (similar sound but not as loud as jet engine).

after I watched the video someone posted here for Samsung below, compare to W85SV, W85SV sound a lot better as samsung seem louder and high pitch noise.


Second cycle I wash 5 long sleeve shirts, 5 t-shirts, 1 short pant, 4 single bed sheets, 4 pillow cases, 1 bolster case and 2 towels at once using cotton cycle  tongue.gif  washing cycle very silent as usual I think this is common with most of the modern washing machine motor nowadays, rinse cycle pump noisy, spin cycle like jet engine sound.

vibration wise although it never dance  tongue.gif but during the spin cycle at 1200rpm it's not as good as the video show below If I stack the wine glass like the one in the video on my W85SV I am sure it will fall,  maybe because of 4 bed sheets I throw inside hard to balance.


will report more once I run more cycle on this machine.
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Ya, looking forward your testing without such heavy load, and maybe at a lower rpm during spin?? the spin is adjustable right?
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post Apr 29 2014, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 28 2014, 08:46 PM)
which model you using? can share how is the performance?
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BD-W80MV - Japan imported. 1400rpm spin is not loud by my definition as compared to older non-inverter belt driven motor.

Tip: Just use the forum feature 'Show post by this member only' to read up on earlier posts.

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 28 2014, 11:47 PM)
Well, if savings on $$$ are a concern, FL shall not be considered at the beginning, heating up water need power and power need money.
Anyway, I could be wrong on comparing like this, but water usage, time needed and power consumption are something I want to see and compare hmm.gif 
When comparing both TL and FL, I never noticed on the time needed. Currently my TL need 30-40 minutes for full 10KG load.
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Yup, heating up water indeed required a lot of power, but it maybe needed for baby clothing, or some other stubborn stains. It is an added feature which I think may come in handy once n a while
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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
Report report just received my Hitachi W85SV today (although suppose to be yesterday but thing happened), run two cycle so far, first is the cotton circle without any clothing suggest by the manual to rinse out residue and water during manufacturing, everything is ok, the pump definitely not silence and during high speed spinning 1200rpm is like jet engine sound (similar sound but not as loud as jet engine).

after I watched the video someone posted here for Samsung below, compare to W85SV, W85SV sound a lot better as samsung seem louder and high pitch noise.


Second cycle I wash 5 long sleeve shirts, 5 t-shirts, 1 short pant, 4 single bed sheets, 4 pillow cases, 1 bolster case and 2 towels at once using cotton cycle  tongue.gif  washing cycle very silent as usual I think this is common with most of the modern washing machine motor nowadays, rinse cycle pump noisy, spin cycle like jet engine sound.

vibration wise although it never dance  tongue.gif but during the spin cycle at 1200rpm it's not as good as the video show below If I stack the wine glass like the one in the video on my W85SV I am sure it will fall,  maybe because of 4 bed sheets I throw inside hard to balance.


will report more once I run more cycle on this machine.
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I think that is commercial lo...at 1200rpm, it will vibrate.
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 29 2014, 09:50 PM)
Yup, heating up water indeed required a lot of power, but it maybe needed for baby clothing, or some other stubborn stains. It is an added feature which I think may come in handy once n a while
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Actually warm water are quite damaging to rubber seal sweat.gif
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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 29 2014, 09:55 PM)
Actually warm water are quite damaging to rubber seal sweat.gif
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Ooo blink.gif I don't know that... hmmm hmm.gif the engineer of the washing machine will not design using too lousy plastic I guess, else it it leaks... then complaint kao kao... but I target washing machine life span to be 7 years... so... already entering year 4 now rclxms.gif . Keep my finger crossed
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Apr 29 2014, 08:34 PM)
BD-W80MV - Japan imported. 1400rpm spin is not loud by my definition as compared to older non-inverter belt driven motor.

Tip: Just use the forum feature 'Show post by this member only' to read up on earlier posts.
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I uploaded a video I don't know whether this consider loud or not.

I put up a glass of water can see the vibration through the water, the pump on and off the whole video can hear clearly, at the end of the video the spinning noise like not balance vibrate a lot.





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