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Topace111
post Oct 9 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Oct 9 2008, 10:02 PM)
But then they stated that the scholarship is available for application 2 weeks before the Jan Intake?
How can I possibly enroll in January without my SPM result if I didn't receive the scholarship?
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Maybe you can register first & they will rebate you later.
About trial SPM results, actually this is a very subjective area & it depends on your school status as well.
I have received a scholarship by an university do do accountancy & finance in Uk but i duly decline since i cannot afford the food & accomodation.
If you belong to the "30 cluster school" like SAB & VI in KL, maybe they will consider it with more interest.
If not you have to rely on your real SPM cert.
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post Oct 10 2008, 02:46 PM

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For you information, Ray Ng will come back to run the F8 revision class at KSA. According to Andrew Pang, a lot of student study under this guy also can pass F8/2.6 last time.

So, may be any of yours don't want to study under Sheila or Philip Woo, then can consider Ray Ng.
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post Oct 10 2008, 03:26 PM

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Guyz, I've submitted my payment for exam through online by credit card. But I wish to add 1 more subject into this exam, is it possible?
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post Oct 10 2008, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Oct 10 2008, 03:26 PM)
Guyz, I've submitted my payment for exam through online by credit card. But I wish to add 1 more subject into this exam, is it possible?
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I think you still can change b4 15/10/2008. Go to try and see how.
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post Oct 10 2008, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Oct 10 2008, 02:46 PM)
For you information, Ray Ng will come back to run the F8 revision class at KSA. According to Andrew Pang, a lot of student study under this guy also can pass F8/2.6 last time.

So, may be any of yours don't want to study under Sheila or Philip Woo, then can consider Ray Ng.
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Who is him ? Is he famous once ?
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post Oct 10 2008, 06:55 PM

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Anyone attending the November 8 graduations?

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post Oct 10 2008, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Oct 10 2008, 04:35 PM)
I think you still can change b4 15/10/2008. Go to try and see how.
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Change and add subject is different I suppose....
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post Oct 11 2008, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Oct 10 2008, 06:49 PM)
Who is him ? Is he famous once ?
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I'm not sure he is famous or not, but in June 2007 sitting, he run 1 time revision class for 2.6 at KSA. That time, he only limit the student to 50. I heard that most of the student from his class pass this paper in that sitting.

So if any of yours feel Philip Woo F8 class size too big, may be can consider him la.

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post Oct 11 2008, 01:30 AM

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hi, if lets say ill be working and studying part time for final 2 optional papers, which papers would u guys highly recommend?

I like finance, but my audit is the worse among my part 2 papers. And i will absolutely not take P6. The dillemma is P4,5,or 7. which two will best suit for a part time student?

I also heard P4 is very bulky, for a part time student may not able to cope.

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post Oct 11 2008, 11:27 AM

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I disagree. P4 isn't bulky. It's more of an understanding paper, so if you get your concepts right the first time, it'll be easy to build up on it. However, it's recommended you have a logical mind and common sense when dealing with P4, and perhaps some basic experience on how options and currency trading works.

I've done P7, and well, it's comparatively easier, as my lecturer likes to tell me it's a paper you can get away with lying.


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post Oct 11 2008, 07:11 PM

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I have done a considerable survey, chit chat, discussion to come to this summary for optional papers (which i will laso take next sitting) :

1) P4
Lecturer view : Considered the most useful paper since you can apply it in real life, work & personal use (if you want to analyse stock market).
Student view : Most of them "afraid" to take this paper since it has garnered many negative perception from those who failed
Accountant (I knew a finance amnager from PLC) : He said this paper (used to be core) is very useful to help accountants to promotion & very
practical in work life.
My view : Bring it on.

2) P5
Lecturer view : Since this paper has the most lecturer around, but most of them agree that this paper is easier to teach compared to others.
They tend to point to the fact that this paper overlaps many other paper (P3 & F5) so its useful to take together with others.
Student view : Contrary to P4, many people like to take this paper (deemed the easiest) & they syllabus its not that wide.
Accountant : He believes this paper only beneficial if you take on the management job (or management a/c : CIMA). There are many areas will not be practical in work (like forecasting & ABC), he only seen ABC widely used in hospital.
My view : Demotivated. (i'm weak at costing)

3) P6
Lecturer view : No overstatement but i dare you all tax lecturer are the most veteran compared to other papers. All of them insist that tax should be known & practiceable as a whole (they think F6 is too shallow). They agree that P6 requires a strong foundation from F6 (like P2 from F7).
Student view : They are split on this, some like due to its calculation in nature while others hate to memorise too much.
Accountant : There is no doubt that tax is very important whether your comp internalises its tax dept / outsource it. If outsource you can still prepare your F/S accordance with tax law (great synergy together). Comp will ove it if you can cut tax.
My view : Interested (but i heard its a boring paper + with more boring lecturer)

4) P7
Lecturer view : Sadly i have not known any lecturer teaching this paper (has to self study) but there are one in FTMS (Fung Chee Kong : please check). Other lecturer like sheil & phillip drop this paper due to its overly heavy application & nothing much to teach (not knowledge added).
Student view : Why we talk on this you ask (most of you out there HATE audit especially if you failed once b4). However for those who like theory & self study this is a good paper to start. I have a friend who has wroked b4 & claim its very easy to apply work experience for this paper.
Accountant view / auditor's : They agree that audit is not something to be teached but experienced & practiced in real life (every comp internal control & system is different). But too those who want to remain as auditor forever (this may be a bit zealous) its ok to take this paper.
My view : Although i don't hate audit but i found nothing to induce me to take it.

Hope potential optional paper taker will be illuminated. tongue.gif


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post Oct 11 2008, 07:43 PM

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sunway has mr goh teaching p7, but then... since everyone here anti sunway, i guess i shouldn't really say anything.
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I'm relying on Mr Goh for my P7 next semester, since I'm at Sunway. But lecturers tend to discourage us from taking this paper and instead ask us to choose P4,P5 or even P6.
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post Oct 11 2008, 10:18 PM

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anyone know where to collect the acca graduation robe? thanks
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post Oct 11 2008, 10:26 PM

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hi all. want to ask.

usually, malaysian students take f3 international version
or f3 malaysia version?


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QUOTE(jurgita @ Oct 11 2008, 10:26 PM)
hi all. want to ask.

usually, malaysian students take f3 international version
or f3 malaysia version?
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For malaysian, we're taking F3 international smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2008, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Oct 11 2008, 07:43 PM)
sunway has mr goh teaching p7, but then... since everyone here anti sunway, i guess i shouldn't really say anything.
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I am not anti sunway at all but maybe other people feels the fees is rather too espensive & ability to churn out the best out of students (singapore culture).
By the way does P7 audit has a very different approach than F8? I heard that it needs good a/c knowledge to audit certain things.
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post Oct 11 2008, 11:24 PM

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i dont like to study acca at sunway. KSA is good.

but why some n00b come to sunway? duh
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post Oct 11 2008, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(jurgita @ Oct 11 2008, 11:24 PM)
i dont like to study acca at sunway. KSA is good.

but why some n00b come to sunway? duh
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I think we should say like that. Every college also got advantage and disadvantange. For KSA, tuition fees cheap and a lot of good quality lecturer there, but study environment not very good, just like tuition centre. For Sunway, study environment better and got college life, but tuition fees too expensive and less quality lecturer.

So there is no perfect in the world. Just like girl choose husband, either "Rich" or "Handsome", rich always not handsome, handsome always not rich, if rich and handsome, then should be GAY. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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I find such culture particularly apparent in the accounting industry, I wonder why....

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