That's called power adapter and is usually heavy and doesn't have many type of pins. I meant the ones with many type of pins, the "universal travel adapter".



I actually own that.

How much is this Oppo BDP-83 and Dune? Which is a better unit?

What I meant is this
used it before in taiwan which is 110V

this word of 'universal' really causing ppl

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Added on August 5, 2009, 9:37 amerr... I have no idea
I do not own anyone of these


This post has been edited by robinlim: Aug 5 2009, 09:37 AM

If you use it with your phone's power adapter it should be fine as they're usually 110-240v.

I used it for my handycam there as well
as long as the power adaptor of the device can accept 100V~240V range
u can use it anywhere in the world

Oppo BD83 is USD499 and SGD999 (with region free mod).

Dune was USD499 (up till July31) and USD599 now. It can be bought in Spore as well.

When you say better, what do you mean? What are you looking for?

Dune is more of a Media Player with a BD drive. It uses Sigma Designs SOC. It plays almost all formats and supports E-sata. It is aimed at a different market.

Oppo is a BD player with limited media capabilities. It uses ABT VRS chip. It has superior deinterlacing and scaling.

deinterlacing and scaling -> more of a DVD feature.. as most commercial BD release is 1080p...

For sure, but it depends on what the person needs. If it is used for only BD, then i think the Panny BD60 is good enuf.

ar188,
I have seen some BD players even mess up 1080p/24fps signals.

I left out some other stuff, but if you are interested there is a colour space conversion as well.

BD is encoded in YCbCr 4:2:0.

All BD players need to do some colour space conversion.

The signal needs to be converted and sent out in YCbCr 4:2:2 , 4:4:4, RGB 0-255 or RGB 16-235.

Some chips do this very badly. Some convert the signal to RGB then reconvert to YCbCr. Some do the other way.

Some of the other things that a BD player needs to do is chroma upscaling error detection/correction and if necessary frame rate conversion and progressive signal reprocessing.

As I said earlier, some BD players convert a 24Hz signal to a 60Hz signal and then reconvert it to 24Hz. I know fo 2 players that do this and they mess it up.

BD players are different. Its just that it will not be noticeable unless you look closely. It is more prominent in displays that exceed 60inches.

Thankfully, the PS3 is a very good BD player in terms of PQ. Most BD players get the stuff almost 90% right. The 10% wrong people don't normally see unless they look.

The Dune is one heck of a set, I would like to get my hands on one to test out its capabilities. If you are viewing media, one thing that is important is the ability to handle non standard cadences. The Oppo does this well even though it is not touted as a media player. I want to test the Dunes capabilites of handling odd cadences to see how if fares.

Will you see all this on a BD? No, so if all u need is a BD player, save ur money and get a Panny BD60! It will keep u satisfied for many years to come.

even though the above symptoms and video artifacts sounds bad like chroma bug etc, in most cases people don't really notice them.. they just show up when playing test discs or only on certain movie discs at certain parts of the movie. main upgrades like full HD TV or projector will bring more improvement to visual quality than nitpicking on the current crop of BD player's minor visual flaws..

hence why I said the oppo doesn't really bring much food to the table compared to a RM900 BD60... cos 90-95% of the time the image comes out just well (using BD-60 as reference compared to oppo) especially with people using 42-50 inch screens..
while a dune is totally different set of capabilities although it's within USD100 price range from this oppo while probably within the same 90-95% visual performance of standard BD players like BD-60..

Bro, mind telling us which 2 players? Just curious.

By the way, great informative post as usual.

suddenly all u guys sound like from the bluray industry itself

yes, I also recall some players do that..

anyway, anfield is sifu with many insights....

We're early adopters bro, we have to know all these to feel good about it. Most of us learn about it the hard way, thanks for our LYN community here that we got to share our knowledge and experience.

Too bad you're no longer a serious BD supporter, as you're one of the earliest BD adopters really.

TVIX considered from blu-ray industry or not?

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Added on August 5, 2009, 11:12 amwhat is there to "support" anymore? last time support cos there was format war, and BD won.. now just take own sweet time to get good deals... no need to rush anymore , but that's just me la..

This post has been edited by ar188: Aug 5 2009, 11:12 AM

aiman... gone were the days...

im with ar188, its boring liao
even all this player, there really aint anything innovative, the only one i see so far that i can really praise it, is the dune player

the rest are all the same, end of the day still the hd audio thing la, 24p la, nothing new

I'm planning to download HD movies from net to my laptop/desktop, then play them. How should I set it up in order to enjoy the HD capabilities? Do I need a Dune, Oppo or BD60?

To clarify matters, the pic above is solely a Universal Adaptor only which does not has any electrical circuits (or does it have circuits)but
have various retractable adaptor legs to suit different countries only ( that's y its called UNIVERSAL adaptor, and it [color=red]does not support any AC conversion )
then you have to check your AC adaptor which voltge it supports

a true Universal AC adaptor always with a two pin and supports 110V~220V

This post has been edited by moomoos: Aug 5 2009, 12:11 PM

wah... open challenge??

sorry,brothers, if were to get the OPPO 83 in singapore wats the tax scale like
Thanks

if drive thru customs, straight forward, 30%