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carlosandy
post Apr 1 2009, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(CK90 @ Apr 1 2009, 09:31 PM)
To all Sunway students ONLY, we all should not debate anymore.
Share the good with those interested. Keep our mouth shut for the rest.
Do not waste ur energy and end up to be accussed as Mr Teo's assistants (which is totally a blind accusation without fact or evidence)
Thanks, my concerns for Sunway students
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All the arguement was start from your statement. If you don't simply talk bad thing about other college, then no post war today.

You are the one to hate other college lecturer.
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post Apr 1 2009, 11:07 PM

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Actually this forum meant to recommend lecturers not centres. The original intention is to help those who are studying in KL looking for good lecturers as they all supposed to know there is no perfect centre so "lecturer-based" is introduced. Few years back with sunway is still in early acca introduction stage, there is little choice but to select based on lecturer. Even TAR back then with a large pool of acca student (also platinum) openly criticise their lecturer & choose KL lecturers instead (I think the site is called Tarafa or something if anyone wants reference).

Sunway students have the luxury & capacity to stick with sunway until finish their acca. But remember not everyone can AFFORD it or WILLING or UNRATIONAL enough to spend so much for something they can get EQUALLY GOOD / BETTER with a FRACTION of EXPENSES. From so many sunway students i see in Kl most don't like their uni fee structure at all. Accountant needs to weigh the cost-benefit factor as well.

Like a food analogy my friend tought me. Let say Secret Recipe got an award for tomyam noodle & its the only tomyam noodle you ever taste. So you will defend this point until you have taste something equvalent or better. If anyone claimed the SR noodle is nothing then you will defend it vehemently either due to ignorance or protecting your own image. Compared with someone who is old enough to taste all the tomyam noodles he can find he will open his own blog & recommend you where to find it & the quality is up for you to decide but since it has been tasted by many people, chances is there will be nothing much to criticise. That is how i will conclude the debate in a nutshell.

(I hope I won't live the day to see another forum discussing Individual ACCA lecturers vs UNI ACCA lecturer)
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Let me be his assistant or what, I receive no monetary award, maybe i should ask for it eh?
Mr Teo or his assistant have more things to be bothered about than to reply in forums, their wealth wont change anyway.

For college hoppers, good if your got the transportation and time.
I'm from outstation, I got no transportation and lodging, I got no choice but to stick to Sunway, yet i produce good results, or even better than those who...[ It is to prove that dedication and initiative is more important than supplements. ]

Well. I believe EVERY lecturers are good, whether or not experienced, but those who focus on students passing exams.
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:16 AM

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hi all, im going to further my studies in ACCA, any suggestion which COLLEGE should i enter?
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Blazingkidz @ Apr 2 2009, 01:10 AM)
Let me be his assistant or what, I receive no monetary award, maybe i should ask for it eh?
Mr Teo or his assistant have more things to be bothered about than to reply in forums, their wealth wont change anyway.

For college hoppers, good if your got the transportation and time.
I'm from outstation, I got no transportation and lodging, I got no choice but to stick to Sunway, yet i produce good results, or even better than those who...[ It is to prove that dedication and initiative is more important than supplements. ]

Well. I believe EVERY lecturers are good, whether or not experienced, but those who focus on students passing exams.
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I'm agree on your statement now. Actually we should depend "what we want" to choose college or lecturer". Every lecturer/college also got pro and con. I don't believe got any colleges are perfect including Sunway, KSA or MCO.

If situation like you, of course Sunway may be good choice for you. Situation like me want to follow more experience lecturer, need experience lecturer turn my weakness to strength, of course KSA/MCO is good for me.

We should look at both side means pro & con for every college or lecturer b4 comment anything, but not just promote college or lecturer.

I hope we have no more arguement after this. All the best for your future! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Apr 2 2009, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(tauyik @ Apr 2 2009, 01:16 AM)
hi all, im going to further my studies in ACCA, any suggestion which COLLEGE should i enter?
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Depend on what you want 1st. Low cost? High quality & experience lecturer? Good study environment? Location?

Every college also got pro and con.


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post Apr 2 2009, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Apr 2 2009, 01:27 AM)
Depend on what you want 1st. Low cost? High quality & experience lecturer? Good study environment? Location?

Every college also got pro and con.
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i need a good college that can help me pass my exam with flying colours, any suggestion?
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post Apr 2 2009, 03:32 AM

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CarlosAndy :

2 more months to go. Sigh
Who knows 1 day I step into the Audit firm and you'll say : Hello I'm CarlosAndy welcome to the rat race ... whistling.gif

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post Apr 2 2009, 05:22 AM

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QUOTE(CK90 @ Apr 1 2009, 09:31 PM)
To all Sunway students ONLY, we all should not debate anymore.
Share the good with those interested. Keep our mouth shut for the rest.
Do not waste ur energy and end up to be accussed as Mr Teo's assistants (which is totally a blind accusation without fact or evidence)
Thanks, my concerns for Sunway students
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talking to my fellow coursemates whistling.gif
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post Apr 2 2009, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(Blazingkidz @ Apr 2 2009, 03:32 AM)
CarlosAndy :

2 more months to go. Sigh
Who knows 1 day I step into the Audit firm and you'll say : Hello I'm CarlosAndy welcome to the rat race ... whistling.gif
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Ha Ha, the world is very small. Btw, you still taking exam ? So what paper?



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post Apr 2 2009, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(tauyik @ Apr 2 2009, 02:14 AM)
i need a good college that can help me pass my exam with flying colours, any suggestion?
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Firstly, there is no perfect college. What I can suggest to you:

If you feel that study environment is important and you prefer college/uni life, then you can consider TARC or Sunway. But need to remember, Sunway course fee very expensive, not everybody can tahan.

If you feel that experience lecturer is important and you prefer low tuition fee, then you can consider KL college. Difference from Sunway/TARC, in KL normally student will follow lecturer, but not follow college. For eg, F4 take Viknes in Kolej Bandar, F5 take Andrew Pang in Kasturi. Currently in KL, Kasturi and Mc Orange provide Strong Lecturer Team. You can refer to 1st page for all the recommended lecturer.

But need to remember, both KL college only can provide limiting study environment. Of course, they still provide your a small library, but can't compare with Sunway/TARC

So both college also can help you pass la, depend on what you want, no perfect. Just like the girls choose husband, either Rich or Handsome, if got Rich and Handsome, then he must be Gay.

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post Apr 2 2009, 01:08 PM

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haha,i prefer rich more than handsome~
where is KL college located?
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post Apr 2 2009, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(tauyik @ Apr 2 2009, 01:08 PM)
haha,i prefer rich more than handsome~
where is KL college located?
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KL college normally in town la, all oso nearby LRT station, don't worry.

Mc Orange & SEGI near Muzium Telekom, Kasturi & FTMS near Pasar Seni LRT station, Kolej Bandar is in Jalan Petaling.

You can go to below website to search some info:

Kasturi - http://www.ksacitycampus.com/acca_overview.htm

Kolej Bandar - http://www.calow.biz/

Mc Orange - http://www.oic.edu.my/professional.html#acca

FTMS - http://www.ftmsglobal.com/

Forgot to tell you, unless Dr Choong Kwai Fatt go back to teach P6 in SEGI, otherwise I think you no need to search any info in SEGI currently bcos no more famous lecturer there.

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post Apr 2 2009, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Apr 1 2009, 10:20 PM)
Ban policy? Very funny, Sunway ban policy want to protect their platinum, now you turn the this stupid thing to say they do good for student. Sorry lo, in commercial, nobody will help you without get something.

Hello, young man, do you look another side for Sunway. I ask u to look at pro and con, then only give comment. Just like me, KSA/MCO provide good lecturer team for student, but at the same time, I oso agree they fail to provide good study environment for student.

And I need to tell you oso, I'm part time student for all 14 papers, I don't care about college environment. College environment for me is extra thing only. And please don't simply talk this thing. I know you are from rich family, you never know how difficult part time student study ACCA. And you talk this already show you try to Cari Gaduh now.

After u pass your P level paper, then baru argue with me what is experience lecturer. And since u said Sunway lecturer so perfect, then PLEASE DO NOT COME TO KL COLLEGE FOR TUITION. (But I scare you curi curi go during P level paper)
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Do I need to rephrase myself? I already said, they want student to study on the internal test and hence use the threat of banning them from the real exam.

Apart from that, this time round, my class have people who got even a single digit marks for F5, and my lecturer didn't even submit their name for deferment. The chances of being barred is very slim unless you prove that you have no interest in the subject. Hope I don't have to repeat this for the 3rd time.

I beg to differ when you say I am from a rich family. My family may not be so well off, but we believe that education is important and most of my CAT fee is already covered by the scholarship.

I already told you months ago when you warned me not to come to KL colleges, and I already told you, I wouldn't be going to KL colleges. I believe you are the one in here to cari gaduh, did you even join this forum for the sake of defaming Sunway?

Instead of saying we are Mr Teo personal assistant or whatsoever, now it seems more apparent that you are the one being paid to defame Sunway.
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QUOTE(karhoe @ Apr 2 2009, 07:41 PM)
Do I need to rephrase myself? I already said, they want student to study on the internal test and hence use the threat of banning them from the real exam.

Apart from that, this time round, my class have people who got even a single digit marks for F5, and my lecturer didn't even submit their name for deferment. The chances of being barred is very slim unless you prove that you have no interest in the subject. Hope I don't have to repeat this for the 3rd time.

I beg to differ when you say I am from a rich family. My family may not be so well off, but we believe that education is important and most of my CAT fee is already covered by the scholarship.

I already told you months ago when you warned me not to come to KL colleges, and I already told you, I wouldn't be going to KL colleges. I believe you are the one in here to cari gaduh, did you even join this forum for the sake of defaming Sunway?

Instead of saying we are Mr Teo personal assistant or whatsoever, now it seems more apparent that you are the one being paid to defame Sunway.
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We are stop arguement since yesterday, that's no point continue argue like that.

Hello, please read other ppl post, they no more argue this issue any more.

Now you are the one not happy and come back to burn the fire and Cari Gaduh.

I don't have power to warn you not go to KL college for tuition but just highlight to you, since you said Sunway so perfect, then not come to KL to study for prevent other KL student can't get place, expecially P1 and P3 in Kasturi.

Lastly, NOBODY WILL ARGUE THIS THING ANY MORE. They are now more interest to know our recommendation lecturer for each college. If you still not happy with my statement, then just don't agree and no need to continue argue.

Go back to study la, young man, 2 more month will be your exam. All the best for you. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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halo guys,

anyone knows the following lecturers providing p6 revision classes??
please do state which lecturer and the revision timetable...

1. Mr. Chow Chee Yen
2. Alan Yeoh
3. Low Chin Ann
4. Sunway lecturer (who is going to conduct the IRC? has the confusion solved?)

thank you thank you....

P/S: one more thing, please do not argue on choosing which lecturers anymore...nobody is wrong or correct...an there will be no final answer...
some people can only start to revise under great pressure (then sunway kiasu peer maybe a great motivation/ driving force for them). Some could adapt to lecturers in KSA, McO, FTMS, etc. Different people with different learning styles would prefer different teaching styles. So when recommending lecturers, please do state how d lecturers would be conducting the class. whether the colleges/ lecturers famous or not,its not the upmost important...passing rates not so important..unless u have the same quality of students studying under different quality of lecturers, if not, there is no constant element for comparison.

IN GENERAL, For e.g., sunway could attract more high achievers in SPM than others coz they are famous, class, accomodation provider (could attract outstations students & international students), thus training these bunch of students would not be tough as the students themselves already had good foundation (knowing the way to achieve high score, pushing themselves to the limits). However, this does not mean sunway lecturers are not good. Good, better, best and bestest are subjective. As fair comparison could not be carried out, it is better to recommend lecturers based on learning style, and not passing rate.

i like the example given by Topace on the Tomyam noodle SR...that could best describe the argument going on in the thread.

am i qualified to comment? haha, i think so, been to sunway, KSA and Kolej bandar. ALL got PROS and CONS...

just my RM0.02...no hard feelings...
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QUOTE(Joel718 @ Apr 2 2009, 11:45 PM)
halo guys,

anyone knows the following lecturers providing p6 revision classes??
please do state which lecturer and the revision timetable...

1. Mr. Chow Chee Yen
2. Alan Yeoh
3. Low Chin Ann
4. Sunway lecturer (who is going to conduct the IRC? has the confusion solved?)

thank you thank you....

P/S: one more thing, please do not argue on choosing which lecturers anymore...nobody is wrong or correct...an there will be no final answer...
some people can only start to revise under great pressure (then sunway kiasu peer maybe a great motivation/ driving force for them). Some could adapt to lecturers in KSA, McO, FTMS, etc. Different people with different learning styles would prefer different teaching styles. So when recommending lecturers, please do state how d lecturers would be conducting the class. whether the colleges/ lecturers famous or not,its not the upmost important...passing rates not so important..unless u have the same quality of students studying under different quality of lecturers, if not, there is no constant element for comparison.

IN GENERAL, For e.g., sunway could attract more high achievers in SPM than others coz they are famous, class, accomodation provider (could attract outstations students & international students), thus training these bunch of students would not be tough as the students themselves already had good foundation (knowing the way to achieve high score, pushing themselves to the limits). However, this does not mean sunway lecturers are not good. Good, better, best and bestest are subjective. As fair comparison could not be carried out, it is better to recommend lecturers based on learning style, and not passing rate.

i like the example given by Topace on the Tomyam noodle SR...that could best describe the argument going on in the thread.

am i qualified to comment? haha, i think so, been to sunway, KSA and Kolej bandar. ALL got PROS and CONS...

just my RM0.02...no hard feelings...
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Totally agree with you. Well Done rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

For P6 revision class, I'm not sure about Sunway lecturer, but I don't think Choong Kwai Fatt will got time to run any revision class in May, unless he suddenly change decision (Just like what he do in Feb). But if I'm not mistake, he said will conduct e-IRC. May be we ask Coolly help us to ask him la. If you are interest to joint, then please take note.

For other 3 lecturer, both oso will run revision class. You can go to KSA, Kolej Bandar and MCO website to check time table. If you ask me, then I will more prefer you go Chow Chee Yan or Low Chin Ann la. Ha Ha

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ppl can be really funny when they argue about such ridiculous stuff sleep.gif

on the side note, i have NEVER seen my classmates getting barred. honestly. the fail though tongue.gif

anyone here studying in UK? i need a few pointers
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QUOTE(carlosandy @ Apr 2 2009, 10:45 PM)
We are stop arguement since yesterday, that's no point continue argue like that.

Hello, please read other ppl post, they no more argue this issue any more.

Now you are the one not happy and come back to burn the fire and Cari Gaduh.

I don't have power to warn you not go to KL college for tuition but just highlight to you, since you said Sunway so perfect, then not come to KL to study for prevent other KL student can't get place, expecially P1 and P3 in Kasturi.

Lastly, NOBODY WILL ARGUE THIS THING ANY MORE. They are now more interest to know our recommendation lecturer for each college. If you still not happy with my statement, then just don't agree and no need to continue argue. 

Go back to study la, young man, 2 more month will be your exam. All the best for you. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Sigh, you kept saying that I will curi curi come to KL college for P1 and P3 doh.gif

Well, thanks for the luck. I don't want to argue already.

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