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 Chubby Hamsters V9, Rolling Fat Furballs.

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post Jul 5 2008, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jul 5 2008, 12:40 AM)
I don't really have the dimensions for a 2 feet tank but it is enough space for 1 syrian.

If you want bigger then you need to decide on the zoozone 1 or the biggest is zoozone 2 (3 feet tank).

I would recommend a zoozone1 as it is more than enough for 1 syrian. Me and sangels have zoozone2 for our syrian JackJack. It's huge! sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

Or you can do what Neshie did for her sable banded syrian, buy a huge storage box and modify it with ventalation holes, etc... You can see some pics of it in the last couple of pages. This is also an inexpensive way to get a bigger home for your soon to be coming syrian.
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LOL it took me hours just to saw the rectangular thingy thingy in that cage (cause i didn't have proper equipments)
I will be removing that metal bars cause he chews em alot. Any idea what to replace for better ventilation? He has an ugly spot on his nose with all that chewing he's done. sweat.gif

QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jul 5 2008, 12:49 AM)
JackJack used to stay in a 2 feet tank with a Sanko 21cm Silent Wheel. He so smart till he is able to climb up to top of the wheel using the side of the tank and wheel. He would then start biting at the lid of the 2 feet tank trying to escape. That's when me and sangels decided to get something bigger for him to stay in. Bought the zoozone2 for PetsMore Cheras after that.

Zoozone2 got less chance to climb up the wheel. But nowadays he have been trying new tactics to escape for the Zoozone2. He will climb on top of hideout,wooden bridge, etc and jump up to reach higher. I can tell you that JackJack can jump more than 50% of his height standing on his 2 feet. sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Ocha can climb on the bloody wodent wheel!! shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
Thank goodness i have something to cover the cage or else he'd go missing in no time. sweat.gif

QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 5 2008, 01:56 AM)
My black banded boy likes to sit inside his toilet and just day dream. Cute. Now he got longish fur around his bum, like a skirt.

Anyway, I was looking at Garage Sales.... kinda mad with people saying Syrians can be kept in pairs or group. The latest reply was plain wrong....
Don't you guys think this kinda advice is wrong?

Put 5 Syrians in 1 small cage of course they don't fight much coz no territory but they dislike living together. Is like making them suffer.... They do fight, just people dunno coz hamsters are active when we are asleep most of the time......
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oh my goodness. Not another one. First Terrysoh and now her? shocking.gif
That's like total crap.

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quite agree with u laa...but i not mix my syrian..coz stil afford to buy each cage for each hammy...


hmm...coz.like people..some like to be lonely...some like to be around others...n some happy live lonely..some cannot...

hamster also can be like that...mayb ur hamster a bit lucky..can stay together de...

i also experience see some one raise golden hammy 8yrs ago...he kept about 5 in 1 tank...happily ever after..never fight...no see any injured hammy...until the golden hammy is like 50 of them...and the cage is no more than 15...

so...i think not all hamster have solitary soul....like robo...people think they can live in group...but some of the robo may not like live in group...that solitary gak...

dun fire2 people laaa....do what u like laa...if the ham get into fight and later die ke..not ur sin...its the owner sin...the more hammy die, the more the owner's sin...


Hamsters are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT humans! How on earth can you compare humans with hamsters? Hasn't it been said SO many times that hamsters do not have the same feelings as humans?

What does that mean by SOME robo? hmm.gif


like COME ON! stop misleading people. We as animal lovers would wanna give what's best for our hamsters and not the other way round.

So u say that someone raise golden hammy keep 5 in one tank blablablabla, thats going againts the damn fact that hamsters are solitary. Whats the use of researches trying to find out the temperaments and behaviors of hamsters then? They just had their effort thrown away by some misleading information?
Then why not we feed our hamsters chocolate and other HUMAN stuff since they are like "people"?

The whole purpose of teaching other people about the proper way of keeping hamsters is just because we wanna give our best to them and not see them end up being hurt and injured, sick and all. And you're teaching the others bullshit.

If you cant afford to teach others about hamsters,then just keep all the knowledge you have to yourself.
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post Jul 5 2008, 11:08 AM

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If hamsters like human, sure i will talk with it normally and play PS with it.
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post Jul 5 2008, 11:50 AM

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no more peace here lo.....
b4 i talk abt hamster..

1. if u saw o knw a husband n wife fight...
wat u do?
they fight in their own house..
is their business rite?
da most we can do is advice rite?
if they dun wan 2 listen we also cant do much rite?
cox is nt our husband o wife...


2. if da oth way round..
u r 1 of the husband o wife..
happen 2 be fighting over something bt none wan report police..
ppl come advice u 2...
bt u choose nt 2 listen...
then when u go out wif ur fren..
will u tell ur own shame story 2 ur fren?
or maybe strangers?

3. same goes 2 hamster..
if the hamster is unlucky enuf 2 get such owner,
then wat can u do?
same like above...
most can do is advice..
ya.. some ppl mught nt knw they cant do tat
if dun wan listen then enuf..
u had done ur part..
is NOT ur pet o property..

4. if happens tat u think u can keep 2 syrian hamster 2gether n choose 2 do so,
quite similar like point no 2...
if u choose 2 fight wif ur husband o wife,
not need go 2 tell oth ppl tat u can do it..
nth 2 be proud of it...

no offence 2 any1 bt hope 2 c peace here...

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post Jul 5 2008, 12:19 PM

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good day everyone, i keep my robo in habitrail mini but after a few wash on the wheel, the wheel seems not as tight as before or the rubber on top us loosen. It cause the wheel to sway when my hamster running on it. Sometime i see him run so fast than he flipped himself which i feel worry about. Also, this wheel has a empty space in btwn the covers (not sure how to put it but i also worry that he could hurt his feet). Not sure if anyone using Habitral Mini too and does the wheel has any problem like this? Should i be getting new ones? if so, probably those with 8" diameter would do?
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post Jul 5 2008, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(YiaNBoY @ Jul 5 2008, 11:50 AM)
no more peace here lo.....
b4 i talk abt hamster..

1. if u saw o knw a husband n wife fight...
wat u do?
they fight in their own house..
is their business rite?
da most we can do is advice rite?
if they dun wan 2 listen we also cant do much rite?
cox is nt our husband o wife...
2. if da oth way round..
u r 1 of the husband o wife..
happen 2 be fighting over something bt none wan report police..
ppl come advice u 2...
bt u choose nt 2 listen...
then when u go out wif ur fren..
will u tell ur own shame story 2 ur fren?
or maybe strangers?

3. same goes 2 hamster..
if the hamster is unlucky enuf 2 get such owner,
then wat can u do?
same like above...
most can do is advice..
ya.. some ppl mught nt knw they cant do tat
if dun wan listen then enuf..
u had done ur part..
is NOT ur pet o property..

4. if happens tat u think u can keep 2 syrian hamster 2gether n choose 2 do so,
quite similar like point no 2...
if u choose 2 fight wif ur husband o wife,
not need go 2 tell oth ppl tat u can do it..
nth 2 be proud of it...

no offence 2 any1 bt hope 2 c peace here...
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rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif Thanks for your good intention trying to make peace but really don't understand what you mean by all the 1-4 statements. Nothing to do with husband and wife here. Only hamsters and their owners. Only owner can be categorize in good and responsible or stubborn and irresponsible. A lot of silly and innocent people out there without knowledge but as long as the person willing to learn to be better, the person is responsible, the other way round is just irresponsible. Those who know himself is not right and yet refuse to accept advice and insist give wrong information to others is stu***. I know you wanna be good person here but please give some example or scenario which is compatible or suitable in simple language. I hardly understand what you trying to hint to us, maybe Jamien can help to elaborate as her English is much better than mine.
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post Jul 5 2008, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(chiensey @ Jul 5 2008, 12:19 PM)
good day everyone, i keep my robo in habitrail mini but after a few wash on the wheel, the wheel seems not as tight as before or the rubber on top us loosen. It cause the wheel to sway when my hamster running on it. Sometime i see him run so fast than he flipped himself which i feel worry about. Also, this wheel has a empty space in btwn the covers (not sure how to put it but i also worry that he could hurt his feet). Not sure if anyone using Habitral Mini too and does the wheel has any problem like this? Should i be getting new ones? if so, probably those with 8" diameter would do?
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You're having robos... You don't need such a big wheel. But if you can afford it, why not. I had to get a bigger wheel for my robos then cuz they don't like taking turns and all wanna run on it at the same time. This means one poor fella will be pushed out. So I got a bigger wheel and they all can run together.

Jus get a wheel with no gap for their feet to fall out of. Their tiny feet can slip out of the smallest hole~
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post Jul 5 2008, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(chiensey @ Jul 5 2008, 12:19 PM)
good day everyone, i keep my robo in habitrail mini but after a few wash on the wheel, the wheel seems not as tight as before or the rubber on top us loosen. It cause the wheel to sway when my hamster running on it. Sometime i see him run so fast than he flipped himself which i feel worry about. Also, this wheel has a empty space in btwn the covers (not sure how to put it but i also worry that he could hurt his feet). Not sure if anyone using Habitral Mini too and does the wheel has any problem like this? Should i be getting new ones? if so, probably those with 8" diameter would do?
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Don't think a 8" wheel can fit into your Habitrail Mini. So far I didn't remember any 8" wheel can be attached to the Habitrail Mini. You can try to get the Habitrail Safari wheel if you wan. Last time my robos use Habitrail Safari wheel, both of them can run at the same time. But depends on your luck to get that as it already no more in production. Another problem is dunno whether can fix in Habitral Mini or not.
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post Jul 5 2008, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(YiaNBoY @ Jul 5 2008, 11:50 AM)
no more peace here lo.....
b4 i talk abt hamster..

1. if u saw o knw a husband n wife fight...
wat u do?
they fight in their own house..
is their business rite?
da most we can do is advice rite?
if they dun wan 2 listen we also cant do much rite?
cox is nt our husband o wife...
2. if da oth way round..
u r 1 of the husband o wife..
happen 2 be fighting over something bt none wan report police..
ppl come advice u 2...
bt u choose nt 2 listen...
then when u go out wif ur fren..
will u tell ur own shame story 2 ur fren?
or maybe strangers?

3. same goes 2 hamster..
if the hamster is unlucky enuf 2 get such owner,
then wat can u do?
same like above...
most can do is advice..
ya.. some ppl mught nt knw they cant do tat
if dun wan listen then enuf..
u had done ur part..
is NOT ur pet o property..

4. if happens tat u think u can keep 2 syrian hamster 2gether n choose 2 do so,
quite similar like point no 2...
if u choose 2 fight wif ur husband o wife,
not need go 2 tell oth ppl tat u can do it..
nth 2 be proud of it...

no offence 2 any1 bt hope 2 c peace here...
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I don't understand why do you have to compare husband and wives. =/

QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 5 2008, 03:19 PM)
You're having robos... You don't need such a big wheel. But if you can afford it, why not. I had to get a bigger wheel for my robos then cuz they don't like taking turns and all wanna run on it at the same time. This means one poor fella will be pushed out. So I got a bigger wheel and they all can run together.

Jus get a wheel with no gap for their feet to fall out of. Their tiny feet can slip out of the smallest hole~
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Wodent wheel to be exact. tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2008, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(neshie @ Jul 5 2008, 03:27 PM)
I don't understand why do you have to compare husband and wives. =/
Wodent wheel to be exact.  tongue.gif
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Wodent wheel? Sanko wheel also can what. But if he gonna to use both that wheel, means he gonna change the cage to tank already as Habitrail Mini can't fit both of it.
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jul 5 2008, 03:30 PM)
Wodent wheel? Sanko wheel also can what. But if he gonna to use both that wheel, means he gonna change the cage to tank already as Habitrail Mini can't fit both of it.
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Yeah, better to just get a tank. tongue.gif
would hamsters bite mesh wires too? doh.gif
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post Jul 5 2008, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(neshie @ Jul 5 2008, 03:31 PM)
Yeah, better to just get a tank. tongue.gif
would hamsters bite mesh wires too? doh.gif
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Yes, if they can reach. Metal will get rust and plastic one will get big holes.
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QUOTE(YiaNBoY @ Jul 5 2008, 11:50 AM)
no more peace here lo.....
b4 i talk abt hamster..

1. if u saw o knw a husband n wife fight...
wat u do?
they fight in their own house..
is their business rite?
da most we can do is advice rite?
if they dun wan 2 listen we also cant do much rite?
cox is nt our husband o wife...
2. if da oth way round..
u r 1 of the husband o wife..
happen 2 be fighting over something bt none wan report police..
ppl come advice u 2...
bt u choose nt 2 listen...
then when u go out wif ur fren..
will u tell ur own shame story 2 ur fren?
or maybe strangers?

3. same goes 2 hamster..
if the hamster is unlucky enuf 2 get such owner,
then wat can u do?
same like above...
most can do is advice..
ya.. some ppl mught nt knw they cant do tat
if dun wan listen then enuf..
u had done ur part..
is NOT ur pet o property..

4. if happens tat u think u can keep 2 syrian hamster 2gether n choose 2 do so,
quite similar like point no 2...
if u choose 2 fight wif ur husband o wife,
not need go 2 tell oth ppl tat u can do it..
nth 2 be proud of it...

no offence 2 any1 bt hope 2 c peace here...
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Basically, statement 1 and 3 just means that whatever happens, we are not directly connected to the incident and all we can do is advice them. If the person given advice to don wanna listen then there's nothing you can do about it.

Statement 1 and 4 means that you are free to do anything you want and keep many syrians together. But it's the wrong thing to do so don't be proud of it. Don't tell other people you are doing it. Keep it to yourself. And don't tell people wrong things.


Which I quite agree with, the statements. You are free to do what you want but since you know it's wrong to keep syrians together you should not sokong the person no matter what the reason. Remember that there are many first timers who don know anyting and will listen to the advice of someone seemingly more expert. It's the sin of the breeder to give wrong information to sell more syrians but it is also the sin of the person supporting the statement because that just strengthens the wrong statement of the breeder.
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QUOTE(sangels @ Jul 5 2008, 03:32 PM)
Yes, if they can reach. Metal will get rust and plastic one will get big holes.
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then what should i replace those orange metal bars with? Kinda lost now. cry.gif
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QUOTE(Jamien @ Jul 5 2008, 03:36 PM)
Basically, statement 1 and 3 just means that whatever happens, we are not directly connected to the incident and all we can do is advice them. If the person given advice to don wanna listen then there's nothing you can do about it.

Statement 1 and 4 means that you are free to do anything you want and keep many syrians together. But it's the wrong thing to do so don't be proud of it. Don't tell other people you are doing it. Keep it to yourself. And don't tell people wrong things.
Which I quite agree with, the statements. You are free to do what you want but since you know it's wrong to keep syrians together you should not sokong the person no matter what the reason. Remember that there are many first timers who don know anyting and will listen to the advice of someone seemingly more expert. It's the sin of the breeder to give wrong information to sell more syrians but it is also the sin of the person supporting the statement because that just strengthens the wrong statement of the breeder.
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Thanks jamien. wub.gif
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QUOTE(neshie @ Jul 5 2008, 03:38 PM)
then what should i replace those orange metal bars with? Kinda lost now.  cry.gif
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Try replace with acrylic?
Cut a piece of acrylic around the size of window and use aqua sealant to seal it
(Nt sure whether aqua sealant aka silicone is toxic for hammy o nt, bt its nt for fish and tarantula)
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Jul 5 2008, 04:55 PM)
Try replace with acrylic?
Cut a piece of acrylic around the size of window and use aqua sealant to seal it
(Nt sure whether aqua sealant aka silicone is toxic for hammy o nt, bt its nt for fish and tarantula)
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How much does acrylic cost? If expensive i think i'd rather buy a new cage. XD
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post Jul 5 2008, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(neshie @ Jul 5 2008, 05:12 PM)
How much does acrylic cost? If expensive i think i'd rather buy a new cage. XD
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use cage better. acrylic will get scratches easily
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QUOTE(xusnebuer @ Jul 5 2008, 05:14 PM)
use cage better. acrylic will get scratches easily
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ohs. I wanna get a 2ft tank.. drool.gif drool.gif
scared no space. rclxub.gif
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Nt sure hw much it cost though....
Bt u dun need large piece, shld be quite cheap ba
Dun need worry no space la, ur nt living in my room LOL
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QUOTE(RyoKenzaki @ Jul 5 2008, 05:21 PM)
Nt sure hw much it cost though....
Bt u dun need large piece, shld be quite cheap ba
Dun need worry no space la, ur nt living in my room LOL
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hahaha. That sounds abit wrong. happy.gif
Better get new storage bin or 2ft tank lah. Just need to save more money 1st. icon_rolleyes.gif
Thanks for the suggestionssss
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Thanks all abt wheel advice...i will check out more information for getting a right wheel for my robo and still fit in to the habitrail mini smile.gif

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