don't worry too much.
t8 seems to be the toughest paper in CAT. However, Sunway has a very good passing rate of T8. 80%++..

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Added on June 28, 2008, 8:01 pmin sunway, its not compulsory to do t8.(it only seems to be like tat). when you register for exam, you can take up t10.
sunway has no control over which ppr ur taking. i assume, there are only 2 intentions for them to encourage ppl to tk t8 :
1. as there are few colleges doing t8, the chances of getting prize ( 100%) will be from sunway.
2. to provide a good foundation for students, prepare them for advanced level as the knowledge for this ppr is almost the same wf f8. (60-70 % same)

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Added on June 28, 2008, 8:07 pmwhen you have your 1st lesson, you may proceed to the TES office there...
just outside the office, there is a notice board. normally the venues wil be stated there.

mine is ACCA-EM-PT right?? ...yaya..you are correct...

The admission said i should come on 5July for orientation....i think you dont need to go for the orientation as you are a part time student, and there is nothing in the orientation that benefits you, except getting to know few full time friends. normally, in the orientation, sunway will be giving brief introduction about their facilities, staff, lecturers, some rules, etc.

This post has been edited by Joel718: Jun 28 2008, 08:07 PM

Pls do not argue on something which you all have no common ground.

As there is no correct answer, it all depends on your own argument.

sunway's p2 passing rate = 71%...many students scored above 60...
zzz...where did u hear that rumour from??
zzz...not reliable source..

coz menon berjaya so spot IFRS 3® which came out as a full question in last sitting.

where as other colleges did not emphasize on this revised standard.

platinum status still in place...and i think sunway will produce quite a lot of prize winners this round.

This post has been edited by Joel718: Feb 21 2009, 01:35 PM

haha:p..

can u compare AirAsia with MAS??

surely no right??

different market target...

different strategies..

but i firmly believe both owners earn almost the same...i mean colleges...

This post has been edited by Joel718: Feb 21 2009, 01:42 PM

zzzz...i personally think that ckf's way of teaching is definitely correct...
yes, i agree most sunway students would definitely do not like his teaching style...
coz hes not spoon feeding...
he is teaching us HOW TO FISH....
d students are used to long notes in sunway...i myself was not used to KSA's style at 1st as i was used to sunway's style of learning...
however as time passes, i think KSA is good...

im currently attending his p6...
CAT til ACCA level 2 from sunway..
core pprs in KSA...
now back to sunway for optionals...n working...

application is what that matters in real life...even if u pass ur exam, but doesnt know how 2 apply, what for??
CKF is teaching his tax planning methods which he sells to clients...
n we are getting it for RM1450 in 6 classes...whereas ppl paying RM1000+ just for one day...

he already stresses that we need to do own reading....whereas he will focus on tax planning...
theory we can learn ourselves...tax planning?? haha...from lecturers' experience...

i duno whether he focuses on d right topic or not...nobody will know until the very exam day...
what if he spotted correctly? then u need to take back ur words...
he may spot d wrong area too...

getting CKF to teach doesnt gurantee a pass....
d most important thing is still our attitude...
instead of wasting time commenting d way he teaches, we should all focus on our studies..

just my 2 cents...no hard feeling to anyone...
help each other to pass,...just as what CKF stresses...we all are acca students, lets finish optionals n graduate..
anyting u feel dissatisfied towards CKF, tell him honestly...
i believe CKF would not mind...
he will do this best to help u pass the paper...

dun comment behind him...as i believe this is unfair to both d students n lecturer...
i went to study under quite a number of good lecturers b4, such as Mr. Low Chin Ann, Dr. Parmindar, Mr. Joe Fang, Ms. Menon, Mr. Andrew Pang....they are not perfect too..having pros and cons...

most importantly, we need to cover the lecturers; weakness...and build on their strengths...
in this case, Dr Ckf is good at tax planning, thus we should be exercising our brains to be like him...
this is what being taught by him now...
use our brains...no matter how d questions twists, we could think of something to write...
this is P level...there is no more correct or wrong answer...
it all depends on how we argue...(quoted from Dr. Parmindar)...

sorry...again just my 2 cents..really no hard feeling, brudder....

GOD BLESS U...gambateh n lets graduate 2geta...



This post has been edited by Joel718: Mar 5 2009, 11:42 PM

he needs to sit for CLP exam soon....macam around june wo...
i also wish he could at least conduct d IRC...

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Added on March 6, 2009, 7:10 pmhaha...yeah..will probably venture into tax for at least 1 year..after collecting sufficient business knowledge tru audit...
a good lecturer doesnt read from the textbook oo...
but try to trigger d students' minds to think for themselves...
yeah...feel so exhausted in class...coz keep on using brain to think...
but d thinking skill is so useful is working life...
im loving it...(quoted from McD)...

This post has been edited by Joel718: Mar 6 2009, 07:12 PM

its quite hard from now onwards....
coz alan lewin is no longer the examiner...
there is another new examiner..
thus, d questions style and answering technique might be different from alan lewin...

based on my experience in f8...
u could tackle some areas 1st...
1. tackle d finalisation of audit (topics such as management letter, representation letter, post reporting audit, audit reports, adjusting and non adjusting events, etc.)
2. tackle audit procedures (those balance sheet audit and income statement audit)
3. ethics (fundamental principles, code of ethics)
4. other areas (financial statements review and audit, audit planning, working papers, fraud and errors, quality control, analytical procedures, audit assertions, audit documentation, etc)

spend some time on reading d above to get a big picture of audit...
then start doing past year....no need to memorise examiners' answers..
use correct terms and develop own method to answer the questions...
if u have a good command of audit assertions, then elaborating ur audit procedures will not be a problem...

i would think that a good command of audit assertions would normally help u pass the exam easily..and even score..
follow chin ann's way of tackling audit procedures questions...
easy audit procedures such as I will agree the date, amount and nature of transactions from GL to supporting documents to ensure accuracy of posting would earn u marks...dun neglect those easy marks...

u just have to be careful that you must complete ur audit procedure...dun let it hang in d air...
must write "audit procedure + assertion"...

just my 2 cents...disclaimer..

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Added on March 10, 2009, 12:46 amms menon in sunway?? p2 or f7??
rm 1430 per paper...

i was under ms menon for f7(int)..and under mr joe fang(KSA) for p2 (int)...
mr joe fang's class costs about 800-900...

ms menon would cover almost everything for financial reporting...sometimes more than what exam requires...
12 hours a week...tiring...

mr joe fang has his own consolidation method..but he seldom focuses on teaching theory..so u may need to read up the accounting standards yourself...but his method in tackling section B (p2) is really good...thus u dun have to worry for section B...coz once ur familliar with his method, tackling question 3 and 4 would not be a problem....but u have to cover the knowledge on accounting standards urself...his way of doing consolidation is unique and fast, thus u must familiarise yourself with the method...and show your WORKINGS clearly...

there are other lecturers teaching financial reporting...mr haneef (McO), Mr Yap (kolej bandar), mr keith (KSA)...i did not study under them..thus, no comments..haha:p..

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Added on March 10, 2009, 12:50 amif f6 is the only paper u left in fundamental level...
then its ok for u to take f6 with "p" papers...

if u have not completed f9...then u must take f9 together with f6 and p2 and p3....
in short, u must attempt all ur "f" papers...and/ before proceeding with "p" papers...


This post has been edited by Joel718: Mar 10 2009, 12:50 AM

hey, sorry for saying something that was not confirmed...
that is what i heard from XXXX..quite reliable...

i did not go and check whether that is true or not..

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Added on March 10, 2009, 7:57 pmyou could either take MYS or INT...
not much difference..difference lies between d names FRS and IAS...

hehe...p2...write write write and continue to write eventhough not sure of the answer...
must write relevant things la..according to standards one...
dun spend too much time on question 1 until u dun have time for section B...
must allocate time properly..finish all ques...then should be alright..

This post has been edited by Joel718: Mar 10 2009, 07:57 PM

halo guys,

anyone knows the following lecturers providing p6 revision classes??
please do state which lecturer and the revision timetable...

1. Mr. Chow Chee Yen
2. Alan Yeoh
3. Low Chin Ann
4. Sunway lecturer (who is going to conduct the IRC? has the confusion solved?)

thank you thank you....

P/S: one more thing, please do not argue on choosing which lecturers anymore...nobody is wrong or correct...an there will be no final answer...
some people can only start to revise under great pressure (then sunway kiasu peer maybe a great motivation/ driving force for them). Some could adapt to lecturers in KSA, McO, FTMS, etc. Different people with different learning styles would prefer different teaching styles. So when recommending lecturers, please do state how d lecturers would be conducting the class. whether the colleges/ lecturers famous or not,its not the upmost important...passing rates not so important..unless u have the same quality of students studying under different quality of lecturers, if not, there is no constant element for comparison.

IN GENERAL, For e.g., sunway could attract more high achievers in SPM than others coz they are famous, class, accomodation provider (could attract outstations students & international students), thus training these bunch of students would not be tough as the students themselves already had good foundation (knowing the way to achieve high score, pushing themselves to the limits). However, this does not mean sunway lecturers are not good. Good, better, best and bestest are subjective. As fair comparison could not be carried out, it is better to recommend lecturers based on learning style, and not passing rate.

i like the example given by Topace on the Tomyam noodle SR...that could best describe the argument going on in the thread.

am i qualified to comment? haha, i think so, been to sunway, KSA and Kolej bandar. ALL got PROS and CONS...

just my RM0.02...no hard feelings...