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pizzaboy
post Jul 15 2008, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(gtoforce @ Jul 13 2008, 01:10 AM)
err...seriously wat attitude?
im just giving away opinion...
wat if i try rippetoe and it didnt work
lets just say that is the case...then where do i go
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Rippetoe'll work relatively well with most people, at the beginner levels. Problem is at higher levels, it becomes ridiculously difficult to complete a beginner's routine because the weight progression pace has increased to a level that's only adaptable to beginners or genetic freaks. Can't understand?

For a beginner who just started with 100LBS, it's much easier for him/her to progress to 200LBS;
Compared to a veteran trainee who's been lifting 500LBS to move to 600LBS.

See what I'm getting to? If you can complete a beginner's routine (which is incidentally or IRONICALLY, what you'll notice in more advanced training progs, it becomes more simple, with either higher volume or more weights) you'll find yourself breaking a tremendous plateau.

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post Jul 15 2008, 07:22 PM

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Tried out Rippetoe's workout A today as suggested. started off light


Bench Press
3x5 55 kg


Squats
3x5 100 lbs


Deadlift
3x5 80 lbs


Pull-Ups
3x8 bodyweight


Decline Ab Crunches
3x10 25 lbs


any comments?
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post Jul 16 2008, 10:10 AM

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you........have a phenomenal bench compared to the rest of your lifts.
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post Jul 16 2008, 10:44 AM

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Same here, I can bench more than I can squat:). Perhaps that I am still new to squats..
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post Jul 16 2008, 11:07 AM

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work on your squats, your deadlift and bench will go up
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post Jul 16 2008, 06:35 PM

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Benching more than you squat is not something to be proud of, it means something is seriously wrong.
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post Jul 16 2008, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Jul 16 2008, 06:35 PM)
Benching more than you squat is not something to be proud of, it means something is seriously wrong.
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hahaha maybe i didnt attempt to try more weight on squats
but you see, i've been benching once a week for almost 6 months.
i'll try more on the squats tmrw



as of today, i went for a short arm and ab workout


Hammer Curls 5x10, 20 lbs

Standing DB Curls 5x10, 25 lbs

Tricep Pullovers 5x10, 35 lbs

Tricep Pushdown 5x10, 60 lbs

Decline Ab Crunches 5x12, 25 lbs

Leg Raises 5x20
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post Jul 16 2008, 08:15 PM

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Yeah you haven't been squatting frequently so I guess that explains the situation. My comment wasn't aimed at you though, it was aimed at the other guy, sorry if you were offended.

I thought you're on Rippetoes?
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post Jul 16 2008, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Jul 16 2008, 08:15 PM)
Yeah you haven't been squatting frequently so I guess that explains the situation. My comment wasn't aimed at you though, it was aimed at the other guy, sorry if you were offended.

I thought you're on Rippetoes?
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haha nono, its fine. none taken

but yeah, i didnt do any proper arm workout, so i wasnt really satisfied. haha
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post Jul 16 2008, 09:27 PM

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Dude, seriously?

Please don't mess with the program. That's the problem with everyone, they think they need 982137 curls for big arms.

Do you know that to put on 1 inch of muscle on your arms, you need to gain around 15lbs of muscle all over your body?

Compound exercises = big arms. Until you reach a very advanced stage, there is no need for you to have a whole day to train arms. If you are really stubborn, just add in 3 sets of curls each time you train.
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Jul 16 2008, 06:35 PM)
Benching more than you squat is not something to be proud of, it means something is seriously wrong.
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Haha, I am not proud or whatsoever with it biggrin.gif....it is my first time doing squats too tongue.gif tat is why my weights are so light...

wat if a guy only train his arms? does he need 15lbs all over his body in order to gain 1 inch? curious....

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post Jul 16 2008, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Jul 16 2008, 09:27 PM)
Dude, seriously?

Please don't mess with the program. That's the problem with everyone, they think they need 982137 curls for big arms.

Do you know that to put on 1 inch of muscle on your arms, you need to gain around 15lbs of muscle all over your body?

Compound exercises = big arms. Until you reach a very advanced stage, there is no need for you to have a whole day to train arms. If you are really stubborn, just add in 3 sets of curls each time you train.
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oh i never knew that, thanks for the heads up. will be back to the program tmrw
but wait, i dont get how it works actually. there is a workout A and B right? so how i go about this?
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Jul 16 2008, 10:01 PM)
Haha, I am not proud or whatsoever with it biggrin.gif....it is my first time doing squats too tongue.gif tat is why my weights are so light...

wat if a guy only train his arms? does he need 15lbs all over his body in order to gain 1 inch? curious....
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No matter what, you still need 15lbs all over your body. If that wasn't the case, those people who curl 2837 times a week will have the biggest biceps ever

QUOTE(veekster @ Jul 16 2008, 11:28 PM)
oh i never knew that, thanks for the heads up. will be back to the program tmrw
but wait, i dont get how it works actually. there is a workout A and B right? so how i go about this?
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You are supposed to train on 3 non-consecutive days a week. So let's say Monday Wednesday and Friday, Monday workout A, Wednesday workout B, Friday workout A, next Monday workout B etc etc
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post Jul 17 2008, 09:46 AM

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If I'm not mistaken..Rippetoe's program is something like:

Week I
Monday - A
Wednesday - B
Friday - A

Week II

Monday - B
Wednesday - A
Friday - B

Week III
Follow 1st week
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QUOTE(veekster @ Jul 16 2008, 07:33 PM)
hahaha maybe i didnt attempt to try more weight on squats
but you see, i've been benching once a week for almost 6 months.
i'll try more on the squats tmrw
as of today, i went for a short arm and ab workout
Hammer Curls 5x10, 20 lbs

Standing DB Curls 5x10, 25 lbs

Tricep Pullovers 5x10, 35 lbs

Tricep Pushdown 5x10, 60 lbs

Decline Ab Crunches 5x12, 25 lbs

Leg Raises 5x20
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Yoh...so many isolation exercises....why you want the pump is it?

It's not really necessary. Furthermore the concern will be more about, how well can you perform next in your upcoming workouts?
I'd rather not go about more isolation workouts, maybe just a few bicep curls and dumbbell pullovers, won't hurt but that's about it.
Pull-ups are okay though tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2008, 07:47 PM

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well, back to rippetoe's workout program tmrw

Gonna start on Workout B

anyways i have a question, can i use the smith machine to do my standing military press?

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post Jul 21 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(veekster @ Jul 20 2008, 07:47 PM)
well, back to rippetoe's workout program tmrw

Gonna start on Workout B

anyways i have a question, can i use the smith machine to do my standing military press?
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I explain to you how this works alright?

Your delts is meant to move 360 degrees. Try rotating your shoulders, see they move in a full circular motion right?

But the smith machine, only moves up and down.

Restricting isn't it if for your delts?
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post Jul 21 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 21 2008, 09:36 AM)
I explain to you how this works alright?

Your delts is meant to move 360 degrees. Try rotating your shoulders, see they move in a full circular motion right?

But the smith machine, only moves up and down.

Restricting isn't it if for your delts?
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Listen to him.

And never use the smith machine
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post Jul 21 2008, 07:40 PM

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thanks for the advice guys smile.gif appreciate it

anyways, just came back from gym. here is what I did today


Rippetoe Workout B


Dips
5x5, Bodyweight


Penlay Rows
3x5, 90 lbs


Squats
3x5, 114 lbs


Standing Barbell Military Press
3x5, 40 lbs


Pull-Ups
I tried to add 15 lbs, and i could only do one. hahaha so it was back to bodyweight
5x5, Bodyweight


Decline Ab Crunches
3x10, 25 lbs plate


Leg Raises
3x10
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post Jul 21 2008, 08:16 PM

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hey. squat first please. follow what rippetoe says

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