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carlosandy
post Oct 12 2008, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Oct 11 2008, 07:11 PM)
I have done a considerable survey, chit chat, discussion to come to this summary for optional papers (which i will laso take next sitting) :

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Hope potential optional paper taker will be illuminated.  tongue.gif
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If you ask me, I will more recommend you take P6, cos it is a most value paper in option module. P6 is not boring, you can learn a lot of real life thing in this paper. It is a very good chance for you to learn tax planning cos even next time you work in tax firm, you need to spend few years then only got chance. So why not consider to learn tax planning in P6 now?

I can tell you that P6/3.2 is very difficult paper. There is no much calculation and also no more knowledge base question in P6/3.2, but more application question like "advise" and "tax implication" in P6/3.2. You can find that all the question is very practical. Even if examiner ask you to prepare tax com, but he won't interest to see how you calculate but more interest to know how your understanding of tax com.

You can't do tax planning if you don't understand every step in tax com. That's why a lot of ppl can get very high marks in 2.3, but when come P6/3.2, they can fail so many time.

For other papers, it is depend on what you interest la!

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Oct 12 2008, 12:26 AM
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post Oct 12 2008, 12:24 AM

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Yeah, I agree on that. Doing P6 really is very practical and useful, especially u eventually step into audit or tax lines, where deferred tax can be.. @_@
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post Oct 12 2008, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Oct 11 2008, 11:45 PM)
I think we should say like that. Every college also got advantage and disadvantange. For KSA, tuition fees cheap and a lot of good quality lecturer there, but study environment not very good, just like tuition centre. For Sunway, study environment better and got college life, but tuition fees too expensive and less quality lecturer.

So there is no perfect in the world. Just like girl choose husband, either "Rich" or "Handsome", rich always not handsome, handsome always not rich, if rich and handsome, then should be GAY. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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So you don't recommend Sunway as the college to go for CAT course?
carlosandy
post Oct 12 2008, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Oct 12 2008, 12:35 AM)
So you don't recommend Sunway as the college to go for CAT course?
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As I said b4, it is depend on what you want.

Since CAT is not very difficult, so no need to depend on too much for the qualilty lecturer la. If you want college life, then go to Sunway lo. If you have financial difficult, then choose KSA/Mc Orange lo. Beside this, I don't see any difference for you to study CAT under Sunway or KSA/Mc Orange.

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post Oct 12 2008, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Oct 12 2008, 12:41 AM)
As I said b4, it is depend on what you want.

Since CAT is not very difficult, so no need to depend on too much for the qualilty lecturer la. If you want college life, then go to Sunway lo. If you have financial difficult, then choose KSA/Mc Orange lo.
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post Oct 12 2008, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Oct 12 2008, 12:43 AM)
TARC?
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TARC no CAT la. How to study?
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post Oct 12 2008, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Oct 12 2008, 12:45 AM)
TARC no CAT la. How to study?
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Then where would be the best location for CAT course?
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post Oct 12 2008, 12:52 AM

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i recommend whichever that's most convenient for u.
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post Oct 12 2008, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Oct 12 2008, 12:52 AM)
i recommend whichever that's most convenient for u.
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I want the quality. I don't mind about the location.
carlosandy
post Oct 12 2008, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Oct 12 2008, 12:53 AM)
I want the quality. I don't mind about the location.
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As I told you, CAT not difficult, so no need to consider too much for the lecturer. So if you like college life, go to Sunway. If you have financial difficult, go to KSA/Mc Orange. Understand?

When you study ACCA, then baru consider QUALITY LECTURER la, ok?

There is no perfect in the world.

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post Oct 12 2008, 01:24 AM

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I thnik you can do CAT anywhere you want (its not that difficult yet that when you study wrongly or choose lecturer recklessly you will be penalised heavily = failing the paper).
If you want to do CAT in the best possible place this is where you can go by ranking :
1) Sunway 2) KSA 3) MCO .

When comes to f4 - P7 :
1) KSA 2) MCO 3) Sunway

If you want strictly my opinion the best lecturer (not centre) is KSA (I hate KSA environment very much thank you)
If you want the most comfortable but affordable college is FTMS (but not much good lecturer)
If you don't mind old centre with quite high fees can go to MCO (they claim all their lecturers are vey dedicated)
If you want a small class size can go to PAAC (near KLCC)
If you want the reputation as a "bright" student in front of your relatives can go to sunway.
If you want the cheapest fee in malaysia go to Kolej bandar (it has good locational advantage too)
If you want everything you can take paper per lecturer based (Eg : costing take at KSA, tax take at MCO...etc)
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post Oct 12 2008, 02:31 AM

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Is it Sunway graduate student easier to get a job in E&Y?

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post Oct 12 2008, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Oct 11 2008, 11:27 AM)
I disagree. P4 isn't bulky. It's more of an understanding paper, so if you get your concepts right the first time, it'll be easy to build up on it. However, it's recommended you have a logical mind and common sense when dealing with P4, and perhaps some basic experience on how options and currency trading works.

I've done P7, and well, it's comparatively easier, as my lecturer likes to tell me it's a paper you can get away with lying.
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Ic.. thx for feedback. Im now considering doing P4 + P7. Im confident on Mr.Goh style of teaching, can understand quite well. I think his P7 passing rate above 55% last sem also.

But what do u think of Mr.Michael in P4? I got a few friends advice me dont take P4 at sunway = =. Do u think that Mr.Michael helped u in P4? So far, im comfortable with most of the lecturers in sunway lol, but just find it weird that my friend discouraged me to take P4 there.

QUOTE(allornothing @ Oct 11 2008, 08:53 PM)
I'm relying on Mr Goh for my P7 next semester, since I'm at Sunway. But lecturers tend to discourage us from taking this paper and instead ask us to choose P4,P5 or even P6.
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Is it? o.0 I thought most lecturers discourage us from taking P6. Even Ms.Rozi said that P6 is difficult unless u are really really interested in it.

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post Oct 12 2008, 06:30 PM

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Hi, i til left my final paper which is P5 . Do you think this paper can be study on my own or is recommended to take revision class. Since i already studied in last sitting .
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QUOTE(peipeichua86 @ Oct 12 2008, 06:30 PM)
Hi, i til left my final paper which is P5 . Do you think this paper can be study on my own or is recommended to take revision class. Since i already studied in last sitting .
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It depend on how your lecturer teached last sitting. If he / she lecture based on spotting important topics (Ie: if just came out less emphasise) or those who just teach everything. If its the former you should take extra revision (perhaps with another lecturer)
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post Oct 13 2008, 11:14 PM

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Hello! I am new here, Mind helping me answering my question. Kind People around.

I am planning to take ACCA and need to take from F1 to P3. The reason because my degree didn't support and give reduction of papers. Business management degree.

Now I am planning to study on my own for the F1, F2 & F3. Where I take my exam ? How to register and take my exam? Does kasturi allow me to take examination without attending & paying tuition class fees. Where can I buy this book Subject Accountant in Business, Management Accounting and Financial Accounting. Does MIA library have it?

Thank you!


Added on October 13, 2008, 11:53 pmWhat if I self study? I just need to pay to Kasturi or Wisma Denmark ACCA for examination fees then I can go for exam already.

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post Oct 14 2008, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(tcj13888 @ Oct 13 2008, 11:14 PM)
Hello! I am new here, Mind helping me answering my question. Kind People around.

I am planning to take ACCA and need to take from F1 to P3. The reason because my degree didn't support and give reduction of papers. Business management degree.

Now I am planning to study on my own for the F1, F2 & F3. Where I take my exam ? How to register and take my exam? Does kasturi allow me to take examination without attending & paying tuition class fees. Where can I buy this book Subject Accountant in Business, Management Accounting and Financial Accounting. Does MIA library have it?

Thank you!


Added on October 13, 2008, 11:53 pmWhat if I self study? I just need to pay to Kasturi or Wisma Denmark ACCA for examination fees then I can go for exam already.
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u can take the exam at the ACCA exam centre as provided by ACCA
u hav to register to ACCA as a student 1st
ACCA is actually a very independent body where u hav no obligation to attend any classes to take their exams
ACCA does not belong to kasturi.....kasturi is just a tuition centre for student who need tuition on ACCA subject
so of cos u can take the exam without kasturi
u can buy those book at Mc Orange Institute or any other tuition centre that provide ACCA class
the book are updated annually...so they r printed yearly.....u hav to buy the updated 1....even if MIA library hav it...i think mostly are outdated
Of cos u can self-study...especially for F1 to F3
u pay the exam fees directly to ACCA in UK...n u can go for exam alr
exam r held every June n Dec each year
for more info go to www.accaglobal.com to find out more


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Hi there, i am new here as well... this forum is very useful for me in fact... Actually i would like to know who is the best tutor for paper P!. I saw the recommendation Sheila John n Philip Woo, any idea who should i choose?

I will be taking paper P1 coming december, is there anything that i should take note?
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post Oct 14 2008, 03:15 PM

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Thank you jonwei!
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post Oct 14 2008, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(yemm @ Oct 14 2008, 10:10 AM)
Hi there, i am new here as well... this forum is very useful for me in fact...  Actually i would like to know who is the best tutor for paper P!.  I saw the recommendation Sheila John n Philip Woo, any idea who should i choose?

I will be taking paper P1 coming december, is there anything that i should take note?
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Philip Woo - Very good, detail and understand explainationin for his class . During his class, you will find that very easy to understand for P1 topic. He will give you a mock test to help you to pass this paper. He is commercial ppl also. With his experience in commercial, he will bring a lot og practice knowledge to share with student. School fees cheap.

But some time Philip class size too big until some student feel very difficult to study. His class normally will run 10am - 6pm with 1 hour lunch break, so some student feel very hard to study also under this situation. His study notes also not very good cos more on "Story Base".


Sheila - Sheila explainantion not so detail as per Philip Woo. She is more on memorising method, Normally she will use some "special word" or draw "some picture" to teach student to memorise the key word. Some student like Sheila notes cos very detail, but for me Sheila notes was very complicated. Tuition fees for Sheila also expensive.

Conclusion:

Philip Woo - Understand and tuition fees Cheap, but class size big and long lecturer hours.

Sheila - Good for memorise and detail study notes, but very expensive.

So depend on what you expect from them.



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