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post Apr 24 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(lot101 @ Apr 24 2014, 11:57 AM)
hmmm lets see the relevance of your face palm...did it hurt ?  laugh.gif

Can be warm, its just to get the detergent to work harder. Thats what a chemical engineer I trust said, and I believe you can find more data on the net regarding this.

hot/warm water = less detergent = lower rinse cycle = less water.  less cycle = less power.

Which a lot of manufacturers take into account by using different incoming data like weight, water temperature etc etc.

Old skoolers who wash by hand for more times then the electricity gets cut would know what I mean.
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It is still depending to type of cloths we are washing. And I'm using natural warm water(as the water tank are exposed to hot sun, but will be cold water if raining season).
The strategy I'm using now is, when washing with detergent, I use 12l of water lesser(since the selector only 12, 24, 36, 48, 60). Then rinsing will add back the 12l.
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post Apr 24 2014, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 24 2014, 12:02 PM)
It is still depending to type of cloths we are washing. And I'm using natural warm water(as the water tank are exposed to hot sun, but will be cold water if raining season).
The strategy I'm using now is, when washing with detergent, I use 12l of water lesser(since the selector only 12, 24, 36, 48, 60). Then rinsing will add back the 12l.
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For me everything goes into the machine, if its delicate then it goes into a mesh bag (I have a lot of mesh bags). If its dry care, it will get intoxicated at my fav dry cleaner who is too far away or if I get too lazy it goes into the machine and I press dry care.

Any ways, I am just asking if there are any other top loaders which are efficient or even more efficient and durable..
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post Apr 24 2014, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(lot101 @ Apr 24 2014, 12:40 PM)
For me everything goes into the machine, if its delicate then it goes into a mesh bag (I have a lot of mesh bags). If its dry care, it will get intoxicated at my fav dry cleaner who is too far away or if I get too lazy it goes into the machine and I press dry care. 

Any ways, I am just asking if there are any other top loaders which are efficient or even more efficient and durable..
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Efficient in terms of hmm.gif
Durable I can't really say, as if the WM can last for 10 years, they won't able to make money from you for the next 10 years. If manufacturers got this in mind, then it won't last long whistling.gif
What I notice is, if don't put it to max load, it can last longer.
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post Apr 24 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(lot101 @ Apr 24 2014, 12:40 PM)
For me everything goes into the machine, if its delicate then it goes into a mesh bag (I have a lot of mesh bags). If its dry care, it will get intoxicated at my fav dry cleaner who is too far away or if I get too lazy it goes into the machine and I press dry care. 

Any ways, I am just asking if there are any other top loaders which are efficient or even more efficient and durable..
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Top loader is never water savers
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post Apr 24 2014, 10:43 PM

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I hate top loader all my cloth tangle together. my shirt went from L to XXL lolz
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(lot101 @ Apr 24 2014, 10:48 AM)
My old washing machine refuse to die. Made in Japan Sanyo ASWU 100T lets see it followed me from the old apartment about 15 years, it developed a defect about 5 years ago. At the end of the cycle it does not stop completely and the clunk noise when its suppose to stop. Repair cost about rm700/=. I can live it that anomaly so I left it.

The problems I had with it was mainly the owners manuals were all in Nippon  blink.gif

Now I am looking for something newer.

Prerequisites are :

a) low water consumption

b) low power consumption

c) hot water function

d) as durable as my old Sanyo

The one I am looking at is LG WF-HX120GV, LG site says it uses 16 liters of water per cycle I find this unbelievable.
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You have to becarefull with low water usage. There is possibility that the detergent cannot wash away througly. Specially if full load and too much detergent. I always have to press "extra rinse" and " add water" function to rinse more. After I always get rash and itchy skin. I m using combo LG.

Even I use more water on every wash, the water consumption is still low. I still get free water since 6yrs ago. The power consumption is low too even it is 12kg big size. And with the dryer once or twice a mth. My bill still below RM70.

Most of the new tech WM is pretty good at save energy. Get a latest tech and bigger size. Your ROI will get back fast.
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QUOTE(lot101 @ Apr 24 2014, 10:48 AM)

The one I am looking at is LG WF-HX120GV, LG site says it uses 16 liters of water per cycle I find this unbelievable.
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bought this model, using for 2 months already.....after deciding for a few months TL or FL etc, jap or kor or eu...

u can check some of my earlier post...
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post Apr 25 2014, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 24 2014, 10:43 PM)
I hate top loader all my cloth tangle together. my shirt went from L to XXL lolz
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Really?! rclxub.gif never had that problem. Been using for more 10 years now (whirlpool).
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post Apr 25 2014, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 24 2014, 10:23 PM)
Top loader is never water savers
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That's right, but considering the price difference and maintenance cost(don't really research front loader), I guess using some "extra" water are not much an issue.
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post Apr 25 2014, 10:03 AM

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anyone uses Panasonic front load NA-148VG3.

my mum said electrical shop in hometown told her that this model is no longer in the production anymore.

asked me to look for another model. Any recommendation for price range RM2.5k?
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post Apr 25 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Apr 25 2014, 10:03 AM)
anyone uses Panasonic front load NA-148VG3.

my mum said electrical shop in hometown told her that this model is no longer in the production anymore.

asked me to look for another model. Any recommendation for price range RM2.5k?
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Panasonic updates their front loader models almost every year! I wonder if they really do change anything or just cosmetic changes smile.gif

For 2.5k, you can try looking at Hitachi. Some lower end Electrolux is also around that price range.
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post Apr 25 2014, 11:16 AM

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anyone can suggest for FL WM budget below rm2000. Prefer japan brand rather than the continental. Now considering the Hitachi Washing Machine BD-W75SSP . Anybody had experience use that model?
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QUOTE(mentalkronik @ Apr 25 2014, 11:16 AM)
anyone can suggest for FL WM budget below rm2000. Prefer japan brand rather than the continental. Now considering the Hitachi Washing Machine BD-W75SSP . Anybody had experience use that model?
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why never consider Hitachi BD-W85SV?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 25 2014, 12:34 AM)
You have to becarefull with low water usage. There is possibility that the detergent cannot wash away througly. Specially if full load and too much detergent. I always have to press "extra rinse" and " add water" function to rinse more. After I always get rash and itchy skin. I m using combo LG.

Even I use more water on every wash, the water consumption is still low. I still get free water since 6yrs ago. The power consumption is low too even it is 12kg big size. And with the dryer once or twice a mth. My bill still below RM70.

Most of the new tech WM is pretty good at save energy. Get a latest tech and bigger size. Your ROI will get back fast.
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Yup, need to put just enough detergent. And front loader need special low sud detergent. I need to educate and enforce my mum on how to operate it at first as she always think that no "buih" not clean. But now... yup, the front loader works great thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 25 2014, 07:19 PM)
Yup, need to put just enough detergent. And front loader need special low sud detergent. I need to educate and enforce my mum on how to operate it at first as she always think that no "buih" not clean. But now... yup, the front loader works great thumbup.gif
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If you want a lot of buih then get Samsung Eco bubble tongue.gif a lot of bubble for you rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ Apr 25 2014, 09:24 PM)
If you want a lot of buih then get Samsung Eco bubble  tongue.gif  a lot of bubble for you  rclxms.gif
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LOL i like ur comment "buih" rclxms.gif

Wondering how does the buih really works? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Apr 25 2014, 01:21 AM)
Really?!  rclxub.gif never had that problem. Been using for more 10 years now (whirlpool).
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Yup. It did happen to my old Panasonic WM. Those long pant, long sleeve shirt and towel will dangle or lock to each other. Got to untie it after wash. Probably old tech WM.
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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 25 2014, 07:19 PM)
Yup, need to put just enough detergent. And front loader need special low sud detergent. I need to educate and enforce my mum on how to operate it at first as she always think that no "buih" not clean. But now... yup, the front loader works great thumbup.gif
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Yup. Been using low sud since 6yrs ago. Last time use Persil but now change to Top.
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post Apr 26 2014, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Apr 25 2014, 07:19 PM)
Yup, need to put just enough detergent. And front loader need special low sud detergent. I need to educate and enforce my mum on how to operate it at first as she always think that no "buih" not clean. But now... yup, the front loader works great thumbup.gif
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Just did window shopping at SenQ while my wife doing her shopping in Jusco.
See the price of Electrolux FL, most of the models starting price are > rm23** and capacity of 7-8KG. And see that they are boasting that it only consume 8-8.5l water per kg. So it uses maximum of 68l of water under full load.
Then I check out current TL models, a 10kg only cost rm13**-14** and uses 60-70l of water.
So when comparing both on full load, TL actually save more water as 1kg only need 6-7l of water.
Electrolux FL do have a model that uses 7.5l, but it cost rm35**.
So to save 0.5l of water I need to pay extra rm1000. If I wash daily, 30 days run I only save 0.5*3(wash and rinse 3 times)*30=45l of water. In Seremban, 1000l of water only cost rm0.50.

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post Apr 26 2014, 09:08 PM

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went to electrical shop to check out the prices of Hitachi FL WM.

the prices surprisingly lower than my expectation for BD-W75SSP (7.5KG, 1,000RPM) - RM1,xxx.

BD-W75SV (7.5KG,1600 rpm) prices jumped to RM1,xxx
BD-W85SV (8.5KG ) prices RM2,xxx (RM800 more with increase of 1kg capacity)

Then, the staff promote Bosch FLWM 7kg, selling RM1,xxx which theWM made in EU.
Anyone have experience with Bosch FL WM?

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